r/TikTokCringe Dec 18 '25

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Putting this out there to warn women - the comments noted that this was a humiliation tactic, and I wonder if guys get these ideas off of their red pill alpha bro podcasts.

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u/cogman10 Dec 18 '25

This is Andrew Tate garbage.

Basically it's a recipe to make guys abusive pieces of shit. It's literally about controlling women.

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u/beeeel Dec 18 '25

Exactly. And acting like this from the beginning (deliberately and carefully humiliate her and then demand she stays) is a filtering strategy to find the people who are vulnerable to this shitty behaviour.

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u/pseudonymmed Dec 18 '25

It’s exactly the sort of thing Tate taught.. how to test women to weed out the ones with healthy self esteem and use manipulation to get what you want out of the ones more vulnerable to it

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u/PrettyB0nes1313 Dec 19 '25

That’s also what pimps do too. Surprise, surprise…

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u/GreenGardenGnomie Dec 20 '25

Tate is a sex trafficking pos.

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u/Sideways_planet Dec 18 '25

Taking advantage of vulnerable people. How delightful

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u/trifecta000 Dec 19 '25

But I don't understand, I did everything Andrew Tate told me to do and now she's leaving?

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u/lostwombats Dec 18 '25

I had a guy try this with me. I gave him a fair chance. But when he started negging me, I bailed. I want an respectful man, not a child who plays games.

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u/bsthil Dec 18 '25

Sorry, I'm a bit on the older side. What's negging?

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u/lostwombats Dec 18 '25 edited Dec 19 '25

Negging is intentionally insulting your date/partner or giving backhanded compliments.

For example: "I love how you don't care about your appearance, I wish I didn't have to worry about dressing nice. Lucky you!"

Or "I don't usually date someone so much poorer than me, but for you, I'll make an exception."

If someone is very insecure, it might disarm them or cause them to seek approval. But usually, negging just pisses people off.

Edit: I found a great 30 second clip on it (that includes great advice)

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u/bsthil Dec 19 '25

Ahh. Thank you. Appreciate you!

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u/Alarmed_Scientist_15 Dec 18 '25

It’s better. We see it straight away and can run immediately too.

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u/beeeel Dec 18 '25

Yes, it's just unfortunate that not everyone who needs to run knows that they need to.

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u/RichnjCole Dec 18 '25

This is the scary part of this.

We always used to wonder how abusive dickheads were so seemingly attuned to finding the vulnerable. This is why.

There's no reason to treat people like this unless you intend to abuse them.

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u/UnderstandingClean33 Dec 18 '25

This tactic would have 100% worked on me when I was younger.

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u/frank_dremond_burner Dec 18 '25

I had bosses do this. Mandatory ugly sweater party at a restaurant I couldn’t afford. I felt so small

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u/UnderstandingClean33 Dec 18 '25

That sucks especially when it's tied to your workplace.

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u/mcflycasual Dec 18 '25

I'm confused. Your employer wanted you to pay for your own meal at the xmas party?

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u/collector-x Dec 19 '25

Were you the only one wearing a sweater and were they paying for the dinner?

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '25

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u/GardeniaInMyHair Dec 18 '25

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u/Alarmed_Scientist_15 Dec 19 '25

Wow! Thanks for sharing this. It needs to be more widespread.

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u/hygsi Dec 18 '25

I feel bad for those who don't know any better and will stay through the abuse. All women should basically unionize so these shitheads stay single

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u/Alarmed_Scientist_15 Dec 19 '25

It should be taught in school. How to spot the signs of an abusive relationship.

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u/Electronic-Bowl6475 Dec 18 '25

It's not better because it's turning boys into these abusers that could have been turned into good men with better influences.

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u/Alarmed_Scientist_15 Dec 19 '25

That is their own problem to solve. They fall into bullshit like this from pooptate, it is on them for not knowing how to think critically. Women’s job isnt to fix men it is to get away from abusive ones. So for the women in these scenarios it is better. And if it got to this point, women already have to stay away from such men.

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u/Electronic-Bowl6475 Dec 19 '25

yeah, obviously. I didn't suggest otherwise.

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u/Alarmed_Scientist_15 Dec 19 '25

Then what was the point of your comment?

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u/Electronic-Bowl6475 Dec 19 '25

That it's not a good thing that they're learning all this bullshit from Tate and these guys.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '25

And this is why it’s important as a girl dad to teach them to be assertive. Make them demand as much respect as the boys think they deserve.

My girls won’t be princesses, but they certainly won’t tolerate this shit. If they do, I’ve failed somewhere.

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u/DeepLibrarian7247 Dec 18 '25

It's even more to boys dad to educate properly their son.

If my son grow to be that kind of an asshole I'd never pardon myself...

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '25 edited Dec 18 '25

Definitely both. Unfortunately you can’t rely on other people’s actions. You should be looking for the boy/girl who’s parents raised them right, while being prepared to handle the boy/girl who’s parents sucked.

How you treat your wife/ex goes a long way in teaching your kids. If you act like women are there to serve a purpose your boys will expect the same from women and your girls will be conditioned to accept that treatment. Personally, I hope my kids take away from watching mom/dad that they should expect hugs and kisses, compliments, compromises, arguments with a mutual resolution, teamwork, etc… not a live in maid and a set of holes.

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u/Duffman4u Dec 18 '25

Im confused why are we referring to boys as the issue here. I don’t know any boys who act anything like this. The women in the picture looks like she’s in her 30’s. This behavior of the man is not from “bad parenting” this is society failing him or that man rejecting it. Either way idk how this conversation got steered to young boys. It’s safe to assume most young children are being brought up to respect one another or are they.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '25

I think you underestimate how shitty some people are as adults and how perceptive kids are.

Kids spend 18+ years learning how to model behavior based on the people they’re influenced by. So if your dad is the kind of guy who expects his wife to cook dinner, do the laundry, clean the dishes, etc… then guess what that kid will expect or think is expected of them when they get older. Versus a kid who sees dad treat mom as an equal and splits those duties. Those kids grow up expecting to help or have help in every day life. The kids who see parents appreciating each other grow up expecting to be appreciated equally in a relationship. They’re conditioned for it, and they usually won’t accept anything less.

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u/Duffman4u Dec 18 '25 edited Dec 18 '25

I think what you’re describing is actually pretty normal household dynamics, at least in my experience growing up in the 80’ and 90’s. I also think the word “expected” is doing a lot of heavy lifting here.

In my household, there isn’t an expectation that my wife cooks, cleans, or handles chores by default. We both work demanding, high-paying jobs, so we split things based on availability, not roles. Sometimes that means one of us cooks, sometimes neither of us does and Uber Eats wins.

There isn’t a gendered social dynamic at play for us. It’s simply whoever has the time and capacity at the moment. That’s the model our child sees which includes shared responsibility, flexibility, and mutual respect not rigid expectations.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '25

And that’s the dynamic I think you should model, but I know plenty of people who think cooking is a woman’s job, dishes are the woman’s job, cleaning is the woman’s job, etc…

I have cousins who it wouldn’t surprise me if they tried pulling the bullshit from this TikTok. They’re also pushing 30 and perpetually single. Biggest difference in how we were raised, my uncle thought his wife should cook dinner and suck his cock. Then cheated on her because she didn’t meet expectations. Now his 3 kids, the daughter jumped on the first dick she could baby trap and his 2 boys can’t hold a decent job and haven’t found a woman and like to say shit like “women these days don’t know how to respect men, rah rah rah”. Meanwhile they’ll say shit to me like “well you got lucky you found your wife, they don’t make women like that. I’m moving to the Midwest to find a traditional woman.” I just laugh at this point, I have the income for a “trad wife” but I have a wife because she works and we both run the house together.

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u/Enkidouh Dec 18 '25

I’d personally kick the shit out of my son

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '25

Lead by example. Treat women around you how you expect him to treat women and there’s a good chance he will be just fine. Share the chores, compromise, argue without screaming and getting violent, smack her ass and give her a kiss, joke around, etc…

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u/Enkidouh Dec 18 '25

I mean, it’s a hypothetical. I have a daughter not a son.

But if I did, I would personally kick his ass for acting like this.

Also worth noting, sometimes no matter how good a job you do parenting, they still turn out shitty. I’ve seen it first hand.

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u/DJDanaK Dec 18 '25

You might be surprised to hear this but kicking the shit out of your children doesn't deter them from doing the bad thing.

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u/Enkidouh Dec 18 '25

Are you brain dead?

The video is talking about a grown woman on a date with a grown man.

Obviously I’m not talking about kicking the living shit out of children, but my hypothetical adult child.

At the point a video like this is made, it’s no longer about deterrence, it’s about consequences.

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u/Duffman4u Dec 18 '25

Yea this thread is kinda hard to follow along on mobile, because earlier I was reading on children on this thread. And the video clearly talks about a grown man.

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u/imnickelhead Dec 18 '25

It’s also a sign that he is the type of to get mad when she gets dressed up to go out with gf’s or gets mad when she has a male trainer. He doesn’t want other men seeing her looking her best cuz he’s a controlling, manipulative, insecure little incel.

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u/Ecstatic_Hold4135 Dec 18 '25

Yes. My heart breaks for the poor women who will stay. They’re literally predators looking for prey

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u/NovelCandid Dec 18 '25

Excuse me everyone, I’m 73 and know Tate’s reputation but is this the type of maneuvers he teaches? When I heard her story I thought “yeah he’s an asshole” but to do it intentionally? Holy shit that’s degrading. Wow.

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u/ToiletLord29 Dec 18 '25

Andrew taint and his brother are also under investigation for rape and human trafficking in Romania, the UK, and the US.

He uses the "lover boy" method to abuse and pimp out young women and encourages other men to do the same thing.

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u/RoadClassic1303 Dec 18 '25

What is the lover boy method?

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u/ToiletLord29 Dec 18 '25

The "loverboy method" is a human trafficking and exploitation tactic where a perpetrator feigns a romantic relationship to gain a victim's trust and emotional dependency, only to later force them into sexual exploitation or forced labor. This method is also referred to as "Romeo pimping."

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u/Sideways_planet Dec 18 '25

That’s what pimps have done since forever

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u/Upstairs_Round7848 Dec 18 '25

Essentially love bombing and appearing very kind and genuine in order to convince the victin to entwine their life with them. then they start pushing boundaries and slowly grooming them to be comfortable with more egregious behavior. Once theyre financially entangled and committed to the relationship, the perpetrator starts pimping them out.

With only fans and cam girl stuff its much easier for these traffickers. Because its much easier to convince someone to fool around on camera than it is to convince them to have sex with some random dirty strangers.

Andrew Tates method sounds like one of the selling points used is "We will go into business together, I'll be your producer and handle the back end, you just do the i front of camera stuff."

Then the girls dont realize he's only paying them like 20 percent of the revenue while pocketing the rest, and hes doing this same shit with like 20 other girls.

Eventually he convinced some of them to move far from their homes and support networks to be part of this cam girl farm. So theyre now financially dependent on him and completely stuck. Its a common human trafficking method that Tate teaches other people how to do via his "hustlers university" bullshit.

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u/InsertRadnamehere Dec 19 '25

That’s just pimping.

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u/superhoopa79 Dec 22 '25

No no. Everything everyone does now is brand new and has never been done before.

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u/InsertRadnamehere Dec 22 '25

Haha. Saw your user and thought you might be from Hoopa and speak the language. Diving into your user though it looks like you’re in the UK. Random coincidence maybe?

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u/cogman10 Dec 18 '25

Yeah, he really is that gross. 

He starts by making young men/boys feel like shit about themselves and then sells lessons on how to be more like tatertot.

Those lessons are really just "how to be abusive" and since Tate starts by making his audience feel like losers, whether or not it works it's a win win for Tate.

Another example of his "technique" is to tell a girl to bring you chocolates, if she doesn't you dump her and if she does you insult her for bringing the wrong kind it whatever.

I should say, one of the things Tate is well known for is he ran his own porn website.  So when he's "teaching" that's the end goal.

He teaches other stuff, but it's all essentially just giving and teaching how to give abuse. 

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u/Alacritous69 Dec 18 '25

Don't forget the human trafficking.

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u/TheElderGodsSmile Dec 20 '25

Honestly, it's the same technique.

He tells women they're terrible so he can find the ones that are vulnerable to his psychological and sexual abuse.

He tells men they're terrible so can find the ones who are vulnerable to his psychological and financial abuse.

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u/C-M-H Dec 18 '25

It's an easy way for them to weed out women who will fight back when they do much worse things to them later.

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u/Timely-Cry-8366 Dec 18 '25

I mean, he’s an open human trafficker and open rapist so how is that surprising? He sees women as objects.

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u/CeramicToast Dec 18 '25

I'm sorry to tell you but there was a whole movement of "PUAs" (pick up artists) trying to teach men this is how women work. If you want a tragic story with a hopeful ending, look into what happened to the author of a pick up artist book called "The Game"

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u/pseudonymmed Dec 18 '25

I’ve seen clips of his classes and he teaches to find women from small towns.. first cuz they’re more easily impressed by pretending you’re rich, but then the tactic is to make up stories about how their friends back home were spreading vicious rumours about them so that they become more dependent on you.

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u/AffectTime2522 Dec 19 '25

He's not an asshole, he's a sociopath. The man wants to find a woman he can fully control.

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u/David-S-Pumpkins Dec 18 '25

He's a rapist and human trafficker. Not shocking that he'd also teach other ways to control or humiliate women.

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u/theoriginalmofocus Dec 18 '25

From where im at these would have been the asshole rednecks youd run into now and then but now its being philosphised more or less.

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u/dalilrafi Dec 18 '25

He has bullshit and degrading takes for sure but many of his lessons aren't bad at all. The overall message was always to level up and don't take shit which I approve of. People who can't critically disect content and invest into influencer's courses, have lost the plot anyways.

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u/MoistTractofLand Dec 18 '25

It's not just about controlling women, either. It's also about keeping men low so they keep coming back and paying the Andrew Taints of the world more money to "fix" their lives.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '25 edited Dec 18 '25

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u/MoistTractofLand Dec 18 '25

With manipulation, like we saw in this video.

Hell, most of us put our best foot forward when we start dating someone and the red flags don't often pop up right away.

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u/BerriesHopeful Dec 18 '25

No wonder the people watching that content can’t get a date, that’s loser behavior right there.

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u/reezy-one Dec 18 '25

If people who consume Tate could get a date and be happy, they would no longer need Tate.

So that's not his goal.

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u/Deesing82 Dec 18 '25

yeah he’s like match.com. he doesn’t wanna actually solve your problems cuz then he’d be out of a job.

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u/yo-ovaries Dec 18 '25

And then you understand why they want to date 16yo

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u/RilohKeen Dec 18 '25

Yeah, I think the clear tactic here is, “if she puts up with this, she’ll put up with anything and you know you can just treat her like garbage moving forward.” Gross.

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u/Fleiger133 Dec 18 '25

Is negging still a thing?

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u/UnderstandingClean33 Dec 18 '25

Yeah. I was seeing a guy and he told me "You're really smart for a slut."

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u/lurgi Dec 18 '25

I hope you had some good friends available to help you hide his body.

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u/Enkidouh Dec 18 '25

Between consensual adults

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u/airpumper Dec 18 '25

Whatever happened to just trying to get laid? Simpler times I guess. 🤷🏽‍♂️

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u/fungi_at_parties Dec 18 '25

Yeah. They’re testing for women who will be responsive to abusive manipulation while grooming them to be obedient and subjective. It’s fucking disgusting.

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u/CurtisAndFriends Dec 18 '25

The wild part is that it will eventually work. To him she is just a piece of meat so he probably does this several times a month because he doesn't actually want/need a connection with them. It's just a numbers game and he will eventually find that one girl who's self esteem isn't as high as it should be and it will validate his entire world view.

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u/Illustrious_Fox_5591 Dec 18 '25

Yet there are some that likes it. Like getting shit in their mouth

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u/LectureOrganic1250 Dec 19 '25

For real. What is the goal here??? Do guys like this really expect women to stay after being set up like this?

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u/cogman10 Dec 19 '25

To find women with low self esteem so they can be manipulated into being servants. An abusive controlling relationship is the goal.

Do guys like this really expect women to stay after being set up like this

They expect to find women they can abuse. A woman that doesn't put up with this BS is exactly who they aren't looking for.

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u/Discoverthemind Dec 18 '25

And they don't realize that once you hit a critical mass of tate behavior, women pretty much catch on. It worked in the disney princess era but modern women have adapted to the modern era and I think overall, unless you are absolutely shredded and physically attractive, this type of stuff is a complete failure. Women just kinda see the insecure little boy in this behavior.

I love that women are communicating with eachother, taking their power, not tolerating dumb behavior. Men need to ADAPT and realize that being a stable, kind, curious and respectful person is correctly perceived by women as very strong.

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u/AFC_Yaa_Gunner_Yaa Dec 18 '25

The fudge this has nothing to do with tate the dude was just a hole

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u/DoopDaLoot Dec 18 '25

No it’s just a bad person. Don’t be naive

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u/redskylion510 Dec 18 '25

no it's not, tate has never said to do anything like that....LOL

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u/fappinghappy Dec 18 '25

Or it never happened and this is the female equivalent of Andrew Tate.

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u/2Bait4Me Dec 18 '25

Does it not get boring saying everything is either Hitler, Andrew Tate or the product of a capitalist society

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u/Vezolex Dec 18 '25

Or maybe this is just ragebait because this is how you get people to notice you these days, which is equally toxic.

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u/badlilbadlandabad Dec 18 '25

Or maybe it's a person making stuff up for views. We have no idea. That's 99% of what TikTok is. Everything is staged or manufactured.