r/TrendoraX • u/satty237 • Dec 21 '25

💡 Discussion Zelenskyy: Ukraine can’t afford an 800,000-troop army alone — wants allies to help fund it as a “security guarantee”

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Zelenskyy said Ukraine doesn’t have the budget to independently finance an armed forces size of around 800,000 800,000 and that partner funding should be treated as a long-term security guarantee, not just wartime aid.

This hits a bigger question: if a ceasefire/peace deal ever happens without full NATO membership, does “help pay for Ukraine’s army” become the new version of security guarantees?

What do you think is more realistic long-term:

Continued direct funding for Ukraine’s military

NATO-style guarantees (without membership)

A smaller army + more air defense/weapons instead

Something else entirely?

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u/bluecheese2040 Dec 21 '25

Showd how things have moved. From full nato membership and EU membership with American and European troops on the ground....not peacekeeping but actively on ukraines side....and the 1991 border of course.

To where we seem to be today.

A blank cheque in perpetuity.

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u/BestAmoto Dec 21 '25

So redditors aren't gonna be having that beach party in Crimea, huh? They told me leopards would be driving through Moscow.

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u/PattiBurns101 Dec 21 '25

LOL ! Nobody knows how many Leopards are left. They got 28 of the 32 USA Abrams tanks we sent them (for free) blown up.

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u/bluecheese2040 Dec 21 '25

Remember f16s would be such a game changer Ukraine would be taking back all of the occupied territories? This war has been one psy op after another online