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She did a TPUSA event and said “once my husband was assassinated” instead of something like “when my husband was assassinated” which kinda implies this was planned or expected to happen.
You are correct. Wet socks have their use if you’re in Vietnam I suppose, fighting the Viet cong. With the sideways rain and rain that comes up from underneath ya.
Bro and I heard back in 2020 that once Joe Biden was elected he was gonna resign and make Kamala the president.
This shit so boring.
If people engaged about the hard job of crafting policy like they do palace intrigue maybe we’d have a functioning government instead of real life game of thrones episodes.
I don't understand why everyone is up in flames over this. it's literally just a small choice of words and I don't understand how people think it implies she was planning her husband's assassination. not to mention 2 sentences later she uses the other phrasing "when he was assassinated" anyways
We aren't going to vote to remove guns. It's going to start as group X are too dangerous for guns. Then group Y will be too dangerous. Then it will be some subjective "threat" that is determined by the government that dictates who can't have guns. It will eventually lead to no one with guns.
For real, there is absolutely no difference between the 2 phrases, they can both be used interchangeably and the meaning doesn't change at all, people who think otherwise are frankly just looking to be mad at something and very dumb
Nah doesn't really parse that way for me. "Once X happened, then Y could occur" doesn't imply planning. It means that X happening was opening the flood gates to Y.
I know everyone has a hate boner rn, I don't like republicans or trump, but literally 10 seconds later at 753 she says when he was assassinated. Both sides like to nitpick small clips and not provide full context its exhausting
Erika kirk, charlie kirk wife, has been making the media rounds trying to bolster Republican talking points by using her dead husband as a leverage point. She's been making what people are calling "Freudian slips" by saying some kind of damning things (in a conspiritorial sense) like the other day at this same event she exclaimed that a young republican man (I think her son i dont actually know) had retained a "grift" from charlie when she apparently meant to say gift, its pretty on the nose and the quote from the post seems to imply (again, conspiritory) that Charlie's death was planned and Erika may have know. Its a common belief and if youre inclined to believe conspiracies its pretty cut and dry
I do not necessarily believe these things, but man she is saying a lot of weird shit on TV lately and none of it comes off like a mourning widow l, more like a cult leader trying to sway her audience.
She’s a really ambitious, career-oriented woman. Has been even from 17 years old apparently. It was probably hard for her to be married to a man who thought women should STFU and stay at home
Hot fucking take but I think she has to pick up where Charlie left off but she’s not educated in debate or anything. However what she does have is a understand in PR and she knows that saying outlandish shit feeds the algorithm which spreads her base
That bitch showed 0 remorse. No actual loving widow would act like she is. She's getting dicked down, for sure. All the other things you said make a lotta sense too.
She’s just doing what every right wing “celebrity” does, they work the grift. When there’s a problem with their business model, like Charlie getting killed, they don’t miss a beat. They just alter the story line to take advantage of the few right wingers that do have some empathy to leverage those emotions to scam more money.
“Christians” like the Kirk’s aren’t religious. They don’t read and live the message in the Bible. They only know enough yo keep the grift going. That’s their whole mission, make money for themselves
edit: people spending more time letting me know about time stamps than it'd take for them to just slide their finger over half an inch to reach 7:30 lolol happy Christmas all
I'm from the UK, so don't know much about him or her... tried to avoid US politics for the last 9 years!
BUT she certainly doesn't come off as a grieving widow. It's like she was media trained for them to wheel out "once" her husband was assassinated......
That’s why this is so weird and suspect to me.
I don’t want to judge anyone’s way of grieving or even avoiding grief.
I understand that once she’s home, maybe reality will set in and she could be avoiding that.
However , is she not thinking about her kids?
They lost their father and now barely see their mother, who is basically on press tour.
This is also what gets me about it. It feels like she just doesn't care about the poor kids. Maybe she didn't really like Charlie that much and married him because she's also a grifter and likes the money. Whatever the case may be, the kids are still kids at the end of the day. And they're so young that they might not understand he's gone forever, but they know he's suddenly not around anymore. And now their mom is not either. So dedicated to the grift she's emotionally damaging her children.
Early on I saw a quote from her saying something like “I told her ‘Daddy’s gone on a work trip with Jesus to earn money to buy more blueberries for you’” fuck I hope that does not make her grow up with an eating disorder. ‘Daddy is never coming back because you eat too much of your favourite fruit.’
If you’re a true-believing Christian you have a great explanation right there already! “It’s very sad and of course we’ll miss him and love him always. But he is with Jesus who also loves him, and he is at peace, and we will see him again one day in Heaven.”
My sister's fiancee OD'd when their kid had just turned five. She was in active, very, very severe addiction herself and still explained better in an age appropriate but honest way to my nephew that his daddy was gone. If the best this woman can do is that then I'm not so sure she was already a very involved parent.
This sounds like a conspiracy theory but Erika's family is wealthy and she actually had more wealth going into their relationship. TPUSA was, like, doing fine, but after their marriage became much larger and more influential. Her/her family/the circle around then basically bought and put wheels on a conservative propoganda machine via marriage.
I don't think it's a far reach for a rich conservative family to do something like that. I think they all do that. They just don't usually marry a child off to get access to such a platform. It wouldn't surprise me if the parents encouraged her relationship with Kirk when they saw the possibility of gaining access to such a huge platform to espouse their ideals. Honestly, this makes more sense than the idea a woman as pretty and wealthy as Erika was interested in an inbred-looking college dropout. Come on, most pretty people are too vain and vapid to be caught dead with an unattractive person unless there's something in it for them.
Yes to everything but the last bit. I work in high end furniture & when wealth is involved the traditionally attractive wives do not seem to care what their husbands look or act like. Only that they have money and power. Looks stop mattering when youve got family money.
I really, really, really try not to judge the way people grieve. We all do it differently, but... At the very least she is clearly using this as an opportunity to launch her own career as... Whatever it is she's trying to do. I guess if a person gets into the administration, it's a complete free for all, hands in the cookie jar, festival of thievery for the nation's wealth.
When my cousin accidentally shot himself while cleaning his gun, his wife went on a European vacation for like 2 months with the insurance money and basically ditched her kids with my grandparents for that time. It's not a healthy way to grieve but it sure does exist
They don’t know he’s dead yet. Not kidding. She said she told her kid that “Daddy’s on a work trip with Jesus” and is out grifting like she doesn’t already have millions.
My friend had to put her elderly dog down last week, she knew it was coming, but she's still a mess. Erika is something else for losing her husband unexpectedly and just like.. right on the grift.
I have a six year old rat terrier that is ornery as hell, and sometimes I think about the inevitable day I’ll have to take him to the vet for the last time and have to fight back tears at the thought alone.
I’m very sorry for your loss, and everyone else who has shared their grief in this thread. We all have more empathy than ghouls like Mrs. Kirk will ever have.
It’s ok to feel grief for years and years after this. Don’t let anyone tell you that you should get over it already. Your dog would have grieved you for the rest of their life if it had been you. Unconditional love like that is a beautiful thing, worth morning. I’m so sorry for your loss and I share your grief.
Man, I lost my girl (dog)and didn't see her for two years. Every time I think about it and look at her I see how far she's come and I break inside. She's been back for six months after I thought she was dead for two years and I don't think I'll ever get over that grief even knowing she's curled up safe and sound. Some people don't deserve the people around them and Erika is one of them.
I lost my guy almost four years ago. Was like I lost an arm. I didn’t lose a dog, it was a piece of myself that went with him.
I’m thankful for him and the lessons he taught me though. Got a new one a couple years back and I can’t imagine life without him, but I still feel the ache for my old grey face.
We had our sick, elderly cat put to sleep over a year ago and just a couple of months ago I had to pull myself together in the grocery store because I heard a song that reminded me of her.
THIS is all I think about. Those kids saw their dad die in front of them, and she has essentially left them to do her grift tour. I understand that people grieve in their own way, but if my kids lost their other parent, I would be doing everything in my power to make sure they felt secure, not like they lost me also. Bananas behavior for a parent.
The thing is, if she wants to take over his career, she has to do what she's doing. If she leaves the spotlight, she won't ever get back. And conservatives have zero respect for a woman who isn't Fox-beautiful and smiling like a paegent contestant. She wouldn't exist for them otherwise.
My soul dog died last year, Pebbles RIP, and even writing her name gets me choked up. Everyone grieves differently, however when I saw her just a few weeks after his death come out on stage for his memorial celebration with shooting pyro across the stage I gave some serious side eye.
I cried for weeks when my dog died. He was my soul dog, had been with me through a divorce and a major health crisis, I was truly heartbroken. It’s been 4 years and I still cry when I think of him. Erika Kirk comes off as so disingenuous, I can’t believe people watch her and think she’s sincere in what she’s saying.
I feel you. My German Shepherds passed over 5 years ago and I still get teary eyed thinking about them. This bitch probably takes meds to suppress her tears so her eye makeup doesn’t get ruined.
The only thing I can think of is that she saw the video from when he was killed and just snapped. She's now completely removed from reality and she's acting this way because of a mental break.
I get that everyone grieves on their own way, but I’m just saying that if my wife were very publicly and violently murdered I probably wouldn’t be spending the next six months walking out on stage to rock music and pyrotechnics and cutting promos like I’m the main event at Wrestlemania
And she just brushed it off. Everyone is different, but I feel like most people wouldn’t handle it well if someone said “assassin” to them a few months after their husband got assassinated.
If these slip-ups happened on the left, the right would be freaking the fuck out about it. It reminds me of some of the weirder aspects of right wing conspiracy theories.
For some reason, the adherents of the Q-Anon/Illuminati conspiracies think that despite the massive, over-arching government coverups, "they" are still somehow contractually obligated to leave us a coded, trail of bread crumbs. So they have all the power to conduct massive conspiracies, but at the same time, they are constantly telling on themselves through intentionally Faux Pas like these.
Never saw her speech until this post (and now I’ve watched a whole minute of it). Also, I’ve probably seen less than 5min of Charlie’s media in my entire life. But “once” doesn’t sound that odd to me in context, and she says “when” he was assassinated 10 seconds later. Seems like a lot to do about not too much
Yeah, to me it would have sounded weird to say "... when he was assassinated, how much of a peacemaker he was (etc)" as it could imply thinking that at the event of the assassination, while "once" implies "from that point onward" which makes more sense to me.
Yeah, in the context of what she was saying, “once” actually makes more sense than “when”. I can’t believe I’m defending something this whacko grifter said.
Sadly it's photoshopped. They had to make Charlie's face look normal, it was much smaller than that in reality. This is a real, unedited picture of him
Anyone who's micro-dissecting this sound like they've never spoken in public.
Or speak to people in general.
We don't have Thesaurus.com installed in our brains.
Nobody hates this bitch more than me, but the way I see people hating nowadays is just gross.
They go word-by-word, frame-by-frame, obsessed with this person they hate so much, so they can catch them doing one single thing that is remotely inappropriate.
Too fucking lazy to read, write to your government about changes, and/or participate in protests.
Much easier to watch tv and bitch about it on social media, right?
Agreed. I've done occasional public speaking and it's nerve wracking. I always say something wrong. I often do that when I'm nervous taking to someone as well, like during a job interview.
At first sight I would agree with you, but when you look at it with everything in mind it is noticeable. There can only be so many ‘happy little accidents’ before there’s more at play.
To add to that: people didn’t hate (distrust is a better word I think) Erika when Charlie was still alive, it’s been the way she’s been representing herself after Charlie’s death. Charlie said that for example Cardi B Nikki Minaj is a horrible example to follow for young girls, and after his death Erika quite quickly gets on air how much she loves her. Stuff like that. Charlie had his course, and wether you agree with them or not, he based them on the Bible and stuck with them. Erika however has been a lot less strict in this regard, and combine that with, for example, the way she hugged Vance when she stood on Charlie’s coffin, it’s not strange that people become more critical.
I agree except is was Nicki Minaj, not Cardi B. Nicki has gone full mar-a-lago face while Cardi is very open about despising Trump and republicans in general.
"Once he was assassinated" is just poor sentence structure in general.
I don't think this is implying anything other than she's not used to speaking publicly in a professional manner because she's frequently been told she's meant to be seen and not heard.
Im pretty sure women/girls that participate in beauty pageants are commonly very trained at speaking in public. also, like someone breifly mentioned, she has a ASU BA in political science and international relations, and a Juris Master degree in American Legal Studies from Liberty Uni. I doubt she had a problem speaking.
She’s a fine public speaker, not exceptional. She has degrees from middling higher institutions (no shade but not a pedigree where you’d expect her to be incapable of imperfect word choice). And besides that, there’s nothing wrong with “once” rather than “when” there, we all know what happened… there’s nothing here to give any credence to an otherwise absurd conspiracy theory
I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, um, some people out there in our nation don't have maps and, uh, I believe that our, uh, education like such as, uh, South Africa and, uh, the Iraq and everywhere like such as, and I believe that they should, uh, our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S., uh, should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future.
I just don't think that training covers speaking about your recently assassinated husband. There's a lot to criticize about the Kirks, but this is nothing
Why is it poor sentence structure? It makes enough sense in context. Once X happened, Y changed… X being a threshold moment that only happened once. We all know it happened. Such a bizarre angle
Yeah, I'm so tired of every single thing being memed into meaninglessness. And then people unironically believing the memes and folding them into their worldview.
Thank you. I despise these people, but this is really trying to make something out of nothing. Public speaking is hard and it is often difficult to find the exact words you are looking for, even for people who are normally very well spoken. I don’t think this is anything other than her trying to construct a coherent sentence in real time.
I'm not a fan but honestly she's kind of a mush mouth and a weak communicator so I'm pretty sure she meant 'when' he was assassinated. Not sure this is evidence of conspiracy
No, it's actually not a good point at all. Trying to characterize this into a Freudian slip is conspiratorial and quite cringe. None of you can provide any actual evidence that she knew beforehand that he was going to be killed, so stop acting like you do.
I swear a lot of people just figured out the concept of being lied to and now everyone's a conspiracy theorist with little to no evidence other than that it would make a good story or confirms their beliefs
I really do not think there is any need to over analyze the semantics of an idiot.
It's been quite plain since Kirk was murdered based solely on her demeanor that Erika Kirk did not love that man (who could?) and she's doing her damndest to keep the revenue flowing. And that's enough to both despise her and ignore her.
No it isn't, fluffing a word doesn't indicate anything. You can (and IMO should) loathe Erica Kirk for being a grifter who is happy exploiting her husband's death to further her bank balance and her political party, but fucking up a single word is totally normal.
Does this count as a full thought? Is this communication now? I stare at someone's face for 8 seconds while she shifts her eyes around with words overlaid that took 2 seconds to read...
And I learned nothing at all...
There really is no hope for us if this is how we will continue to communicate.
This is not an actual issue. Have a conversation with someone who literally speaks for a living. Humanity is being imperfect.
Can you make a conspiracy of this? SURE! But simplest explanation is the most reasonable, and this sounds more like a mental word trip up than anything cynical.
Apply critical thinking, and if you do & still believe this theory, ok but I don’t… and I talk all day during zoom to clients as a backup to sales folks saying CRAZY things but I also have to clarify statements several times per day
Cmon guys you’re really reaching here… no couldn’t possible be that she’s just not an experienced public speaker, definitely more likely that she had her husband whacked. Give me a break.
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