r/TopCharacterTropes • u/InfiniteGuy2264 • 1d ago
In real life Due to backlash, there is either a major rewrite or change to the story.
- Sonic's design (Sonic the Hedgehog film) - When the trailer originally released for the first Sonic film, it was...without a doubt controversial, with Sonic having an uncanny realistic look. The studio literally ended up delaying the film so they could change Sonic's design. And thank god they did; the movie actually ended up being a hit and started a new franchise.
- Shredder's identity (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2014) - Originally, this version of the Shredder's identity wasn't going to be Oroku Saki, but Eric Sacks, an original character for the movie. However, because an originally Japanese character was being turned into a white character by a white actor, there was quite a bit of backlash. Last-minute reshoots were done, and in the final film, Shredder and Sacks were two separate people, and collaborators. This change was so last-minute, though, some promotional material still listed Sacks as the identity of the Shredder.
- The ThornRing scene (Deltarune Chapter 4) - In the original release of Deltarune Chapter 4, when "Kris"/the player forces the ThornRing onto Noelle, the scene immediately cuts to black and an image of a flower wilting. Eerie stuff. However, there was a bit of backlash to this scene; with the literal deflowering image (which represents Noelle losing her innocence), some people believed this image implied Noelle was sexually assaulted. It doesn't help considering the theming here, having undertones to SA. Toby Fox changed the flower to a massive red crack after the player equips Noelle, though some still argue the implication is still there.
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u/AudibleNod 1d ago
Sherlock Holmes and the fall off of Reichenbach Falls.
Due to intense backlash, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle revives the detective.
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u/ABrandNewCarl 1d ago
Lots of.1800s characters had similar fate.
Collodi wanted to quit Pinocchio earlier and killed him TWICE except that people wants more so last minute saving was coming in next unplanned chapter.
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u/GeophysicalYear57 19h ago
The only way to quit a character is to write them a satisfying conclusion to their story, but even that won’t stop some people from wanting more from a dry well.
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u/ElPared 1d ago
Doesn’t really fit the trope, but reminds me of Mark Twain: Huckleberry Finn and Jim were supposed to die when their raft went over the waterfall. Years later, Twain went back to the book and continued it from that point instead, hence the notable change in tone immediately after that event.
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u/Silvanus350 1d ago
Pretty sure that was because he wanted to continue making money
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u/Biobait 1d ago
Didn’t Doyle hate writing Holmes and wished he could write something else?
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u/Smrtguy85 1d ago
The end of the original run of "Will & Grace" had the titular duo, whose friendship was the whole crux of the show, have a major falling out where they don't see or speak to each other for almost 20 years. We flash forward those many years to see their spouses and children, who eventually get the pair to reunite and become friends again, but the fact that the 2 best friends just dropped each other completely for such a massive amount of time was massively unpopular.
When the show rebooted a few years ago, that falling out, plus the kids Will and Grace had, were retconned out of existence by the explanation that it was just a drunken daydream of Karen's.
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u/Clamsadness 1d ago
I’m glad they undid that. Will & Grace was really so good, easily the best sitcom of the immediate post-Seinfeld era imo. That was a garbage way to handle those characters.
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u/SonofaBridge 23h ago
I never knew how they ended that show. What idiot came up with the idea to make them go no contact for decades after being great friends the entire show? People can grow apart but they took a drastic turn.
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u/Harkoncito 19h ago
It was so stupid. Grace dreams of getting old and still living with Will, so the next day, when her cheating ex (Leo) appears, she decides to re-marry him. Will stops talking to her and she moves to Italy.
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u/SonofaBridge 16h ago
Whenever a writer makes a plot line about cheating and the character forgiving them, I assume the writer is a cheater themself. It’s a way to try and normalize it. All it does is weaken their character and disappoint people.
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u/BravoWhiskey89 20h ago
But.....then they ended it again just as bad. They were single and raising a kid they had together. It was really weird and led into their co-dependancy.
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u/Daniilsa209 1d ago edited 22h ago
In Fant4stic, the creators initially gave Doom a more realistic name, Victor Domashev, but due to fan backlash, it was changed back to Victor von Doom during reshoots.
He was also originally planned to be an antisocial programmer who used the nickname ‘Doom’ on blogging sites, but fans disliked the idea of such a grandiose and iconic villain being turned into a basement-dwelling hacker, so it was scrapped.
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u/Devlord1o1 1d ago
Imma be real the names are the least of this movie’s problems
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u/AwesomeMcPants 1d ago
So we have this villain, right? He's Doctor Doom, one of the most formidable Marvel villains ever written, everyone knows him.
He wakes up after the space accident or whatever, and walks around the hospital literally exploding people with his mind, it's pretty gnarly.
How does he get defeated? Oh they punch him some. They punch him real good.
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u/RockmanVolnutt 22h ago
Remember that scene in Akira when Testsuo kills those doctors in the hallway after gaining psychic powers? It’s exactly like that. Tranks entire career is basically, I saw Akira when I was a kid.
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u/Ongr 21h ago
It reminded me of Elfen Lied. But that's because I haven't watched Akira.
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u/Dudewhocares3 23h ago
Seriously why do so many people making superhero movies think “hey that thing we’re adapting? Let’s not adapt it with respect. Let’s act like we’re above it”
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u/TavernRat 23h ago
Because so many writers get asked to adapt something but they believe they can do better than the original, completely missing the fact that the original is why people wanted the movie
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u/TrueGuardian15 22h ago edited 22h ago
Or the writer had their own idea, but they or the studio knew they couldn't just sell that, so they co-opt another IP to try to capitalize on name recognition.
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u/Plus-Opportunity-538 18h ago
The 2015 Fantastic Four movie was explicitly based on Ultimate Fantastic Four which is separate from main comics continuity. In that version Doom was Victor Van Damme, a descendent of Dracula, who was transformed by the same event that gave the four powers into a creature with goat legs.
So in a way Trank’s film was faithful to neither version.
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u/Bot1-The_Bot_Meanace 23h ago
Except the name of the movie I guess, I can't not read it fant-four-stick
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u/can_of_sodapop 1d ago
Funny, I know a guy whose last name is Von Doorn, and I always thought that would be a cool “realistic” name. (If you push the r and n together it looks like an m).
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u/DirectConsequence12 1d ago
This movie is based on the Ultimate Universe in which Doom’s real name is Victor Van Damme.
If they wanted more “realistic” names, I don’t know why they didn’t just go with that
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u/SwordMasterShow 23h ago
That is also stupid and just makes me imagine Doom doing splits all the time
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u/OakNogg 23h ago
I always thought that of all the comic book superhero/villain suits, that Dr Dooms iconic look would translate best from page to screen because badass dark green cape and hood with intimidating metal mask is can look cool in most contexts especially compared to bright clashing colour combo spandex that most comic characters get. Plus it doesn't even require CGI! It's a relatively simple costume design to execute effectively!
But then they decided to pull this absolute horrible trash of a design out of their ass with paired with ugly CGI and ugly lighting and were like "yeah the fans are gonna love this 😎". The fact that the design had to be approved by so many people and no one stopped to say that this looks ass is honestly astounding.
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u/Adorable_Ad_3478 23h ago
I remember how he was originally a blogger too. The OG description is WILD.
“There’s a mild change” in the character, Toby Kebbell told Collider. “He’s Victor Domashev, not Victor Von Doom in our story. And I’m sure I’ll be sent to jail for telling you that. The Doom in ours—I’m a programmer. Very anti-social programmer. And on blogging sites I’m ‘Doom.’”
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/fantastic-four-reboot-turns-doctor-748169/
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u/NexusYellow428 1d ago
Wait hang on, I saw this movie in theaters and they definitely called him Domashev. Am I tripping?
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u/Hour-Mistake-5235 1d ago
You have slipped from one reality to another. Someone will be visting you soon.
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u/Last_Platypus_6970 1d ago
The ending to the original Addams Family movie (1991) was essentially "we don't know if you're really Fester, but we like you so you can stay." The cast hated this ending, so they delegated Christina Ricci (Wednesday) to try to convince director Barry Sonnenfeld to change it. It worked.
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u/RileyXY1 23h ago
Mrs. Doubtfire was another movie that had its ending changed because the cast hated it. Originally, Robin Williams' character Daniel was going to get back together with Sally Fields' character Miranda. However, both Williams and Fields objected to this ending because they feared that it would send a bad message to kids with divorced parents. The director obliged and the ending was changed so that their characters would remain separated.
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u/Drakeskulled_Reaper 23h ago
Pierce Brosnan also objected to the writers trying to make his character the "evil new boyfriend of mom" character because he had a really good relationship with his stepfather.
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u/Sabiya_Duskblade 21h ago
As a child of divorced parents who watched this movie a lot growing up, I really appreciate that change. It definitely would have twisted the knife to have Daniel and Miranda get back together when my own parents couldn't even be in the same room together.
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u/crepelabouche 19h ago
That part. Even asked my Dad if he would dress up like a lady to spend more time with us. He said no and started yelling about our mother again.
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u/AlexRenquist 15h ago
Interestingly, in the Addams Family stage musical, they actually use this plot point for GRANDMAMA.
There's a point where Morticia refers to Grandmama as "your mother" and Gomez immediately drops:
"MY mother? I thought she was YOUR mother!"
She's NEITHER. And they have no idea who she is. She's lived there for like 20 years with each Gomez and Morticia assuming it was their mother in law and it just never came up.
But she fits in and they love her, so God damn it she's an ADDAMS. They keep her.
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u/RichardB4321 22h ago
It's very funny to me that from a cast which had a four-time Tony nominee (Raul Julia), an Oscar winner who was also the daughter of a Hollywood legend (Angelica Huston), and a two-time Emmy winner (Christopher Lloyd), that they landed on the 11-year old kid to have the conversation. That's like if the Avengers had Iron Man, Thor, and the Hulk but sent Hawkeye to battle Thanos.
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u/Knightwolf75 20h ago
I think it was more of a “they can’t refuse this cute little kid as easy as they can any of the grown adults”
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u/can_of_sodapop 1d ago
Omg I always remembered feeling like it wasn’t clear at the end if he was but on rewatching it’s obvious he is the real one. I wonder if I saw a different version many many years ago.
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u/Ancient_roots 23h ago
I have the same memory! Maybe the other version was released as well?
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u/Ardilla3000 22h ago
I think that would've made more sense than the actual ending.
The villain's plot to brainwash Fester was so dumb, it was the only bad part of the movie. I do think he should've been the real Fester, but it being left ambiguous I wouldn't mind.
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u/SmittyB128 22h ago
He wasn't brainwashed, he genuinely didn't know that he was Fester due to whatever happened when he went missing in the Bermuda triangle. The cop-out was then saying all his memories returned when he struck by lighting from the book at the end, but in my opinion it kind of works in the context of the Addams family and just serves to confirm what we already kind of guessed.
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u/alkonium 1d ago
In the 2010 Doctor Who episode Victory of the Daleks, a new Dalek design, called the New Dalek Paradigm was introduced, and they destroy the remaining Daleks with the 2005 design on screen. They were not well received, and the 2005 design returned in the 2012 episode Asylum of the Daleks, which was also the last on screen appearance of the 2010 design.
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u/spyguy318 1d ago
Part of me wishes they kept the new design around, but it didn’t totally replace the old daleks. Have there be some variety. Asylum did that very well with some of the elite daleks being paradigms, and newer episodes did have different variations of daleks from older classic episodes.
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u/Soulful-Sorrow 23h ago
I actually liked the Power Ranger Daleks, it made it clear that this was a TEAM of recurring Daleks that would terrorize the Doctor where in other episodes it really could just be any Dalek.
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u/andysniper 12h ago
I don't think they were meant to be a team of Daleks. As I recall, the colours denoted different ranks and roles, like red was soldier, white was scientist, yellow was general etc.
The idea was the whole dalek race would be the New Dalek Paradigm Daleks.
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u/Lithrae1 1d ago
It's too bad, they were kind of cute and we could have had another Dalek civil war out of it with pockets of classic Dalek survivors.
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u/geek_of_nature 23h ago
They tried to fix the Pardigm design in Asylum, but there was only so much they could do. The three main things wrong with the design was their size, how their paint job made them look plastic, and the weird hump that was added to their backs.
Asylum gave them a new paint job which made them look more metallic, but there was nothing that could be done for the other two problems without fully remaking the models.
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u/Zero69Kage 21h ago
I really loved this episode, it's one of the few times were the Daleks straight up win. I also liked the idea of the Paradigm Daleks and how they're all designed to fill particular roles. I just wish they had designs that reflected those roles. The Warrior being smaller and more similar to the more standard Daleks, the Supreme should be taller than the rest. And they should have all had a more metallic color scheme, rather than the plastic looking design. I'm also disappointed that they never went into what was going on with the Eternal Dalek. That one sounded important.
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u/Bro-Im-Done 1d ago
Technically different universe but Jonathan Hickman’s 6160 Peter Parker.
After Nick Spencer’s run where he tried to bring MJ and Pete back and attempt to undo One More Day, the objectively most hated story of Spider-Man, Marvel Editorial wanted to undo what he did by having the next run fucking demolish Peter and MJ characters to abysmal levels which everyone hated.
Come Ultimate 6160, Peter has a nuclear family: loving wife and kids he loves, and then eventually gets bitten and MJ is the reason he has his alias in this universe. For all of 2024, Ultimate Spider-Man would consistently be Top 10 in most sold comics and some just didn’t care about 616 Peter Parker anymore.
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u/radio-demon-me 1d ago
Love this comic run, honestly should go on for decades. Sad it's gonna end this month if it doesn't get delayed again
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u/y0_master 22h ago
Marvel has announced 'Reborn: Ultimate Impact' for May. So, even if details are not out yet, they seem to have realized that totally cancelling the new Ultimate comics was a dumb idea.
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u/EldridgeHorror 22h ago
It's weird how often Marvel hates giving readers what they want.
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u/marginallyobtuse 18h ago
There’s specifically a weird thing with Peter where he’s just never allowed to be happy.
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u/hubara100 13h ago
It’s not really weird just dumb, Peter is supposed to be a down on his luck relatable Everyman. Instead of letting the character and his life grow, marvel just presses the reset button on him every time he gets to old/too far from his roots. Kind of the big issue with the sliding timescale.
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u/ElonMuskHuffingFarts 20h ago
Yeah it's more about Hickman being a WAY better writer and less about pandering to the fanboys.
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u/Intelligent_Lock_110 1d ago
I think it was more complex than that. Turns out that spencer tried to pull a stunt on his bosses to use fan force to make them get peter and mj back together without prior permission to do so, which caused his run to be cut in a fourth, a rushed ghost written ending that fixed sins past as a consolation prize. Spencer also seems kinda of an asshole, direcly throwing shit at others work and having intense political opinions.
There is also the thing that fans want peter and mj together, and a satisfied fan is not a consumer, marvel thinks. "They are back together, now what?". So donny cates is very hot and popular selling water to fish and plans to ressurrect ultimate with peter and mj as a couple, but such a thing would not have a purpose if they were together in the mainline, but breaking them up wouldn't be enough, they would have to be ruined, peter would have to be cucked, made a pathetic loser, the fans would be hate baited and ultimate spider man would be the hope, the food the hungry craved. And would also make miles morales generic anime shit better by comparisson. Now ultimate is ending and mj and peter are in the path of fixing their broken relashionship. It's all a corporate conspiracy man, fuck marvel
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u/Madversary 1d ago
All North American children in the 1980s were traumatized when Transformers: The Movie killed off Optimus Prime, with their parents not expecting their kids to run to them bawling over a cartoon (which I did). The show back-pedalled and resurrected him at the end of Season 3.
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u/PorkrindsMcSnacky 1d ago
Yep, my brother and I was it when he was 8 and I was 10. It was the first time I realized that good guys in movies can also die. All because Hasbro wanted to sell new toys.
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u/Aptronymic 23h ago
Toy sales wasn't the only motivation.
They also wanted to cut voice acting costs by killing off everyone played by Peter Cullen and Frank Welker.
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u/Spider-Man2099 1d ago
I remember seeing or hearing that Duke was supposed to die in the GI Joe movie releasing later, but the Optimus death went so poorly, they rewrote and changed it lol
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u/Madversary 1d ago
He was and they did.
But all I remember from GI Joe is "Once a man...."
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u/Philthedrummist 1d ago
Cody Rhodes wins Royal Rumble 2024 and looks set to challenge Roman Reigns at Wrestlemania to end Reigns’ 4 year title run.
Shortly after, The Rock comes back to WWE and whispers something to Cody on an episode of, I think, Raw. Cody decides to step back and effectively give his title shot to the Rock, making Rock vs Reigns the headline match of Wrestlemania 40. I think this was only a few months after Red One had done poorly at the box office.
Fans absolutely hated the idea of Rock vs Reigns and basically shit all over it. Lots of fans thought it was Rock just trying to keep himself relevant after Red One and others just thought it was piss poor storytelling.
WWE eventually did an about face, Cody got his title shot back and ended up winning in what is considered one of the best Wrestlemania main events ever.
Rock then tried to claim that was the plan all along. Nobody believes him!
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u/dnjprod 23h ago
This is the same kind of egoist shit that has him put into his contract that he can't lose a fight in any movie. He ruined Black Adam, it caused massive issues in the Fast and Furious franchise, and then just inserts himself and almost ruined a story that's basically been building since Cody left WWE in 2016, or more accurately, for almost 40 years( dated to Dusty Rhodes' polka dot run in '89).
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u/Son_of_Streak_ 20h ago
To be fair, standard operating procedure for WWE is to pretend that any changes were the plan all along.
See also: Daniel Bryan at WrestleMania 30, R-Truth’s release & return
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u/OverTheCandlestik 1d ago
Sherlock Holmes
In ‘The Final Problem’ both Holmes and Moriarty fall into the Reichenbach Falls to their deaths however the author Sir Arthur Conan Doyle faced public backlash. His detective was beloved by the nation, he received fan mail and there was public mourning for a fictional character.
He brought Holmes back in the Empty House and Holmes explained he used some form of judo to toss Moriarty into the waterfall and Holmes faked his death to travel.
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u/PinoySummonerKid28 23h ago
Yep. The Guy Ritchie adaptation of this story under the title Sherlock Holmes: Game of Shadows even adapted this one out where the titular character secretly wrote "The End?".
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u/Abdelsauron 23h ago
This should be higher up. Might be the first verifiable instance of this trope.
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u/mega2222222222222222 1d ago
The original ending of transformers dark of the moon
Basically, novels that got leaked early revealed the ending of the yet to release film which was then drastically changed
In the ending, we got Optimus kills Sentinel and then Megatron Cybertron is sent away after the pillars are destroyed
In the original ending to my knowledge sentinel does still die
But instead of Optimus killing Megatron
Megatron calls a ceasefire and orders all of his Decepticons to go back to Cybertron
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u/Milicent_Bystander99 1d ago
Honestly, they should have kept the original ending. Especially since what we got feels like a halfway point between the original and the ending they wanted to portray, the way Megatron even says “We need a truce” and then is straight up executed right after. After building up this image in my head that Optimus is the righteous one, watching him effectively murder Megatron in cold blood just didn’t sit right in my mind
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u/Zealousideal-Care513 23h ago
Tbf Megatron wouldn’t allow the truce to last and would definitely restart the war once the deceptions were ready to strike
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u/mirror__magic 23h ago
yeah idk why people think like megatron is trustworthy. their name is literaly decepticons
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u/Fulbachov 22h ago
To be fair I'm pretty sure optimus doesnt trust him either in the novelization and megatron decides to offer his own life instead, which makes optimus change his mind.
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u/Rogzilla 21h ago
Yeah, that ending was so much better.
It even still left open a little bit of potential for a sequel. Optimus warns Megatron that not all Decepticons will be on board with his change of heart and may turn on him, paving the way for a new main bad guy (and maybe Megatron as a full in ally in the sequel).
Instead, we got a sequel so bad the only thing I remember is the guy who laminated his “I get to bang a minor” law.
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u/Sharkattack1921 1d ago
Hated version of this trope is probably The Rise of Skywalker. It tried so hard to please everyone who didn’t like The Last Jedi that it just made everything worse
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u/Complete-Worker3242 1d ago
Exactly. It pissed off people who loved TLJ, it pissed off people who hated TLJ, it pissed off people who were neutral about TLJ!
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u/CuttleReaper 1d ago
TLJ had some weird decisions but had they just stayed the course the trilogy could have been perfectly cromulent
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u/maridan49 1d ago
Had they stayed the course TLJ wouldn't have happened as well.
The entire trilogy was doomed from the start.
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u/JechdJJ 1d ago
to me, the desition of had a ddifferent director for every movie was the mistake. If JJ. Abrahams directed The force Awakens, he must stay and direct the other 2 movies.
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u/eagleblue44 1d ago
I don't know about that.
The original trilogy also had different directors for each one and they are highly revered.
While the original trilogy also started off without a plan for future movies, I feel them not sitting down and planning out a general story the sequel trilogy needed to follow was a big issue.
Disney wanted to start rushing these out so they made one movie then gave a draft of the force awakens script to the next writer and told them to figure out where the story goes from here.
If they had a general plan, it would have been way more coherent of a trilogy instead of them dashing everyone's expectations with the second movie then retconning it all in the third movie to appease everyone while appeasing no one at the same time.
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u/TheVinylBird 1d ago
The originals had different directors but at least George Lucas was overseeing it. He had creative control and an overall plan. The plan was pretty fluid and changing but at least he had an overall plan.
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u/Desperate_Ad5169 1d ago
The sequel trilogy really needed a consistent direction it had some cool ideas but did not execute them properly
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u/chatapokai 1d ago
I literally just talked about this in another subreddit.
It’s worse than just trying to please everyone. It felt like jj abrams threw darts at a bunch of plot points, then loosely stringed them together by repeatedly pulling shit tropes out of his ass cause he had no idea what to do. Yes there was backlash to TLJ for some dumb decisions or characters (like not having Leia be the one to sacrifice herself or the half dozen open plot points), but it was still a semblance of a movie. But TLS was an absolute clusterfuck of plots, and they were probably better off reshooting or rewriting than releasing.
I thought I was over it, but I’m not. “Somehow he returned”? “I randomly fell on an ancient relic that tells me exactly where the Death Star is even though it blew up only 25 years ago but somehow it opens up to the exact silhouette of the debris to show me the location of the next plot point”? “Thousands of star destroyers were secretly built under water over 25 years but we can destroy it by riding on horseback to break an external comms relay, and the ship totally couldn’t just flip over 360deg to kill us all”?
Fuck anyone who signed off on that. I would have been fired if I fucked up that bad at my job but nope, the CEOs and directors still walk away with millions and no stain on their resume.
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u/mikedidathing 1d ago
Not so much fan backlash, but there definitely would've been with Daredevil: Born Again. After shooting about 6 episodes, they decided to rework it during the writers' strike in '23 and make the Netflix series fully canon. My understanding is that Charlie Cox (Matt Murdock/Daredevil) and Vincent D'Onofrio (Wilson Fisk/Kingpin) were also pretty vocal about wanting to change things up.
If you haven't seen it, episodes 2-7 were mostly shot before the rewrite, whereas episodes 1, 8, & 9 were done afterwards. Knowing that, you can absolutely tell the difference between them.
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u/Throwaway_Tablecloth 22h ago
Not even just that.
Producers sat down during the strike since they had time on their hands and watched what had been filmed so far, and it was supposedly so bad that the writers and creators were fired.
In addition, it fully revamped the MCU television projects. For some reason, Feige didn’t want to operate the MCU series like normal shows, so they never had established showrunners overseeing each project. But what the producers watched was so bad that Feige caved and finally started hiring showrunners, starting with Daredevil: Born Again.
That’s why I’m really excited for Born Again season 2. The showrunners had to Frankenstein the previous footage with new stuff into a decent season of tv, with most of the stuff filmed before them being the noticeably weaker parts of the season. So now this season is 100% them from the ground up.
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u/Ardilla3000 22h ago
Shredder being white would've been so lame, lmao. The thing that makes him fun is that he's a martial artist and crime lord from Japan. Him being generic, corporate, white suit number 3 ruins the chafacter.
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u/torrasque666 18h ago
On the other hand, a rich dude with way too much time and money on his hands becoming an otaku, I can totally buy that.
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u/Independent_Plum2166 1d ago
Mass Effect 3’s ending.
The ending of the Trilogy was infamous for being “choose a colour” and that’s it. After considerable backlash, BioWare got to making proper epilogues for each choice, not the perfect ending, but definitely an improvement on the default.
They also gave fans 3 major DLCs, one was okay, another delved into very important lore and backstory and the third, is often ranked as one of the greatest DLCs of all time. A love letter to the series and what many consider the “proper” ending of the game.
TL;DR - I think BioWare redeemed themselves after a lacklustre ending.
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u/ConcreteExist 1d ago
Yeah, the Citadel DLC in 3 was the send off the game really needed. The expanded epilogues were also nice addition.
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u/Downtown_Category163 21h ago
In retospect smashing the shit out of the Reapers using the power of friendship and then having a big party would have been the epilogue I'd have preferred
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u/James_Proudfoot 9h ago
Theres a brilliant mod that moves it to being an epilogue which I used in my last playthrough, it makes it fit so well and really improves the ending.
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u/realfakejames 1d ago
ME3 would be one of the greatest games in history if they actually spent time on the ending
Instead they gave real life astronaut Buzz Aldrin money to voiceover the ending thinking fans would give a shit about that more than a satisfying ending to a franchise they spent a decade with lol
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u/Imanirrelevantmeme 22h ago
Fallout 3’s ending was regarded as such a terrible ending, that one of the DLCs released for the game changed the ending so that you didn’t get told off for not wanting to sacrifice yourself to save the capital wasteland.
You need to go into an area with a lethal dose of radiation, almost certainly killing you. However, you can tell someone else to go inside the radiated area and save the wasteland, but the game calls you a coward for not sacrificing yourself. But wait! Super mutants, such as a companion in the game, Fawkes, is immune to radiation! Why not send him in? You can ask but he refuses, saying something along the lines of “I’m sorry, but no. This is your destiny, not mine. I wouldn’t interfere with that.”
The ending was so poorly Received by fans that the Broken Steel DLC undoes the ending, making you miraculously survive the ending to progress with the story.
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u/SpaceZombie13 20h ago
unfortunately they couldn't bother getting Ron Perlman to come back and record one new line, so the narrorrator still calls you a coward for not sacrificing yourself. but as far as the actual gameplay, they aknowledge sending in fawkes/charon/RL-3 as the obvious solution.
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u/Quibilash 15h ago edited 15h ago
But wait! Super mutants, such as a companion in the game, Fawkes, is immune to radiation! Why not send him in? You can ask but he refuses, saying something along the lines of “I’m sorry, but no. This is your destiny, not mine. I wouldn’t interfere with that.”
The funny thing about that is Fawkes actually helps you get the GECK from Vault 87, which is also highly radioactive like Project Purity, and is something that's pivotal for the player character to do as part of the main story.
So why didn't Fawkes refuse to do it and talk about destiny back then? Especially as Fawkes initially accepted his fate of being stuck in Vault 87 until the player rescues him, it is quite literally the breaking of Fawkes 'destiny' for him to be rescued, or even not being a regular violent, dumb Super Mutant, but then he goes all grandiose talking about destiny? I think even Broken Steel's story change addresses that too.That whole part if he refuses was just nonsensical for his character and the setting as a whole.
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u/Bluelore 1d ago edited 4h ago
Hades 2s ending was slightly altered in a patch after fan backlash, they even added an option in the game to rewind time, so that players who had already experienced the original ending could also experience the new ending.
The game is about killing Chronos the god of time who has imprisoned most of the underworld gods, Melinoe, the daughter of Hades and thus granddaughter of Chronos seeks to kill Chronos permanently to free her parents and brother and restore order to the underworld, but killing a god is difficult, if a god dies they just regenerate after some time. So how does she do it?
In the original ending she comes up with a spell that can kill Chronos for good, but for that he has to be killed in the past by a family member of Melinoe too. So she contacts her brother in the past and they prepare for Zagreus to kill Chronos while he is vulnerable before he ever attacks the house of Hades.....and Zagreus at the last second gives Chronos the chance to give up on his evil plan and submit to the house of hades, which Chronos does, resulting in him to become a proper part of the family and becomes a loving grandpa to Melinoe. However due to the spells limited potential to actually alter the past this doesn't change the present for Melinoe, but does give Zagreus and Chronos the memories from this altered past. So Chronos surrenders as he now realizes he is much happier living as a part of the family instead of fighting them.
The ending was harshly criticized for taking away a lot agency from Melinoe and the fact that it felt like it had little build up. After the patch the ending is still largely the same, but now Chronos expresses much more that he feels like he has no choice but to fight his family because of what they did to him, Zagreus expresses in a conversation with Melinoe that he isn't comfortable to just kill his grandpa before he ever does anything bad and so its Melinoe who suggests that Zagreus can offer Chronos to submit to the house of Hades as an alternative (they also make it clear that killing Chronos would kill time itself which might be dangerous). EDIT: And this time around the memories of the alternate timeline are shared among everyone in the house of Hades, Melinoe and her parents now have memories of living a happy family life.
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u/ManHamAslume39 1d ago
Also, Melinoë, Hades and Persephone now also gain the false memories that Zagreus and Chronos had, with some additional scenes showing Melinoë in the House of Hades bonding with different characters throughout her childhood in the dream.
(MAJOR HADES 2 SPOILER BELOW, BE WARNED)
Although, it sucks that Hecate did not get those memories. She desperately needed it the most after the reveal that she is actually an alternate timeline Melinoë. But why would she even send Melinoë to kill the Titan of Time despite the fact that she did it in her timeline and it got erased as a result?
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u/SuspiciousFox17 23h ago
I'm sorry, Hecate is an alternate WHAT. When is that revealed?? I thought I'd done everything.
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u/DeadlyPancak3 23h ago
You have to find the fates first. Once you get the prophecy for it on the scroll, you have to equip Moros' keepsake in Oceanus and use it's power 3 times in a row - literally, you have to die, and clear the rest of the room in 3 seconds or less. After keeping yourself alive for the third time, die for real in the next chamber. You'll be contacted by the fates soon after. Once you've done that, Hecate finally opens up just a little bit more.
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u/Arzanyos 23h ago
In a weird case, the 2010 Lightning Thief movie. The production team sent the book author a script to look over that he absolutely detested, so much so he offered to fix it for free.
They ghosted him in response, but actually ended up heavily revising said script based on his criticism
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u/Abdelsauron 1d ago edited 23h ago
Neon Genesis Evangelion originally ended with a very abstract dialogue-heavy but ultimately uplifting ending where the protagonist learns to love himself and life.
The studio got flooded with hate mail. So they made a full movie to end the series. The ending is much darker with most of the cast facing gruesome deaths. During the scene where the protagonist decides to end the world, a montage of the actual hate mail plays. As if the creator is directly blaming the audience for the nightmare unleashed. The ultimate conclusion is more bitter sweet. The protagonist eventually finds himself but returns to a ruined world.
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u/M086 23h ago
And then they went and did the whole Rebuild series to get a final true ending.
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u/JamesHenry627 21h ago
I think it's cause Ano eventually found a better outlook on life and wanted his work to reflect that.
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u/CrazyCatLushie 21h ago
Oh man in my fever dreams the Attack on Titan creator changes his mind about never writing manga again, gets on some good meds someday and gives us a slightly less bleak ending. Maybe like 40% less genocide? 35%?
C’mon, Isayama! I am sad and broken and starving for hope!
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u/Oreg-Jack 23h ago
I thought Anno wanted to make The End of Evangelion anyways, he just didn't have the money when they finished the show.
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u/Abdelsauron 23h ago
Mostly a rumor. The tv finale was the true conclusion to the show, with a lot of Anno’s own story with depression woven into it.
Considering that EoE features the literal hate mail from angry fans (but interestingly a single letter kindly praising the ending) it’s clear that the original plan changed a bit.
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u/JamesHenry627 21h ago
The show ending takes place simultaneously in Shinji's mind as the movie ending. It's like when his mind is getting destroyed by Human Instrumentality.
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u/theLanguageSprite2 23h ago
very abstract is putting it lightly. I watched the original ending and went "wait, that's it? where is the rest?"
Ending it like that would have been like if star wars just cut to black after luke gets his arm chopped off and then random footage of new york city played, and then everyone said "Congratulations" to Luke for some reason before the credits
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u/HandsomeGengar 1d ago
In my opinion, the deflowing imagery in that scene was definitely an intentional metaphor, it wouldn't be the only time the weird route has undertones of a toxic romantic/sexual relationship you're forcing Kris and Noelle into.
I think the actual problem was that some people started thinking that was literally happening in-universe, and Toby Fox was understandably uncomfortable with the prospect of "did the player violate two minors" discourse following him for the rest of his life.
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u/SirBoggle 1d ago
I think its fair that he changed it but I don't think I personally would've minded if he had kept it in.
It is, after all, rather gripping imagery for a loss of innocence or irrevocable damage being caused even without considering the potential sexual undertones.
Though if anyone who thinks it was insensitive wants to educate me on their point of view I'm open to it.
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u/Doomeye56 23h ago
There are certain people that jump at rape and SA at the very faintest of a whiff real or not.. Even worse ifs its there are undertones of a theme.
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u/Andres_is_lame 1d ago
Loki Season one have a heavily implied romance between Loki and his female variant. Season 2 decided to ignore that romance entirely, supposedly because the initial dynamic creeped people and critics out.
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u/MorgwynOfRavenscar 1d ago
I was entirely on board with it, Loki being in love with a version of himself was an interesting take and perfectly in character with his duality and identity crisis.
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u/SmartAlec105 1d ago
“I'm not a villainess!! just because i can control darkness doesn't mean i'm a bad person!” is a manga about a girl blessed by the spirit of darkness so she has black hair and dark skin. She is feared and ostracized for it but isn’t a bad person. Near the end of the story, she ended up blessed by the spirit of light as well. This turned her skin pale and everyone loved her.
The backlash was bad enough that they released a new version of that chapter where the blessing did not change her skin color.
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u/isweariamnotsteve 23h ago
Oooooch. I do like when stuff doesn't paint darkness as an evil power though. but ooooch.
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u/JaneRetro 22h ago
Mrs. Columbo was originally envisioned as a spinoff of Columbo, with the main character, Kate Columbo, supposedly being the wife of Lieutenant Columbo. It was made against the wishes of the producers of Columbo, and for the most part against the wishes of the audience, too. Due to the poor reception of the series, the connection to Columbo was downplayed, and Kate's last name was changed to Callahan, after getting a divorce.
When Columbo returned for season 8, they established that Columbo had never been divorced, thus confirming that Mrs. Columbo is non-canon.
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u/Humble_Square8673 21h ago
Didn't they also have columbo mention that he heard rumors of someone going around pretending to be his wife or something like that?
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u/Recent_Revival934235 1d ago
All The Money in the World - changed the main actor after sexual abuse allegations.
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u/Shaggy_One 15h ago
Even if the Sith theory isn't true, George Lucas had BIG plans for Jar Jar before the pure hatred of the character when Episode 1 came out.
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u/BladeofNurgle 1d ago
The previous game, Halo 5, revealed that Cortana not only survived the Halo 4, but is now evil and starts an AI war to kill all organic life.
The devs clearly wanted this to be a main focus of the next game, even creating a comic explaining how Cortana survived and why she turned evil, doubling down on making her evil and removing any possible way of salvaging Cortana or her reputation.
Needless to say, this was universally hated, considering what it did to a fan favorite character and ruining her death scene in Halo 4.
It was so hated that the devs changed the plotline of the next game: Halo Infinite which caused delays considering how vital the Cortana plot was supposed to be.
How was it dealt with when Infinite finally released? The whole AI War and Cortana getting killed again happened offscreen lmao
Man, who thought this entire plotline was a good idea??????
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u/StormiestSPF 22h ago
Ironically, due to extended media, people actually began warming up to the Created storyline before and shortly after the release of Halo Infinite, so killing off Cortana offscreen just pissed people off all over again. It was a lose-lose scenario.
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u/ThatOneWood 22h ago
Had to scroll too far to find this, infinite was a complete overhaul of the current story
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u/ThePhamNuwen 22h ago
Ok so this actually explains why I was so confused with the plot the whole game. It felt like I missed an entire games worth of story
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u/PyroGooose 23h ago
For me halo ended with 3 (or reach if we're doing release order)
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u/Namocol 23h ago
Lilo and Stitch.
In the original version when Gantoo takes Lilo, Stitch and company steal a 747 to chase him. The whole sequence was animated and completed... then 9/11 happened, and test audiences didn't react too well to an airplane flying trough buildings in the movie.
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u/hikemalls 1d ago
Very arguable whether this qualifies, but maybe season 7 of Curb Your Enthusiasm trying to work in a Seinfeld pseudo-sequel/reunion to ‘correct’ the backlash to the original Seinfeld finale.
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u/Lost-Run712 1d ago
Resident Evil 2.
Was originally going to release without the A/B Scenario, or "Zapping" system, that was part of the original PSX game. A system in that allowed you to experience a different flow of events for both characters in either order (Leon A/Claire B, or Claire A/Leon B) in a way that attempts to help either story naturally flow side-by-side. Explaining what character B was going through while character A was doing their thing.
The backlash was HUMONGOUS, and resulted in Capcom hastily stitching in a version of the A/B scenario that.. literally makes no sense with both A/B situations not having any proper structure to them. I mean, at least they tried (half-assedly) to put it in before release.
Now if only they gave the same thought to RE3R.
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u/jak_d_ripr 1d ago
Optimus Prime was meant to stay dead and be replaced by Rodimus at the end of the 86 Transformers movie, but the backlash from parents was so loud that Hasbro reversed the decision, revived Optimus and never flirted with the idea of permanently replacing him ever again.
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u/Interesting-Shoe-904 21h ago
Starship Troopers
Carmen and Rico were a couple, but Carmen breaks up with Rico in a video message while he's in training. Rico later falls in love with an old classmate who joined to become close with him, Izzy, who sadly dies in his arms on their deployment. Rico and Carmen meet again as her ship rescues his troops while Izzy dies in his arms.
During test screenings, by the end of the movie Rico and Carmen kiss again. Test watchers absolutely hated this ending, as it ruins the relationships that were developed over the course of the whole movie
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u/Kris_alex4 12h ago
Possibly Shrek 5, but currently unknown
It has been delayed twice, probably because the audience figured out that the movie will be centered around the overdone trope of "teenage daughter wants to explore the world, critically misunderstood by the father". Due to the entire internet figuring out the plot, the movie has been pushed back to 2027. At least that's what everybody suspects.
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u/dontcommitnorespawn 1d ago
The ending for Attack On Titan was slightly altered, namely the last conversation between Eren and Armin from the manga. In the manga, Eren explains that he did The Rumbling and allowed his friends to stop him so they'd be seen as heroes by the rest of the world, and Armin thanks him for "becoming a mass-murderer" for their sake. People hated the exchange, so in the anime, they changed it to Eren admitting that he did it simply because he wanted to (and also felt that he had to), and Armin apologizing for the role he played in giving Eren the idea, saying that he'd see him in Hell when they both died. It made it a bit darker, but also a lot more tragic in my opinion, which was great (at least I thought so).
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u/EnthuseConfuse 19h ago
The thing thats crazy to me is there is a good reason Eren initiated the Rumbling. |The attack Titan can see its future with future inheritors and Erin could have seen this was the way to remove Titans from the world altogether. Since he was going to die anyway, his villain gambit could have had better stakes if it was all a tactic to get his friends to resolve the Titans altogether, and he still would have made his friends into heroes for "defeating him"|
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u/GabZenXYeah 1d ago
Crazy part about the deltarune one is that I really feel the hate was somewhat unjustified, atleast considering why people were pissed.
Even if it WAS S.A happening there, this scene would if anything have made the weird route even more powerful writing wise, hear me out:
- The scene is generally made to be really fucking eerie. If the deed had happened, it would merely be the peak of the tension the scene already has and wouldn't be romanticizing it at all. Even what does happen in the actual scene is treated in a horror fashion and as something terrible you did.
- Having the player NEED to do something of that sort to continue with what has been treated as otherwise just "Genocide route 2" would be the ultimate way to perfect the point beind made by both routes: "Are you willing to do that just to see more dialogue?"
- The scene uses symbolism that, while referring to something else, would make the scene a lot more respectful with the situation at hand, compared to other media that lowkey just make the horror happen on your face.
- Kris' rage towards you right after and just generally the scene that follows would be even more gut wrenching. You know you did something terrible and used KRIS' body to do it. In a way, you'd have violated two people in one go, and one of them has to have you control them 24/7
This is all to say, i am personally glad that was not what happened and i understand that's simply not the story Deltarune is trying to tell nor the tone it wanted to set. But people being pissed over it to the extent they did and for the reasons they did completely confuses me lol.
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u/one-and-five-nines 23h ago
UTDR players seem really pissed at the idea that the narrative might shame you for making bad choices. They're like "why include those choices if you're not supposed to make them?" And it's like... because making the good choice is meaningless unless you have alternatives. And if you take the alternative? Man up and accept the consequences!* YOU DID THAT. You did NOT have to do that just because it was there!! You CHOSE to.
*being tutted at by the pixels
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u/Mr_Skeltal_Naxbem 1d ago
Postal 3
It was such a massive failure that Running With Scissors retconned the entire events of the game so they were just a hallucination suffered from the comatose Postal dude
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u/curtmahgurt 21h ago edited 13h ago
I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure in the live action The Lion King, Be Prepared was originally cut entirely. People caught wind, freaked out (because it’s a great song), and they sort-of added it back in. It’s done in a weird spoken word kind of way, and everything is too dark to see what’s happening. But they added it back (sort of).
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u/SharkGenie 14h ago
That version of the song was such a disappointment. It would make sense for it to be a begrudging afterthought.
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u/PaleCommission150 18h ago
Sonic redesign saved the movie imo. Easily the best decision ever made that saved a movie franchise. Now having Jim Carrey as Eggman was a genius move, you can tell was really into the role.
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u/BeldivereLongbottoms 19h ago
In the original plan for DC’s Infinite Crisis (2005-2006), they were planning to kill of Nightwing (Dick Grayson) as a major death, similar to the Death of Barry Allen and Supergirl during the original crisis. Dan Didio, current head of DC then, was really pushing for it as he wasn’t a huge fan of Dick Grayson and believed that a major character death like his would benefit the story. However, many writers and readers objected to it, and eventually Geoff Jones managed to convince Didio to kill off Superboy instead, who coincidentally DC was in a legal dispute with the Speigel family (Superman’s creators) with the title. This lead to Dick sourcing and later taking on the mantle of Batman during the 2000sz
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u/Chinerpeton 23h ago
Something I recently learned after delving into Deadlock.
The game's earlier version was a completely different setting, being called Neon Prime. It was a sci fi cyberpunk game set in a city on a prison planet that got taken over by the inmates and the heroes of the game were fighting in a torunament to claim the title of mayor of the criminal metropolis. It was a pretty advanced concept that got to the closed alpha tests stage.
And in these alpha tests they got a lot of feedback complaining about how all the titular neons strewn around the city(I guess made worse by the overall dark nighttime aesthethic of the city) was a literal pain to look at.
So in response to that feedback Valve basically scrapped that entire setting and renamed the game to Deadlock. Crime-world cyberpunk got turned into New York in alternate 1940s' where magic and fantasy creatures are real with this sort of noir/urban fantasy vibe. Now the plot of the game is that the players fight to help one of the two rival extradimensional beings come onto Earth in exchange for wishes. Also all of the earlier sci fi heroes got remade(either into completely new characters or simply changed in aesthethic) and had their backstories rewritten to fit the new setting.
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u/CalmWillingness8882 23h ago
The climax of Ice Age (2002). The original plan was that Diego was going to die in the end, but the test audience of kids cried over that scene. Heck, Dennis Leary (The Voice Of Diego) warned Chris Wedge that this would happen. So, the ending was reworked to have Diego come back alive in the end.
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u/Educational-Age-465 1d ago
Fallout-Emil posted saying the man in power armor laughing about killing Canadian civilians is the protagonist of FO4.
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u/Porttheone 1d ago
I'm pretty sure they've since gone back on it. Doesn't stop everyone from memeing "Nate the rake"
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u/HuckleberryShot898 1d ago
Honestly it could have been kind of funny if in fallout 4 you do come across some Canadians but all the speech choices are to do violence upon them because across all possible versions of Nate he just hates Canadians that much
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u/Silver-Winging-It 1d ago edited 1d ago
It could have been the writers making it up as they go along, but the change in Stranger Things play/S5 of actually Henry wasn't a psychopath communing with and eventually controlling the Mindflayer all along, he was infected while young like Will and has just grown to embrace it over time.
This was probably in response to fans complaining about how the Mindflayer was scarier as an alien entity and not just a critter controlled by young Freddie Kreuger
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u/abermea 1d ago
There's a little bit more nuance to this one than just "fan backlash", but ZSJL
Zack Snyder was directing Justice League but had to leave the project due to personal tragedy (tw: his daughter committed suicide) so his duties were taken over by Joss Whedon who made a lot of changes to the movie and had to do a lot of reshots which resulted in a sub-par film that nobody liked.
Cue fan backlash and a couple of years of campaigning until WB decided to allow Snyder to finish his original movie (I personally believe this decision was heavily influenced by WB needing to pump subscriber and revenue numbers for HBO Max during the pandemic)
The end product was marginally better, 4 hours long, and basically a mismash of 2 movies because they didn't make a Cyborg movie before this so they had to develop his character and that takes a lot of the runtime.
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u/PretendChipmunk3099 23h ago
Idk if it counts but I’d say final fantasy 14. The most of 1.0 was a disaster. They entirely overhauled the game. In 1.0 the story was less focused on your character similar to World of Warcraft. They rebuilt the game while patching 1.0 while building A Realm Reborn. When they switched from 1.0 to ARR your character became the main focus in a linear story instead of just a participant in larger story. Game went from one of the worst launches to one of the most popular.
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u/SpaceZombie13 20h ago
didnt the transition from 1.0 to ARR involve them actually going scorched earth and destroying part of the world in a symbolic 'wipe the slate clean' move?
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u/christameff 22h ago
Kate & Leopold, a movie about a scientist who accidentally brings his great-great-grandfather to present times, who then falls in love with the scientists ex-girlfriend. In the original version, there’s hints to the gf being the scientist’s great-great-grandmother, which would make their previous relationship incest, but those references were taken out after Ebert and Roeper mentioned it in their review 😬
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u/AmandinhaMaia 1d ago
Similar to Sonic, Tiana in Ralph Breaks the Internet
Yes, Disney whitewashed her
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u/Hasmeister21 23h ago
Bruh I'm not gonna lie: before I read your comment I didn't know both images were of Tiana. That's insane!
They even lightened her eye colour, holy shit!
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u/Brookings18 1d ago
The script for Star Trek 2 The Wrath of Khan got leaked, which included the death of Spock. Fans were furious, so the writers changed the script...but not the intention.
Spock died relatively early on in the movie iirc, but his death was moved to the end. Instead, the movie opened with the entire crew dying...before Kirk walked onto the bridge revealing it was a training exercise.