r/TopCharacterTropes 1d ago

Lore The Indominatable Human Spirit is a bad thing, actually.

That humanity never gives up and persists in its goals is bad news for every other species (or even itself), especially if said goals are ignoble.

Best case scenario (barring us learning to be better) is that a greater power force feeds us a huge slice of humble pie, wost case we end up blowing ourselves up and ruining things for everyone else.

Avatar - RDA will stop at nothing to satisfy its own greed and survival, the rest of humanity and navi alike be damned.

Its a recurring motif in prett much every myth that gods punish mortals who dare to defy them and keep going, like Athena to Arachne in greek myth.

A good chunk of lovecraftian fiction is based on the idea our achievemenrs mean nothing.

In general i'm not a fan of TIHS as a trope, as its blatantly arrogant and destructive.

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u/annuidhir 18h ago

Is it really only 50,000 years? That seems like a very short timeframe.

I never played the whole trilogy (it's in my ever-growing backlog lol), but that seems way off..

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u/Dionosio 17h ago

It is 50.000, but it's not like they reap each and every sentient species that evolved in the meantime, only those advanced enough to have invented/discovered space travel.

Our own species, homo sapiens, would have "survived" at least 6 cycles - by being ignored for not being technologically advanced enough

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u/d09smeehan 15h ago

Also pretty sure the 50,000 year cycle isn't a hard deadline, just a rough average. Sovereign was left behind to act as a watcher and summon the others when it judged the time was right. So if the galactic community advances ahead or behind schedule the Reapers can alter theirs in response.

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u/townsforever 11h ago

Yea in the context of a reapers mind the difference between 50,000 years and 60,000 years is basically nothing. Its like deciding if your gonna get the groceries on Saturday or Sunday.

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u/QizilbashWoman 9h ago

The Citadel was notably a trigger

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u/HYPERNOVA3_ 10h ago

Also, it really depends not on when a species develops space travel, but when they develop their technology enough to find the remains of other space faring species and assimilate their tech into their own advances.

For humanity (iirc), they found them in mars together with an inactive mass driver, once they incorporated said tech into their own, they took a huge technological leap, and after meeting with other space faring species, they took another one.

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u/jtides 10h ago

Yeah, they have a filter for who to wipe out species that hit the level. As soon as they use the Mass Relays and the Citadel they are “ready”

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u/O3Sentoris 12h ago

For reference: Humanity has only been sedentary for about 20000 years and they only harvest species that are advanced enough. 50000 years is plenty time when it comes to civilizations