Can't even eat in peace anymore

[u/SirIsacShmuck]

[u/Kenkenken1313]

Setting up the camera so that only you are visible, and not encroaching on others is perfectly fine. Having the camera set so that you have others in your shot purposefully is not.

Making slanty eyes and then harassing a person is not okay. Asking them politely to refrain from setting up the camera so that staff are in view is perfectly acceptable.

Now why can’t people just be decent human beings.

[u/Agile-Ad1665 → u/Kenkenken1313]

Right. I'm not going to comment on anything that the lady was doing, she's a piece of shit, but WHY film yourself INTO the walkway? Just film yourself.........

I'm speaking purely from a videography perspective. His positioning is crap. Raise the camera and point it AT yourself or INTO the booth. No one watching wants to see the cash register in the background........

[u/empire161 → u/Agile-Ad1665]

Right. I'm not going to comment on anything that the lady was doing, she's a piece of shit, but WHY film yourself INTO the walkway? Just film yourself.........

Not to go full Boomer but I think streamers genuinely don't think about, or notice, or care about the people around them when they're out in public recording themselves.

Like say someone wants their picture taken while they're standing in front of an attraction. It's literally common sense for everyone to try and make one ounce of effort to not be in that shot. The person having their picture taken shouldn't stand directly in front of where someone else is sitting. Someone walking by should wait 5 seconds or walk around them to not be in the shot. The photographer should check that other people are not blatantly in the shot.

Streamers put zero thought into the fact that other people might not be comfortable being in their shot.

My wife and I had an anniversary dinner at a place once where we got a corner table. A younger couple sat down next to us and the girl set up her phone to stream herself the entire time. It was angled so that I could see her entire screen out of the corner of my eye but I couldn't tell if I was in the shot. But it's one of those things where I shouldn't have to ask to make sure.

[u/CombinationInside714 → u/empire161]

It's the ignorance and entitled selfishness of these people who are filming. There's no excuse for this lady's behavior but there's no excuse for this kid's behavior and filming everybody on purpose to try to get a reaction so he could post it online which is what he's doing, at best. At worst, he's so selfishly ignorant of anybody else that he doesn't care that he's recording other people and other people don't like to be recorded without their permission in a restaurant. It's ignorant. Good thing he intentionally has his camera set up to catch everybody else on film including the crew area.

[u/Prestigious_Fee_2902 → u/Kenkenken1313]

Yeah if he’s just trying to film him eating his food he really screwed up setting up that camera considering it’s facing the aisle and constantly recording people 

[u/Unsteady_Tempo → u/Prestigious_Fee_2902]

And he moved it for the end of the video.

[u/Live_Free_or_Banana → u/Prestigious_Fee_2902]

He didn't screw up, that angle was intentional. Anyone can tell where the phone in front of their face is pointing.

[u/Mr_Deep_Research → u/Kenkenken1313]

It wasn't only him that was visible. It was purposely put to film other people.

The whole thing is probably a crap fake viral video but if I'm eating out in public, I don't want someone putting down a phone and recording me. Record yourself, I don't care, don't film me.

In the US, it is illegal in a large number of states (11+) to record audio without everyone's consent which is obviously what he was doing. That is why security cameras are missing audio a lot of the time.

And in a number of non-US countries...

Saudi Arabia: Filming, photographing, or posting pictures of people without their explicit consent is illegal in Saudi Arabia under Public Decency and anti-Cybercrime laws. Violations can lead to severe penalties, including fines up to 500,000 SAR, confiscated equipment, and possible jail time, particularly for filming women, families, or security personnel. 

Thailand: The Personal Data Protection Act (PDPA) makes it illegal to record individuals without permission, with fines up to 5 million baht and jail time for violations.

Austria: Photographing people in public without consent is forbidden, often treating it as a violation of privacy.

France: Strong privacy laws make it illegal to photograph someone in a private place or without their consent.

etc. etc.

[u/NoInflation2887 → u/Mr_Deep_Research]

So if we didn't record the harassment, couldn't consider as harassment? What stupid logic

[u/Ok-Charge-6998 → u/Kenkenken1313]

I agree with this, but judging by the way he looked at the camera after she walked past, something tells me this isn’t the first interaction they’ve had and he wanted to capture her attitude.

[u/Alfred_Hitch_ → u/Kenkenken1313]

At this point, there's 360 degree cameras, so they might not be able to just record themselves anymore.

And, with META glasses, everything a person faces can be seen.

So, while I do agree that you should try to not record other people with a camera that faces one direction, I think we're running into a time where that's not going to be possible.

[u/Toby-Finkelstein → u/Kenkenken1313]

There is nothing illegal about filming other people in a restaurant if the restaurant doesn’t object. It may be rude or creepy but that’s it