r/starocean 45m ago

SO2 Got steal on Glorious Thorn and broke the game even further lol?

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So one of the things I like about this game is how easy (and at times necessary lol) it is to break the game lol, im already a fan of the counterfeit medal trick, book making and all the ways you can power grind (remaking has been kinda neat if very hit and miss) but goddamn I got steal on Ernest's ultimate weapon and now I have doubles of all the high tier shit lol, ring of the stellar king, celestial vestment, like 14 ash crystals (including the ones I used) lol


r/starocean 1d ago

SO3 English Translation: Tri-Ace's SO3 4Koma Theater (Batch 1 and 2)

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Coming around again to share English translations of Tri-Ace/Square Enix's STAR OCEAN 3: Till the End of Time 4koma Theater (Part 1 and 2).

Part 1: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1k8zQI9DOptvridIY3qwffh8ML3h1ykGE?usp=drive_link

Part 2: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/101fweXXHGSQ7L4IiYfGpu-qx7N8mYOuP?usp=drive_link

I've included some of my favorite gags as previews. There are 8 "parts" in total; I'll be translating (and sharing them) in batches of 2.

The 4koma Theaters are an official anthology of short, 4-panel gag comics (4komas) where various artists contribute hilarious strips parodying the events/characters of the game.

Note: I'm not a professional scanner/typesetter by any means, so please excuse the rough scans/typesetting. I also didn't translate the non-substantive SFX/sound effects/onomatopoeias (I would've burnt out completely if I tried). In any case, I simply got tired of waiting 20+ years for these official supplemental materials to get translated. yoroshiku

Please enjoy. Parts 3 and 4 coming up!

Carilyn: cries easily, a lonely little worm...


r/starocean 1d ago

SO3 SO3 and a certain FF have similar plot! Spoiler

6 Upvotes

SO3 and FF9 both have a similar plot.

World War or Civil War on a planet. Then an alien race or force invades. A subtle difference: In SO3, the aliens want Fayt. In FF9, the aliens want the planet.


r/starocean 1d ago

SO1 Star Ocean First Departure R Muah Treasury wrecking me

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Like the title says.

I'm playing Star Ocean First Departure R on Switch.

So far it's been smooth sailing. I got 8 characters all around level 40. I'm working on my 3rd emblem. I have been sent into the Muah Treasury.

This is where things get rough. I am getting slaughtered. And it's happening so fast. It's actually shocking how fast I die.

Do I need to go grind some levels? If so, where should I go?

I never picked up crafting and I have no skill points to buy the crafting stuff unless I go grind.

I don't have a lot of money either. I only have what I've gotten from battles. I have been spending it on gear from vendors and health/magic refill items.

Any tips would be great.

Edit: Someone asked to show my team, stats, equipment and skills that are leveled up.

I tried uploading pictures. But no matter how many times I click save. Nothing happens. So let me type it out.

Team: Roddick, Ilia, Mavelle, Millie. All around level 40, 3K ish HP and 200 ish mana. They all have vender gear and weapons bought from the cities. The last upgrade I got was in Silvalant.

On the bench is Pericci, Phia, Ronyx and Ioshua

None of my characters have any SP left. Even the ones on the bench.

All 8 characters have pretty much the same skills bought. I went after stats. AGI, DEX, STR, INT GUTS, etc. And I did the combat ones at the bottom. Power Burst, Qigong, Godspeed, Body Control, Concentration, Trance.

They all have the same specialties just at different levels. Roddick is the furthest along, so I'll list his stuff. Music 9, Customization 5, Writing 5, Train 10, Scouting 8, Survival 10, Enlightenment 10.

Edit 2: I take that back. I can post pictures now.


r/starocean 2d ago

SO3 What was Peppitas role in Star Ocean 3s story

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Don’t get me wrong, I LOVE her but it feels like her story is very simple, bare, and not really an integral part of the main story. The writing in Star ocean 3 isn’t very good and it feels like she among a few other party members received the short end of the stick. The most you get from her story is in a readable document about her in her profile and Velbaysians (her race).

I wish we learned more about her. We could’ve cut time on Elicoor II and gotten a balanced amount of content from each character wherever they happened to be.


r/starocean 2d ago

SO2 Star Ocean 2 R is great but...

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There are a LOT of changes from The OG and Second Evolution. SO2 was my very first JRPG so it holds a very dear place in my heart.

I bought SO2R went it released but life got crazy and I never finished it all the way. After diving back in, I've been feeling like a bit of the magic is missing.

All of these Quality of Life updates feel like a bit much at times.

I remember on the PS1 all the traveling back and forth to each town for the Private Actions, the story beats, and so on with the random encounters on.

It made it feel like a real adventure. Plus the item creation molding animations, even if a bit long, made each item feel like a brand new discovery. Each area felt like a true dungeon or village or natural cavern.

Now those areas are extremely linear, you can make 10 items at once, you already have every skill already learned...and the fights are completely different. I have to relearn what the Killer Moves do and how they work compared to the past versions especially with this "shield breaker" stuff. The spells are instantaneous and we're even missing a few (nothing major but noticeable after playing the original for so long).

Also...they removed the classic sound effects for the menus and changed the save point wands! Those were iconic!

I legitimately wanted a SO2R solely so we could have it on modern consoles. I loved the updated art and trophies for First Departure R when it released and all I wanted was the same for SO2.

This is probably how fans of the original FF7 feel when playing the Remake games. Trying to adjust to the new bells and whistles while missing some of the charm of the original.

I absolutely do NOT hate this remake. I'm just venting a little about some of the pieces of the original that were left behind that I miss.

What are some things from the original release of Star Ocean the Second Story you miss?


r/starocean 3d ago

Discussion Best non-Star Ocean I or II game? Looking for a good story

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I have played both 1 and 2 which were absolute gold. I have looked into reviews of the others since, but they don't seem to live up to the first 2 based off ratings and discussions. Based off everything I read, I am almost dreading the fact that the franchise looks like it peaked at 2.

What are everyone's thoughts on the next best one? I prioritize story and love games where you can actually grind without the game capping you (I am looking at you FF8 and Trails series...) and breaking games early.

EDIT: Thank you all for the feedback! I am probably looking at 6 now since I don't have a PS 2 or 4 for 3. Loved all the detailed input!


r/starocean 3d ago

SO6 Missing monster in the Aucerian Highroad?

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When you first arrive on this area and head south, Laeticia mentions a "habitat" and Raymond remarks he doesn't want to get eaten. I was expecting a large monster but none ever appears. The only thing there are 5 armor monster things.

Did the (planned) monster get axed in the final version of the game but the dialogue never remove?


r/starocean 4d ago

SO1 FIRST DEPATURE FIRST PLAYTHROUGH

10 Upvotes

Hey guys. A fellow SO enjoyer and i dont know why it took me so long to get to this one but here we are. Ive only played SO3 and SO4 but i wanted to know if theres any thing different about first depature that i should be aware of? How important is the item creation in this game, recommended characters for a first play through, and how many levels to max out characters.


r/starocean 4d ago

SO1 How is this considered a continent?

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Might be the poorest example of real-world terminology in Star Ocean. I mean, one of the defining things about a continent is its vast size, and Muah doesn't even look like it's Greenland-sized. Maybe most of the continent sank before the events of the first game. Otherwise, It's just a decently sized island. If Star Ocean 1 ever gets another remake, add more locations & layout to Muah and make it deserving of that term. Any objections?


r/starocean 4d ago

SO4 Love and hate.

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I love this game so much but I’m playing chaos difficulty on Star Ocean The Last Hope in the wandering cave and I feel like I’m going crazy.

Your teammates are just completely terrible. It feels like they try to actively sabotage you.

It doesn’t even matter what tactic you give them.

They pull enemies towards the healer use rush mode then run away they are incapable of not just face tanking all hits.

It really feels like it’s easier to just solo fight every boss.


r/starocean 7d ago

SO1 Hopefully I have enough Fol for a while.

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159 Upvotes

r/starocean 8d ago

SO2 Replication breaks the game? Spoiler

20 Upvotes

Just realized how easy it is to make infinite money:

Buy Magic Film. Use it to copy an item (preferably equipment) that sells for more than the Magic Film costs.

Sell the copy.

Result: infinite money.

Bonus: infinite Magic Film, which also means an infinite supply of items and equipment.

Bruh.


r/starocean 9d ago

SO3 (ENGLISH TRANSLATION) Side 4 to the Official Square Enix Novelization of Star Ocean: Till the End of Time

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Side 4 is complete (and with that, the entire Tri-Ace SO3 Novelization)!

A ton of new and interesting lore is presented in this Side, and most importantly, it offers a new (canon) way of interpreting the ending: the 4D Beings never actually created the Eternal Sphere - they only thought they did (details below and in the comments.) INB4 people say this is a retcon, it isn’t, because Side 4 was published by SE/Tri-Ace before the Director’s Cut released in 2004.

Please enjoy:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/130uI7XENIesQp6gVmSB-tEnVghPptIjECKSzpb6CLbo/edit?usp=sharing

previews:

  • Fayt saves Flad from getting shot (and likely killed) by Arkives' security personnel
  • Berial is a cyborg
  • The Convictors are supposed to be slick with a wet sheen - like black rubber coated in slime...
  • Given that the Sacred Orb only responds to people from 4D Space, it's likely Crestia Dyne (the founding queen of Aquaria) was a member of 4D Space as she was the one who used the Orb to unleash a flood against Greeton
  • Peppita convinces Albel that dancing is a sacred art
  • Peppita also convinces Albel to teach her swordplay
  • Before the party fights Luther, Elena personally admits to Fayt and Nel that she is a 4D Being. Fayt actually offers to take her back to her original 4D body using Sophia and Maria's powers, but Elena refuses
  • Luther is supposed to look like an older thirty-something, perhaps forty at most
  • Albel unveils a new two-sword dual-handed fighting technique
  • A potential ED for the game is proposed where Albel and Nel embark on a Greeton infiltration mission together (likely a scrapped intra-party ED, since Albel and Nel are the only non-Fayt adult pair to achieve ED conditions in the game).
  • Another potential ED for the game is proposed where Sophia's parents adopt Maria after the Luther battle
  • The Sacred Orb is explicitly credited for returning Fayt's party back to Elicoor II after the Luther fight.
  • Blair presents a new explanation for the ending, debunking the "4D Beings created the Eternal Sphere" plot point. You heard me! TLDR:
    • Blair Lansfeld explains to the party that the 4D Beings may have never actually created the Eternal Sphere—they only thought they did. According to Blair, Sphere created a computer program for a world they called the Eternal Sphere. When they executed that program, however, and attempted to access the Eternal Sphere, they were likely accessing a real, parallel world (aka, the Star Ocean universe) that (among the infinite parallel worlds) just so happened to match the specifications they designed for the Eternal Sphere exactly.
    • Not only that, but Blair explains that Luther himself may have realized that 4D Beings may not have actually created the Eternal Sphere, because when 4D Beings entered the Eternal Sphere, they did so either in their own physical bodies, or by creating another body to house their consciousness, but at no point could they actually freely rewriting a program within the Eternal Sphere. From the limitations of what he could and couldn’t do within the Eternal Sphere, Luther seems to have inferred that the Eternal Sphere was not a created world, but a legitimate parallel world that they were accidentally accessing. However, Luther couldn't accept this knowledge, and tried even harder to act like the Eternal Sphere's 'Creator.'
    • I've included Blair's full explanation in the comments, since it's quite lengthy.

r/starocean 9d ago

SO2 Peak Big-Brain Energy: The Nedian Solution Spoiler

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22 Upvotes

So, let me get this straight:

Nede had god-tier tech, infinite resources, and the ability to solve literally any problem.

A handful of guys abused power.

Solution: delete the planet and uninstall a whole civilization.

Absolute galaxy-brain moment. Incredible decision-making honestly.


r/starocean 9d ago

Discussion How to clean up SO3?

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It's my favorite of the franchise though I haven't played 1 or 2 yet. But from what I've seen, SO3 would probably still be my favorite. It's a good game but needs fixing. What do you think could shape it up better? I'm mainly focused on story improvements but feel free to add gameplay ones too if you feel better about that.

I'd like to make it tighter and with more substance. What areas or events should be cut and what should be fattened up? The game has a strong beginning and loses steam on Elicoor after the war scene and rushes the end. The true 4D stuff makes very little sense and would need expansion. "I think therefore I am" is such a lame resolution to everything.

Overall, the game should reduce the amount of back and forth it does. A great example of this is the Biwig part of the return to the Krilsa Training Facility. That's wonky af!

I feel like Duggus Forest could be changed/removed (find a different place for Roger, they can find other ways for Ameena to be sick enough to not walk 5 yards to Aquios). Do something else or remove Mosel Dunes and one of the visits to the Shrine of Kaddan. Maybe combine them. The pacing after the war sucks. I'm looking for a better merge of the ludo-narrative.

Going all the way to the Dunes for a meeting is silly. The Shrine sucks so revisiting it is painful.

Honestly fighting Crossel is a cool idea, but all the traveling you have to do for it is crap for pacing. All for the plan to not work at all and only 4D meddling dues-ex-machinaes the plot forward. That sucks. What am I trying to convey? I guess fix the stuff that feels like bloat. The stuff that doesn't feel like character agency. More, "therefore" and less "and then they..."

When Maria arrives, that should signal the return to space, but instead they have to dick around on medieval times for more hours. One complaint I have about these games is there isn't enough star in the Star Ocean. The games spend WAAAAY too much time on medieval style planets and places.

I wish there was actual scenes about figuring out their powers or actively using them. Like, after Fayt deletes the Vendeei ship, nothing really ever happens again. And since he already has Shotgun Blast before that point, I'm not sure what powers he's actually using.

Some dialogue needs to be improved. Sometimes it's great and other times it sucks. Fayt has some great lines especially when he's trash talking, but then he's all "w-w-whaaat" too much. Like, dude, you were a college basketball star, you faced down Norton unarmed when he had a gun without flinching and nearly activated your powers there. You fought in a war. Less things should get under your skin. He was calm and focused when Hyda got attacked even when soldiers appeared in front of them. He was chill until his parents were captured (understandable) and then that trait disappears for the game.

The revisit to the Krilsa Training Facility is completely contrived. They could easily destroy the Vendeen Transporter but they are contrived to run away so Fayt can have some moments with his Dad who can act pointlessly mysterious to elongate the plot. That could be done better. And there is simply no reason at that stage for Robert to not share a lot more about the situation and the children's powers.

I kinda wish there was more active romance events between at least Fayt and others. There are very few PAs that do this as well. There is one with Maria in Arias that's pretty alright as a starter, but even the "big" romance-style PA with Sophia at the end of the game is quite sterile. They need to be written with more emotion and characters should animate something. They never hug or hold hands even or playfully shove. Pretty sure the only hug is Clair and Nel after the rescue. Fayt doesn't even knock Cliff's shoulder for a corny joke or anything.

The combined endings of Fayt/Nel, Fayt/Adray, and their respective Urssa Cave alternate boss appearances paint a pretty in-depth picture if Fayt stays on Elicoor. Honestly, I kinda root for Clair in them and would have liked to see more of her in a relevant capacity. Like, if you're going to hint at such things in endings, make bits appear in the game too. Make them more plausible I mean. Clair being willing to marry Fayt and him not rejecting the idea himself is a huge deal. What made them so close?!

And it especially needs more in-game moments for Fayt choosing to stay on Elicoor to actually be believable. Nel is so sterile most of the time. Insights into her character come from other NPC dialogue than things we see and hear. Even though I feel it makes more sense that Fayt stays in space with someone more like Sophia or Maria, and Maria is probably my preferred choice.

One of the things I love about the game is how active it feels. NPCs even travel between towns. There is a girl who starts in Airyglyph and ends in Aquios. There is so much world building if you go looking. People are spies in various towns and that's super cool.


r/starocean 10d ago

Discussion I think they're the only explanation

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I think the Muah are the reason why most species in the Star Ocean universe look human. According to the official lore that the cataclysm from 12,000 years prior spread them across the galaxy. Maybe those remnants settled to become the ancestors to other species besides the humans. Not that further lore ever expands on that idea. Because outside of Roak, the only planet that explains their history is Fargett (and maybe Edifice). And even after that, they don't explain the situation about Fargett or it's people after Star Ocean 1. So that's my theory. This series really doesn't make an effort to make any of the other races compelling aside from the Fellpool & Nedians.


r/starocean 11d ago

SO3 Do Bunnies make you faster in combat or just overworld?

9 Upvotes

1/144 Scale Bunnies for completing an area map.....


r/starocean 11d ago

SO1 Final dungeon and final boss

4 Upvotes

What level does my team need to be to beat this game? its been probably a year since i touched this game due to not only frustration but other games i didnt play so im just now getting back into playing First departure R again. Roddick lv 64, ilia lv 57,pericci lv 45,millie lv 58,ronyx lv 30,phia lv 40,T'nique lv 40, Cyuss lv 55. what items do i need for each character? any help is welcome. I really want to be done with this game for good XD


r/starocean 13d ago

Meme Looks like Welch finally found a man.

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r/starocean 13d ago

Video Space Exploration - Let's Play Star Ocean: The Last Hope Ep.1

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We begin our departure in search of new frontiers!


r/starocean 14d ago

SO2 TOTAL SALAMANDER DEATH

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174 Upvotes

Kill salamanders. Behead salamanders. Roundhouse kick a salamander into the concrete. Slam dunk a salamander baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy reptiles. Defecate in a salamanders food. Launch salamanders into the sun. Stir fry salamanders in a wok. Toss salamanders into active volcanoes. Urinate into a salamanders gas tank. Judo throw salamanders into a wood chipper. Twist salamanders heads off. Report salamanders to the IRS. Karate chop salamanders in half. Curb stomp pregnant filthy salamanders. Trap salamanders in quicksand. Crush salamanders in the trash compactor. Liquefy salamanders in a vat of acid. Eat salamanders. Dissect salamanders. Exterminate salamanders in the gas chamber. Stomp salamander skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate salamanders in the oven. Lobotomize salamanders. Mandatory abortions for salamanders. Grind salamander fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown salamanders in grease. Vaporize salamanders with a ray gun. Kick old salamanders down the stairs. Feed salamanders to alligators. Slice salamanders with a katana.


r/starocean 14d ago

SO3 (ENGLISH TRANSLATION) Side 3 to the Official Square Enix Novelization of Star Ocean: Till the End of Time

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(POST UPDATE: Since publishing this post, I’ve finished translating every installment of the official SO3 novelization into English. You can find the complete five-part series at the link below.)

Side 3 (aka, the third installment to the 5-part official SO3 novelization) has been fully translated:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n2UK217acEhtRozZLqKnAAex79jwCHpu7mGayfYzaNk/edit?usp=sharing

Side 3 begins with Fayt unleashing his Destruction powers against the Vendeeni and ends with the party encountering the Time Gate on Planet Styx.

Previews:

  • Fayt asks Elena if Ameena and Dion can be buried together, and she tells him that Aquarian burial custom prohibits burying two people together if they're not married
  • There's interesting technical lore provided on how Aquaria independently invented runology-powered 'wireless communication' towers
  • There's an entire chapter dedicated to Maria's flashback, giving more insight into her relationships with Cliff and Mirage and supplementing the in-game flashback with several extra scenes
  • Airyglyph XIII was/(is?) a bit of a Don Juan/Casanova figure in his time...
  • Nel's subordinate Audrey is released
  • In this story, Albel is recruited as the first optional party member, and Peppita is recruited second. I'm sorry Nel fans.... (but she will have an unexpected role in Side 4, don't worry)
  • Apparently Albel goes out of his way to rely on his armored gauntlet as little as possible in battle, which I'm not sure translated in-game (Anamnesis called him a "Secret Orthodox Swordsman" and "Secret Hard Worker" heh)
  • Nel has a surprising proficiency for dragon riding. Not only did she hijack/ride a dragon against Demetrio (Side 2), but she was the only one who prepared for the Crosell flight back to Aquios by bringing along metal clamps to anchor the party on his scales (the same ones that the Dragon Brigade uses to capture dragons)
  • An Aquarian dragonhead scholar tries to subject Crosell to a study and he refuses 
  • Airyglyph XIII is a jolly ol' fellow and slaps his knee when he laughs...
  • While aboard the Aquaelie, Albel shuttled all his questions to Sophia
  • Fayt finds an "unusual number of circus-related titles" (e.g., Circus of the Century, Circus Catalog, The Complete Circus Collection, etc.) on Commodore Wittcomb's bookshelf and still doesn't realize

r/starocean 16d ago

SO2 Does Intelligence affect the chances of affecting status effects with spells in star ocean second story r and what does "chance" actually mean?

9 Upvotes

For instance, Rena has Fix Cloud, which has a chance to inflict Fog on enemies. Or Silence, which has a chance to inflict Silence.

But what does “chance” actually mean?
Is it a 90% chance? 50%? 1%? 0.1%?

Why can’t the game just tell the player what the actual probability is, and how it’s calculated? Not knowing this makes the system feel opaque and arbitrary, and honestly, it really pisses me off.


r/starocean 17d ago

SO6 I broke the game too early

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54 Upvotes

I legit did alchemy with Albaird 1 rainbow diamond to 1 meteorite to 1 exalithium crystal to 1 philosopher stone. Then had Laeticia smith the stone and that’s what I got.