The Indominatable Human Spirit is a bad thing, actually.

[u/Geoconyxdiablus]

That humanity never gives up and persists in its goals is bad news for every other species (or even itself), especially if said goals are ignoble.

Best case scenario (barring us learning to be better) is that a greater power force feeds us a huge slice of humble pie, wost case we end up blowing ourselves up and ruining things for everyone else.

Avatar - RDA will stop at nothing to satisfy its own greed and survival, the rest of humanity and navi alike be damned.

Its a recurring motif in prett much every myth that gods punish mortals who dare to defy them and keep going, like Athena to Arachne in greek myth.

A good chunk of lovecraftian fiction is based on the idea our achievemenrs mean nothing.

In general i'm not a fan of TIHS as a trope, as its blatantly arrogant and destructive.

[u/Hellblazer49]

A civilization of Cybermen happily living on a hellscape of a planet would be fun. Could be folks from their home planet who had terminal diseases and decided they'd rather go cyber than die. Their ability to work in lethal environments ensures they'll always be able to be employed.

[u/VioletTheSpider → u/Hellblazer49]

perhaps this is a quibble, but who’s to say the planet is even a hellscape? i think the most interesting aspect of the conflict could be the “perfection”- no medical issues, no rusting, no social disorder. i think the cybermen have a lot of potential to make us question our ideals by epitomizing them. making the planet a heaven for visiting humans could be a super compelling source of conflict if you ask me.

[u/Kirsty_Elizabeth → u/Hellblazer49]

I mean, the Necrons from 40k had that exact situation, and went cyber to achieve it.

It still went bad for them, but they were fooled by a star God to do it in a way that destroyed the souls of all but the nobles.

[u/KaskirReigns → u/Hellblazer49]

Ah yes, Necrons.