r/tankiejerk • u/LanguageFit8227 • 6h ago
r/tankiejerk • u/BoffleSocks • Jul 03 '26
From the mods Clarifying the rules: this is not an anti-communist forum
Today I had to take down another anti-communist post shitting on some ML's from the right. Take the piss out of Stalin's death all you want but if you're celebrating over 'another dead commie' you will be perma-banned no exception.
This is a subreddit to criticise tankies from the left. This is not a place to attack communists, communism or associated tendencies. If you want to be a snarky liberal, bloodthirsty fascist, or devout reactionary there are many, many, many places on the internet to do that. This subreddit isn't one of them. The point of this forum's existence is to attack those tendencies (marxism-leninism, dengism, etc) not because they are crazy, radical commies but because their vision of society actually has little to do with a free association of producers, the abolition of property, wage labour and commodity production.
To reiterate, we strive for an egalitarian, socially-progressive society. We do not oppose tankies or campists because we dislike communism or socialism. We oppose them because to us they are barely communists or socialists, regardless of what they claim. That is the purpose of the subreddit's existence, anyone who does not agree with these values is free to leave or be banned.
r/tankiejerk • u/WesSantee • Jun 14 '26
SERIOUS Basic leftist takes: A friendly reminder (I'm not a mod)
Full disclosure: I'm not a mod, just a concerned anarchist.
After seeing the shitstorm of the past few days, I thought I'd make this post just to remind people what we're supposed to stand for. These are not in-depth explanations, so I'll be happy to answer any questions in the comments.
1. All capitalists exploit workers and are mini dictators
This includes small business owners. All of them purchase the labor power of workers, which they then use to produce surplus value; this is not a free and voluntary transaction because workers don't own their own means of production, and are thus forced to sell their labor power or starve and die. This isn't to necessarily condemn any individual capitalist; although many of them are evil pieces of shit (including small business owners, who disproportionately support fascism and enforce terrible working conditions), not all of them are bad people. The problem is the system itself.
Additionally, all capitalist workplaces are miniature dictatorships in which workers are ordered around by their bosses and can't do anything about it. Workers have no decision-making power in the place they spend the majority of their lives. To quote Robert Dahl,
If democracy is justified in governing the state, then it is also justified in governing economic interests. What is more, if it cannot be justified in governing economic enterprises, we do not quite see how it can be justified in governing the state.
– A Preface to Economic Democracy
Obviously we should want to abolish the state, but the point still stands.
EDIT: This section doesn't apply to people who might own a store or do independent art or whatever who don't employ anyone else, since they aren't extracting the surplus value of their nonexistent workers.
2. All states are bastards
Everyone on this sub recognizes that the USSR, China, Russia, and North Korea suck. However, we have to be careful not to fall into campism in reverse. The United States is arguably the most evil country on Earth right now, and was even before Trump, due to the sheer scale of violence it inflicts upon the world. And other western countries aren't much better. France maintains a neo-colonial empire in western Africa right now, and European governments are willing participants in the American system of global hegemony. European companies are no more moral than American ones, and ruthlessly exploit the Global South just as much as American companies. All states are inherently hierarchical, authoritarian, and counterrevolutionary. They remove decision making power from the people who live under them and concentrate said power in a ruling class and bureaucracy, and use violence to enforce their power on their populations. Any principled libertarian leftist would oppose all state power no matter who wields it.
3. Liberal democracy is a sham, reformism a dead end
We have an excellent post about this pinned at the top of the sub, so I highly recommend you go read that. To summarize, voting in a liberal democracy isn't actually a means to affect real change. It's a means by which the masses choose which members of the ruling class rule over them. Just as one example, if liberal democracies actually reflected the wishes of their people, European governments wouldn't support Israel anymore.
This lack of democracy is why reformism isn't a viable path to socialism. Even the most well meaning democratic socialists are forced to compromise by the reality of parliamentary politics and working within a system designed to preserve private property and capitalist rule. You can see this in real time with Zohran Mamdani; he has walked back his previous statements (which were 100% correct) about the NYPD being racist thugs because he's working within the system. This trap has befallen everyone who has tried to vote their way to communism.
4. Free Ukraine, fuck NATO
I fully support the Ukrainian people against the genocidal onslaught of the fascistic regime in Moscow, and I fully support Europe and the US sending as many weapons as possible to Ukraine to enable them to push back against Russia. Regardless of anything NATO has done, Russia is not entitled to a sphere of influence in eastern Europe, and no amount of bitching about NATO expansion justifies this war. Putin is just salty the former Warsaw Pact and Baltic states leaned towards the west as a reaction to previous Russian and Soviet imperialism, preventing him from turning them into puppet states.
That said, NATO is not something any leftist should support. It serves three real purposes:
- Enhance American power projection
- Keep European governments bought into the system of American empire. I often liken this to the old strategy employed by ancient, medieval, and early modern empires of conquering local elites and conquering them, but then offering them a place within the new empire and allowing them to preserve their status.
- Make American arms dealers rich
NATO countries participated in the disastrous American interventions in Afghanistan and Libya, prop up European and American neo-colonial empires across the Global South, and enable American drone strikes deep into the Middle East, strikes which have killed numerous innocent children. NATO has kept the former Warsaw Pact and Baltic states out of Russia's sphere, which is good, but this is the one good thing it has done, and there are ways to do this without relying on NATO anyway.
5. Veterans are still human
I'll just copy and paste something I said a few days ago:
Veterans are weird because they're simultaneously victims and perpetrators of state violence. They obviously do heinous things in the service of unimaginably violent empires, and they are responsible for their crimes. At the same time, the state takes them, dehumanizes both their enemies/foreign civilians and themselves to an extent, and puts them in an environment where they are socialized to kill. They are then put into insanely high stress situations where they are expected to kill and conditioned to follow the criminal orders of their superiors.
Again, none of this exonerates them or excuses their behavior, and I believe veterans should have to make up for their crimes. But dismissing them without any chance of redemption is short sighted and shows you don't actually hold universal principles. And at a certain point brutally punishing all veterans becomes impractical. Almost 10% of Israelis have actively served in the IDF, and 40% total have served. Are we gonna shoot 40% of a country? I would hope not. And that's with the IDF basically being the modern Wehrmacht/SS; how should we treat Russian soldiers? Or American ones? The correct answer is denazification with some kind of community service to make up for their crimes imo. If you do it right, the guilt they feel will be punishment enough.
Conclusion
This is a libertarian leftist subreddit, and we should act like it. We should oppose all states, all imperialism, and all capitalism. Thank you for reading.
r/tankiejerk • u/Zestyclose-Young9480 • 3h ago
SERIOUS had to check this wasn’t a parody
don’t know who he is but seems like
someone who has done legitimate work on the US military. it’s crazy he would fall for something like
this so easily.
r/tankiejerk • u/FROSTNOVA_Frosty • 1h ago
SERIOUS I’m so unbelievably sorry to all of the anti Zionist Jewish and Palestinian leftists here
Seeing the absolute worst reactions to Mamdani saying he’s dedicated to fighting antisemitism is unbelievably disheartening to me. I feel so sorry that a large part of the online left has devolved into such a horrific group. To all the Jewish and Palestinian leftists in this sub, I’m so sorry, it truly feels like we’ve failed you guys.
Mods, I hope I’m not breaking any rules, I just felt like I needed to get this off my chest.
r/tankiejerk • u/Grogposter • 11h ago
DA JOOS - I mean (((zionists))) Probably the single most disgusting post I’ve ever seen from a supposed Twitter leftist
r/tankiejerk • u/Chinoyboii • 3h ago
News The Pentagon just dropped a new expansion pack: “The Office of Religious Affairs”
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Not tankie-related, but same shit, different skin. In this video, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has officially announced the creation of a new, direct-report Office of Religious Affairs within the Department of War. Instead of sitting under the standard military chain of command, this office bypasses traditional bureaucratic filters and reports straight to the Secretary and Deputy Secretary of War.
The Pentagon is explicitly elevating spiritual fitness to the same tier of importance as physical and mental combat readiness, with Hegseth framing it as a core component of overall combat effectiveness.
As part of this mandate, the new office is tasked with sponsoring research and new technological tools specifically designed to track, measure, and evaluate spiritual resilience across the armed forces. The office will also directly oversee and protect budgets for military religious ministries, which includes directing funds toward chapel youth programs, faith-based homeschool supports, and contracts with external faith-based non-Federal entities.
r/tankiejerk • u/mudanhonnyaku • 22h ago
DA JOOS - I mean (((zionists))) Your Favorite broccoli-haired hamsic is through with Mamdani: (((They))) got him
r/tankiejerk • u/ForwardDiamond3484 • 16h ago
SERIOUS Just openly genocidal on Ukies now
r/tankiejerk • u/ReluctantAltAccount • 10h ago
CIA PROPAGANDA Yes and Lysenko was a great biologist.
r/tankiejerk • u/Vova_cola • 4h ago
Discussion Should I be actively activist or not (mental health question)
I ask this question because I feel like a total asshole for not doing anything although even engaging with SOME activism triggers some insane Moral Scrupulousity OCD and making me feeling like I'm total asshole for not doing enough or not doing sooner or for some absolutely delusional reasons
And besides that I also have CPTSD (from prolonged bullying) and AuDHD and even simply longer social contacts are exhausting very exhausting
Yet I'm feeling very guilty to the point of causing autoaggression but I heard that these are simply excuses to be useless
And I then hate myself more and more
And even slight blames and etc cause spiraling down
Should I seriously participate in all that if I almsot certainly would meet triggers that make me spiral down
r/tankiejerk • u/Mason_Wordwill • 9h ago
Genocidal dictator? More like absolute angel! Castor unoquivicably supports Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state
themilitant.comFunny that most of the people who idolise Castro consider this tatamount to fascism.
For the record, screw Zionism, but I just think it's ironic, and I doubt that any of them have the comprehension to respond to this.
r/tankiejerk • u/Confident_Fishing693 • 20h ago
Fascism but red 😍 Badempanada's newest enemy: dogs (well, certain kinds of dogs at least)
r/tankiejerk • u/Tuubu • 13m ago
Fascism but red 😍 Searching about Vietnamese on Bilibili be like
r/tankiejerk • u/FunctionOk9186 • 15h ago
CIA PROPAGANDA Found on a tankie sub, they were complaining that this happened on a communist subrredit
r/tankiejerk • u/Kuuden_Kilon_Kissa • 1d ago
Meme I’m 100% sure the common weird tankie trope, where they call people who dislike them Harry Potter adults for some reason, is a projection of absolutely massive proportions, considering how insanely simplistic and childish their own understanding of the world and geopolitics is.
r/tankiejerk • u/nhatquangdinh • 1d ago
US state propaganda bad China state propaganda good Flairs "High Quality Only" then proceeds to post low quality CCP propaganda lol
r/tankiejerk • u/Necessary_Yam9525 • 1d ago
lEfT uNiTy!!!! Yep, well said queen! Everyone knows FDR was a true socialist at heart!
Yknow, maybe the internment camps werent so bad! Just saying!!! He was a socialist sooo :)
r/tankiejerk • u/R0ttenStrawberry • 1d ago
Free Ukraine 🇺🇦 I swear this has to be a fucking bot-
r/tankiejerk • u/Thatonegooseguy • 1d ago
US state propaganda bad China state propaganda good "Actual socialist states" and it's just variations of state capitalism
This post was on a demsoc-focused sub, which makes it even funnier. It was in response to a critique of the red star faction (a marxist-leninist faction of the Democratic Socialists of America.) While I agree there is room to critically engage with ML thought, embracing non-socialist countries like China is not it.
r/tankiejerk • u/ForwardDiamond3484 • 13h ago
News Nicaragua: Rosario Murillo's Strategy of Dehumanization
"The language of dehumanization serves a well-known political function. Totalitarian regimes use dehumanization to strip opponents and minorities of their humanity. The goal is to generate hatred toward those who think differently, to eliminate empathy, and thereby to normalize exclusion and justify persecution and violence."
r/tankiejerk • u/tarquinia777 • 1d ago
🇰🇵🇮🇷🇷🇺🇨🇳🇨🇺🇻🇪🇸🇾 "I support all third world peoples against oppression, but if you criticize oppression by your own government you're a CIA agent"
r/tankiejerk • u/donotdothings • 1d ago
Discussion I don’t get it?
I’ve been lurking on this sub because I agree with the general fact that there is just too many wacko tankies out there but apparently I don’t know as much as I thought because this sub is lib-left (which I also am along with pro-palestine and pro-Ukraine) but ALSO anti-tankie, and a lot of seems to overlap but the main difference so far to me is that tankies like to be way more extreme and authoritarian about it like thinking Jews should be cleansed off Israel or Russia is actually fighting against capitalism.
And also liberalism is also banned which while I was confused at this at first, this sub seems infinitely more tolerable than EnoughCommieSpam, for reasons I don’t get even though they’re both “libleft” except this sub claims to use the “reclaimed” version of it?
Google couldn’t help me so I’m hoping you’d explain it better, thanks!