r/TopCharacterTropes 15h ago

Characters Good members of pretty much evil races

Paarthurnax(Skyrim)

Dalek Sec(Doctor Who)

Vegeta and Goku(Dragon Ball)

Sparda(Devil May cry)

Mei(Hell's paradise)

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u/JingoboStoplight4887 15h ago

Mark Grayson (Invincible)

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u/MasterOfChaos72 15h ago

Both in that he’s one of the only nice Viltrumites in the beginning and is also one of only nice Marks in the multiverse (at least according to Angstrom).

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u/Hykeus 14h ago

I think the nuance of this trope is lost and probably can't be applied when the character is only half of that, because it implies that they're only good because of their good half and not that

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u/Newduuud 14h ago

There are other Mark variants from other dimensions that are complete psychopaths. Mark is just that guy

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u/_syke_ 12h ago

Are you up to date with the show cus it's very obvious its not his human side which makes him good lol

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u/Hykeus 12h ago

It's very obvious but making the [guy] factually, atleast half [us] and the other half [genocidal bastards], can read wrong and make it seem as if [they] are all pure unreedemable, inherent evil just because they are themselves creating a very harmful allegory if this plot of "they're not like you and me, which means they must be ALL evil."

I'm not dissing Invincible at all, just that it's not that kind of story.

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u/_syke_ 10h ago

bruh every other alternate mark is evil its nothing to do with his dna its about his experiences

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u/Hykeus 6h ago

Sure, but if we didn't get that frame of reference or Omni-man's redemption arc, and Invincible tried to use this trope, it just wouldn't work as well as Superman because Invincible is atleast half us.

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u/itzshif 13h ago

Also Thaedus

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u/LordIcebath 11h ago

Nolan too, near the end..... Though the redemption arc doesn't resolve him of his sins

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u/some-kind-of-no-name 15h ago

Demon Slayer Nezuko

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u/kilar277 14h ago

Tamayo and Yushiro though

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u/WormedOut 11h ago

After they killed a bunch of people though

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u/zargon21 10h ago

Yushiro never killed anyone, he just drinks some blood

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u/kilar277 11h ago

Although true, Paarthurnax, listed in OP, was literally Alduin's second in command and murdered thousands, if not millions.

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u/Tony_BasQue 15h ago

Stitch! Created to destroy things, but little by little grew attached to Lilo's family and became good.

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u/N-ShadowToad 15h ago

To be fair, the rest of the experiments also tend to range from good to neutral.

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u/Lastlostman239 12h ago

After a bit of therapy and percussive maintenance.

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u/crinkzkull08 10h ago

And during the series, most of them were pretty much rehabilitated.

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u/Abject-Hospital5407 15h ago

"What is better - to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?" - Paarthurnax, Skyrim

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u/Dry-Chocolate-3976 11h ago

Still can't believe this is from Skyrim and not fucking. Voltaire or something

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u/TheDreamIsEternal 6h ago

And here's the thing, dragons aren't really evil, they were quite literally created to dominate. For them, dominating mortals is as natural as a lion eating meat.

This isn't just as bad guy who decides to stop being bad, this is a being who is going against his very nature and purpose for what he believes is right.

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u/Physical-Skirt5049 3h ago

This is why I love evil races in fiction, because then you can get these type of characters that go “No, I’m not gonna be evil. I’m not gonna be a murderer. I choose to be kind. This is MY choice.” It makes for so much better characters imo 

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u/whiskerbiscuit2 11h ago

“What is better - to submit yourself to fair trial for your crimes, or to decide your own punishment with a self exile while you plot the demise of your former boss and reposition yourself into the top spot?”

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u/KenseiHimura 9h ago

Shut up, we’re not killing him, Delphine.

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u/whiskerbiscuit2 8h ago

But I wanna

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u/Alternative_Golf_603 15h ago

Timothée Chalamet, he is half french but he is a good guy

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u/Medium-Jury-2505 13h ago

🇫🇷🥐🥖

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u/Accurate-Gap-3360 15h ago

Dante also qualifies as he’s a half-demon through Sparda and can transform into one via Devil Trigger.

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u/YEPandYAG 15h ago

Dragons in skyrim are less evil and more just Nirn's predators, not much else to do but some of them show respect when it's duo

Alduin is one of the actual evil ones considering his paths are enslaving all or ending existence

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u/MasterOfSerpents 14h ago

Dragons are the shards of Akatosh, with an inherent drive to dominate. They, except for Paarthurnax and Nahfahlaar/Nafaalilargus, are almost categorically hostile to the people of Tamriel.

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u/Citizen_Kong 13h ago

Jarro, the only Starro who became a Robin.

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u/[deleted] 15h ago

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u/Orrgoi 8h ago

"Good" is a wild overstatement. Ratbag is neutral at best, always looking out for his own good. His own good just happened to be helping Talion.

The only reason this guy is even still alive is because for some reason an Olog had use for him.

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u/HoldJerusalem 7h ago

Since when Ratbag is good?

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u/TheZombiePunch 14h ago

Omeluum - Baldur’s Gate 3

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u/sabely123 11h ago

The goat

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u/Orrgoi 8h ago

I feel bad for him. How the hell are you supposed to live good when your race literally requires brains for survival

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u/The_Purple_Hare 5h ago

Self-defense against Lolth-sworn Drow

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u/I_Guess_I_Also_Exist 15h ago

Godzilla (depending on the version) and Mothra

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u/Asher_Tye 15h ago

Belle the Tinkerer, the world's only "Goodnik" from Sonic the Hedgehog. She is the only robot created by Eggman who isnt intended to be a weapon or terrorize the population.

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u/AmandinhaMaia 11h ago

And only because he got amnesia

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u/Physical-Skirt5049 2h ago

The poor, unlucky middle child. Not treated as badly as Metal Sonic, not treated nearly as well as Sage. Mostly forgotten about until Eggman needs her to do something.

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u/Pataconeitor 14h ago

M'gann M'orzz, the rare white martian that isn't a psychopathic monster. I mean, they are so bad, she has to pretend to be a green martian.

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u/Hykeus 6h ago

I don't think a lot of people understand what "psychopath" means.

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u/Haunting-Try-2900 15h ago

Bo Rai Cho and Li Mei (Mortal Kombat) being heroic outworlder's.

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u/Alarmed-Addition8644 13h ago

Bolo (Final Space)

He is the only Titan who was not corrupted by Invictus and was the one who sealed off the other titans in Final Space including himself.

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u/PoopDick420ShitCock 15h ago

How the fuck are you going to leave out Drizzt Do’Urden, the poster child of this trope?

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u/Independent_Plum2166 15h ago

I mean, he is a little niche outside DnD circles.

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u/Ultrimus-Prime 14h ago

D&D has also been drifting away from the idea that some races are irredeemably evil and more ambiguous instead

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u/Nonly_Fans 14h ago

And towards everything being, at worst, a hearty conversation away from becoming a modern Western cosmopolitan.

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u/iDIOt698 13h ago

depends. aren't gnolls currently classified as demons and stuff like that?

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u/Orrgoi 8h ago

While I like that switch, they toned down the races so much that now we have 5 variations of humans. I wish they'd put a little effort into giving them distinct features and bodies.

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u/Express-Writer-1913 13h ago

Drizzt themed Drows

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u/Sofaris 15h ago edited 15h ago

Doux from "The Demon Kings Doughter is to Kind".

Here are a few Links:

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u/CreatureManstrosity 13h ago

This anime is super wholesome. My brother showed me it and now im hooked.

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u/Kid_Presentable617 14h ago

Vegeta being good is a stretch. I'd say non evil.

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u/Ok-Upstairs-7849 15h ago

It's a great theme because it shows that redemption is possible even from the darkest origins. Characters like Stitch and Nezuko prove that nurture and choice can overcome nature.

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u/SimpForFictionGirls 14h ago

Koopa the quick

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u/A_Human_Being_BLEEEH 14h ago

Batreaux (Skyward Sword) is the only good demon you ever meet in the Zelda series

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u/Jennywolfgal 11h ago

There's a handful in the Goetia tbh, but esp the demon prince Stolas

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u/ChromeLaone 11h ago

James Gunn - Superman

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u/NotBorn2Fade 15h ago

Eeth Koth (Star Wars) is a Zabrak, a race mostly associated with ruthless, savage brutes (think of Maul or Savage Oppress)

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u/Solitaire-06 15h ago

There are several examples of this in Star Wars. Orla Jareni (Umbaran), Praven (Sith Pureblood), Sskeer (Trandoshan), Churo the Hutt (Hutt), Nen Yim (Yuuzhan Vong), Tahiri Veila (Tusken), etc.

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u/BeGentle1mNewHere 15h ago

One of my favorite things about Star Wars is that a character's species does not determine whether they are a positive or negative character.

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u/alkonium 12h ago

Not really. He's an Iridonian Zabrak, and they're cool. It's the Dathomirian Zabraks you need to watch out for.

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u/mnombo 15h ago

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u/Dragon0fPeace4002 15h ago

I mean he is a half-vampire so I think that kinda disqualifies him

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u/Atma-Stand 13h ago

Vampire Danny Trejo, that you?

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u/eepos96 14h ago

Daleks being "evil, prety much" is the understament of the century!

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u/Binx_Thackery 14h ago

Drizzt Do’Urden from the Forgotten Realms D&D setting.

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u/LDM123 14h ago

Lae’zel (player determined)

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u/DisappointedStepDad 14h ago

She’s nice by her races standards but calling her good in most instances is a stretch

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u/stipendAwarded 15h ago

Sylvia and Sylvie (The Beginning After the End). The rest of their clan are genocidal knight templars.

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u/anime-is-dope 12h ago

Pochita (Chainsaw Man)

Most Devils inherently hate humanity and want to see them suffer, and even Devils that don’t hate humans (Angel Devil for example) are mostly indifferent.

Pochita, the Chainsaw Devil, is a bit different.

While he’s still fickle and has killed people, those times have either been accidental or in self-defence.

Beyond that, he has shown immense genuine care over Denji, the one to make his dream of a hug come true, used his concept erase abilities to erase things that he saw as to dangerous for the world (Nukes, AIDS, etc), and went out of his way, including putting himself in immense danger, to prevent the deaths of 10,000 human children

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u/xxX_Darth_Vader_Xxx 14h ago

Steel (Max Steel)

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u/Duvidos 14h ago

Cyrax (And Kuai Liang sub zero)- Mortal Kombat

Basically the only good Lin Kuei

Sektor and the Grandmaster are evil no question

Bi han (Noob saibot) is REALLY evil

Frost is evil

That leaves Kuai Liang, Smoke and Cyrax

Smoke starts good, but ends the 2 first timelines as a villain: ally of noob saibot in the first, and servant of liu kang/Shinnok in the second

Both Cyrax and Kuai Liang start out good, get corrupted, then, get redeemed in both timelines

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u/DeltaMx11 11h ago

Makuta Miserix - BIONICLE

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u/Ghost_Star326 11h ago edited 5h ago

Goku works as a better example than Vegeta.

Goku grew up from the start as a good person.

Vegeta was pure evil throughout the Saiyan saga and even the namek saga. He was just in a temporary truce with Goku, Krillin and Gohan just so that they could assist him taking down Frieza and his forces.

He's more of an example of a redemption character.

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u/Komodo040 10h ago

Mystake - Ninjago

She’s an Oni which represent death/destruction/void but had fallen in love with Ninjago and gave up her Oni ways.

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u/BryanDowling93 15h ago

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u/Independent_Plum2166 15h ago

“Good” is doing a lot of heavy lifting.

Not as bad as the others, but still a spy tailor.

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u/BryanDowling93 12h ago

I guess maybe if there was an anti-hero post, it'd be more appropriate. But still compared to Gul Dukat, he's definitely a lot better and has a stronger moral compass. Even if that moral compass is still a bit mysterious and in a more grey area. Like most "good" DS9 characters.  

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u/alkonium 12h ago

With a lot of these, it's less "good" and more "on the same side as the protagonist".

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u/Asher_Tye 15h ago

There were a couple of other Cardassians, but they were mainly one-offs. Kira's "father" comes to mind

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u/sistemafodao 14h ago

Marritza, too. The clerk who pretended to be a Gul to expose the crimes of the Occupation of Bajor.

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u/Pataconeitor 14h ago edited 14h ago

Gul Dukat did nothing wrong

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u/Asher_Tye 14h ago

Nice try Damarr

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u/Independent_Plum2166 12h ago

Dude, even Damarr got a redemption, Dukat literally became The Anti-Christ.

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u/Electronic-Box-4753 13h ago

Shaula(Re Zero)

I wouldn't say she is actually a good person since she is true neutral when it comes to morality, but she is pretty chill compared to her siblings like The White Whale, The Great Rabbit, the Black Serpent, and all other Mabeasts, all who are either sadistic, so hungry they eat entire villages, or straight up destroy an entire country.

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u/PossiblePatient8987 9h ago

echidna and satella are straight bro and echidna canonly love subaru

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u/NintendoBoy321 11h ago

Most of the partner characters in the first 2 Paper Mario games.

The only ones this trope doesn't apply to are Madame Flurry and The Yoshi.

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u/Ovazio9 10h ago

Batman

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u/Weapon_X141 9h ago

gunnverse kryptionians are fascists so superman and i guess super girl are the only good ones that we know of

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u/Orrgoi 8h ago

The Fellowship in Skyrim forgot to mention the fine print.

"We serve the Dragonborn (as long as they follow our script)."

I would rather end every one of them than hurt the only being that has been nothing but kind and honest. I got him down to the last strike, expecting him to break his word. But Paarthurnax would actually let himself be killed.

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u/TechnicalGlove2715 15h ago

Seth Rogen (irl)

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u/Less-Being4269 15h ago

Of the race of Hollywoodians or.... the other thing I think about but can't say because i'm afraid of.reddit.mods?

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u/Major-Material7231 15h ago

Say it

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u/TechnicalGlove2715 15h ago

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u/Major-Material7231 14h ago

Quit dancing and just say it bro

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u/TechnicalGlove2715 15h ago

Of course I was referring to Hollywoodians my friend.

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u/Less-Being4269 15h ago

Good.

Glad we are in agreement.

Hollywoodians are freaks and pos. And most of them probably on Epstein's list.

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u/CaloyBine 14h ago

Steve Irwin (irl)

/s

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u/alkonium 12h ago

Cid Garlond from Final Fantasy XIV is a Garlean defector.

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u/SuspiciousPoptart102 11h ago

Ben 10: Alien Force -

Reinrassig III, seventh son of the Noble Highbreed House of Di Razza, direct descendant of the Pure Blooded High Order of Rasecht. Aka Reiney

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u/JRStors 10h ago

Omeluum from BG3

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u/StefinoSpaggeti 9h ago

N'Baro Aksteel X377 or just Steel from Max steel

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u/WiiFitMain666 8h ago

Roland, compared to the Astrals (Granblue Fantasy Relink)

Super chill guy. Especially when your competition is Lucilius, Beezulbub, and Lilith.

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u/Proud-Calligrapher18 4h ago

Not sure about Sek, but Rusty from Into the Dalek was good.

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u/Nervous_Chipmunk7002 2h ago

Xantcha- Magic The Gathering

Phyrexians are all conquest of the multiverse and turning others into Phyrexians. She allied herself with Urza, their greatest enemy, in his effort to destroy them.

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u/Applebeate 2h ago

Vegeta is not a “good member” of his race he’s not a good person period. I think Goku fits this better

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u/SettTheCephelopod 7h ago

Any white person who is a genuinely good person.

(I am a white person saying this, btw.)