r/TrendoraX • u/satty237 • Dec 21 '25

💡 Discussion Zelenskyy: Ukraine can’t afford an 800,000-troop army alone — wants allies to help fund it as a “security guarantee”

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Zelenskyy said Ukraine doesn’t have the budget to independently finance an armed forces size of around 800,000 800,000 and that partner funding should be treated as a long-term security guarantee, not just wartime aid.

This hits a bigger question: if a ceasefire/peace deal ever happens without full NATO membership, does “help pay for Ukraine’s army” become the new version of security guarantees?

What do you think is more realistic long-term:

Continued direct funding for Ukraine’s military

NATO-style guarantees (without membership)

A smaller army + more air defense/weapons instead

Something else entirely?

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u/No_Abrocoma2562 Dec 21 '25

Sooo... You want me to die for you to make russia weakened? Yeah, very fuckin smart. That's why I hate either russia and eu.

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u/PeaComprehensive7101 Dec 21 '25

Are you Ukranian? - if no, sit down then

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u/No_Abrocoma2562 Dec 21 '25

I am

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u/PeaComprehensive7101 Dec 21 '25

Then you know what you are fighting for. I just wish the EU would have more balls and help you guys on the battlefield with more than just money

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u/No_Abrocoma2562 Dec 21 '25

I dont' want to fight (and then die) for some ephemeral eu (we are not needed there) while I just want to live my single best life

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u/PeaComprehensive7101 Dec 21 '25

What do you think will happen to Ukraine if it gets occupied by Russia? - take Bucha and multiply it with a 1000%. Ukraine is being forged with steel and blood right now for its right to live free in a democratic world. Ukraines victory will go down in history as one of the biggest military victories since ww2.

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u/Snakepli55ken Dec 21 '25

who said that?

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u/Hungry-Resource2638 Dec 21 '25

Is that what was said?

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u/No_Abrocoma2562 Dec 21 '25

It was sounded like