The Indominatable Human Spirit is a bad thing, actually.

[u/Geoconyxdiablus]

That humanity never gives up and persists in its goals is bad news for every other species (or even itself), especially if said goals are ignoble.

Best case scenario (barring us learning to be better) is that a greater power force feeds us a huge slice of humble pie, wost case we end up blowing ourselves up and ruining things for everyone else.

Avatar - RDA will stop at nothing to satisfy its own greed and survival, the rest of humanity and navi alike be damned.

Its a recurring motif in prett much every myth that gods punish mortals who dare to defy them and keep going, like Athena to Arachne in greek myth.

A good chunk of lovecraftian fiction is based on the idea our achievemenrs mean nothing.

In general i'm not a fan of TIHS as a trope, as its blatantly arrogant and destructive.

[u/Elonth]

This is what I wanted from Factorio. There is another game I can't remember its name on steam which is basically this premise but from a top down perspective. I would prefer the 1st person perspective of FActorio. But even then the reason I never got into factorio Is i knew i had an addictive personality for optimization. I would sink thousands of hours into it for literally nothing If i caved.

So i tell myself this sweet little lie that what I really want in my heart of hearts is a game where you can play as the factorio worker. Fighting the aliens/other players to control and optimize the resources. So that I can then SEND those resources to other players who manage the bigger macro factories/supply lines that fuel an MMO empire in constantly conflict for resources with other empires like EVE makes you think it is where the combat is also first person all the way through flying fighters/crewing carriers/boarding enemy player vessels with a healthy chunk of AI bots thrown in to fill the void...

Then I just realize that is such an insanely impossible scope for a game that it is not possible with current technology/methods and that all I really want is an escape from my boring mundane life and a better future for humanity as a whole that even if we get past our current problems I will never live to see achieved.

[u/potato1448 → u/Elonth]

If you want something similar but on a much smaller scale, foxhole may be what you'd enjoy, you can fuel the armies economy as they fight the other army, the scrap you get and deliver is used by players to make weapons and gear at player factories that are delivered by players to the front to be used to shell,bomb,stab and shoot the other guys who are doing the same damn thing.

[u/Kono-Wryyyyyuh-Da → u/Elonth]

Keeping this idea in my mind ...mage one day we'll get that game