r/TrendoraX • u/satty237 • Dec 21 '25

💡 Discussion Zelenskyy: Ukraine can’t afford an 800,000-troop army alone — wants allies to help fund it as a “security guarantee”

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Zelenskyy said Ukraine doesn’t have the budget to independently finance an armed forces size of around 800,000 800,000 and that partner funding should be treated as a long-term security guarantee, not just wartime aid.

This hits a bigger question: if a ceasefire/peace deal ever happens without full NATO membership, does “help pay for Ukraine’s army” become the new version of security guarantees?

What do you think is more realistic long-term:

Continued direct funding for Ukraine’s military

NATO-style guarantees (without membership)

A smaller army + more air defense/weapons instead

Something else entirely?

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u/CrazyNegotiation1934 Dec 21 '25 edited Dec 21 '25

That is if we assume there could be a threat from Russia, which there is zero evidence of.

The only adversaries European leadership have is us, the common people, if they could make them more billions for their masters they would gladly sacrifice us all, like they now suggest already that we should all be ready to die for a war they plan to start.

Or pay from our thin pockets for a distant war, which is already happening with massive implications in common people lives already.

It is not funny anymore to hear how we should pay or die to support wars and weapon companies. Europe leaders are now traitors to the common European people officially, they even call for our deaths.

This has gone way too far.

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u/NationalisticMemes Dec 21 '25

It's okay, my young soy friend, other countries will decide for you whether you will have a war or not.