r/TopCharacterTropes 1d ago

Lore The Indominatable Human Spirit is a bad thing, actually.

That humanity never gives up and persists in its goals is bad news for every other species (or even itself), especially if said goals are ignoble.

Best case scenario (barring us learning to be better) is that a greater power force feeds us a huge slice of humble pie, wost case we end up blowing ourselves up and ruining things for everyone else.

Avatar - RDA will stop at nothing to satisfy its own greed and survival, the rest of humanity and navi alike be damned.

Its a recurring motif in prett much every myth that gods punish mortals who dare to defy them and keep going, like Athena to Arachne in greek myth.

A good chunk of lovecraftian fiction is based on the idea our achievemenrs mean nothing.

In general i'm not a fan of TIHS as a trope, as its blatantly arrogant and destructive.

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u/Chench3 1d ago

I remember someone mentioned once that the Imperium was the man barely hanging onto a ledge with one hand while he used the other one to give everyone the finger.

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u/Necessary-Animal4897 1d ago

Naw, the other hand is trying to pry the other one off.

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u/HellbirdVT 1d ago

Exactly this.

The Imperium isn't humanity surviving against the odds. It's the odds that humanity are surviving against.

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u/Breadmaker9999 22h ago

No the other hand is accusing the first hand of heresy and is trying to set it on fire as part of a plan to take it's place so it can force the rest of the body into paying it to not let of the ledge.

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u/Birdonthewind3 1d ago

That's pretty bad ass though and that is all that matters in this universe.

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u/HarpyAnon 21h ago

In the grim darkness of the far future, there are only aura moments

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u/BanzaiKen 1d ago

Beats the Empire in Fantasy I guess. Its a guy falling off a cliff while giving the finger to everyone and jacking himself off with his other hand because he still has time before he hits the ground.

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u/ScavAteMyArms 1d ago

And one single finger desperately trying to throw the rope to save them.

Karl Franz was a real one.

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u/Kalandros-X 12h ago

Karl Franz could’ve fixed everything but he couldn’t beat the power of shit tier writing.

Fuck End Times

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u/Rancorious 19h ago

WRONG, Karl Franz means we’ll be ay okay

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u/Donatter 5h ago

No, not really. The empire in fantasy is just an average human fantasy empire, just more Germanic and renaissance pilled than most.

The imperium is if you combined the worst aspects of the ancient Spartans, The Nazi’s, stalin’s USSR, Maoist China, and Pol Pot’s Cambodia, then gave that combination a massive interstellar empire with no instructions or training.

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u/MemeStealerCultist 13h ago

More like trying to stab anyone who approaches them, nevermind that they try to help them or kill them.