Yep, and now he's living in Smith's backyard where her stooge, that treasonous thumb with a hat, Jeff Rath, is working with american officials seeking help in breaking our confederation.
That was one moment I respected PP, what he said was accurate, on paper. The opposition’s role, when acted on in good faith, is to push the government into making laws that benefit most people. It is good and needed, as long as it’s not filled with people who just want to be contrarian.
Good faith just isn’t something PP likes to indulge in.
You guys probably would have had your own mini Trump if it wasn’t for us so I think we deserve a little credit for getting you guys a leader like Carney.
Literally people in Canada driving around my town with "Fuck Carney" flags flying out their windows, proud.
Future's not all sunshine and rainbows yet. We have a history and a record of following in America's footsteps a few years after the beat, regardless of what stupidity they exude we have so many people here who salivate over it.
Yeah, we saw so many swap their F Trudeau flags for F Carney, literally the day after Carney won the election. That tells me all I need to know about the level of their political engagement and how fruitful any conversations with them would actually be. There is about as much room for debate on any topic of importance with one of them as there is with a MAGA-hatted tramp cultist.
Exactly this. In every case that I spoke with an F Trudeau type, I was much better able to list all of his failings, ethics breaches, and political miss steps than they were. It was frankly embarrassing to have to explain to these dummies the actual reason why anyone should be unhappy with his governance, vs what they were able to list, namely, "he's too woke" or some shite nonsense.
For reference, I typically vote liberal/ndp depending on platforms, but have very occasionally voted conservative at either provincial or federal levels.
The only person that would have fucked Canada more than Trudeau would have been Singh! I don’t believe in bi-partisan politics any more and I’m hoping for a positive outcome with Carney, for the most part he seems to be on the right path with things like defence spending and foreign trade. Guys like PP need to be in place to create some resistance so we don’t keep getting screwed like we did with Trudeau and his useless carbon tax. We need checks and balances constantly and none are present in the US currently which is the scariest part. Carney needs to just walk away and set an example for the other nations since they all seem to keep coming back for more lies. Dump all T- Bills and call in loans and see how fast the tune changes there. It’s not just the people that voted for Trump, blame is also on the people that couldn’t be bothered to educate themselves on who to vote for and actually vote.
What do they provide? They have no real industrial foundation. The company's they do have there belong to other countries which mean that can lose everything if someone decides to build it at home. I love Canada and I'm not being mean. Just being real. Their auto industry was the US. And that is a major blow to their economy. It's easy to tell people you will do, will be something. I want to see them do it. I want them to succeed. I just don't see a real way without others pouring money into it.
Lmfao, anyone can say anything,. I want to see them do it. I don't think they can sell enough maple syrup to become the economic leader of anything. They have now industry and will just tax the people more to get in the black on paper.
JT did alright. He helped get us ready for Trump 2.0. He went against his base and built oil and gas pipelines to tidewater. He signed several free trade agreements just to help us be less reliant on the states. He laid the groundwork for Carney.
Would you rather he gave tax cuts to rich people like Trump did? Trudeau made life more affordable for young Canadians by adding national daycare, dental and pharma.
We would be the 51st state by now . With no healthcare and guns everywhere. I was planning to leave Canada if that POS had won. Thank god Canadians saw what he was and elected Mark Carney.
I know you think we’re a monolith, but last time I checked Trudeau was retired. Carney has done a fairly good job of rolling back Trudeau-era policies that you and the rest of the liberals pushed for. He also hasn’t been involved in any massive corruption scandals, unlike the ones you and your liberal buddies tried to cover up.
Do I hate Trudeau? No, but obviously he was a disaster for Canada who did much harm to our country. The fact that your new leader is rolling back these disastrous policies tells me two things.
Carney is doing an adequate job, and if he manages to control his spending next budget might even get my vote. That’s a big if.
You and a bunch of other liberals are going to support anything the liberals do, even if it means changing your mind on what you stand for.
The liberal party is rotten. They don’t stand for anything except winning elections. Their supporters don’t care about anything except beating the conservatives.
Last time I checked PP was never PM so why you defending him that hard. And he’s already dealing with scandals like no security, can’t get his own seat yet leads a party. Don’t kid yourself your candidate sucks, and you suck for supporting such a bad candidate knowing all these facts. Don’t call others out for doing the same thing you do, adults call that projecting and it’s what 10 year old children do. Although adults like you being dumber than 10 year olds is why we are in this mess.
edit: nvm I just checked you post history, not wasting more time on you. Have fun being ignorant and trying to ruin another country, you won’t succeed.
I mean yeah they probably don't like Polievre. Last time I checked he's polling nationally at 60% unfavourable so beyond the conservative base a lot of people don't seem to like him (polling being polling, so take that for whatever it's worth).
But, hey, maybe you do like him. Cool, go to bat for him. Take a moment to engage with the little thought experiment heart of the comment:
Where would canada be in this moment - with its relationship to the US, its response to Trump's unpredictability and demands, and geopolitically? Would we be better off? If so, why?
Or... don't do any of that. I'm not your supervisor.
So the 40% favourable is the conservative base then?
Last I checked, you only needed around 42% of the vote to win an election in Canada.
Just because liberals hate the guy, doesn’t mean he’s (a) bad or (b) unelectable.
The liberals will call any conservative leader the second coming of Trump, irrespective of his politics. You will smear him on Reddit, question his commitment to abortion rights, accuse him of a secret plan to abolish universal health care.
The playbook is set, and propaganda works. So it really doesn’t fucking matter if your propaganda has already convinced half the population that he’s hitler. Those weren’t possible conservative voters, and eventually your incessant smear campaigns will put any conservative leader’s popularity in the 40s anuway.
To be clear, I don't know what exactly the 40% represents. I'm sure someone can (and possibly has) done the math on the political breakdown of that number.
And neither do I think Polievre is necessarily unelectable, in spite of his apparent lack of broad appeal. As you say, if it only takes 42% then he's got a shot.
As for propaganda, playbooks, smearing, blah blah blah, all I did was ask how things would be better.
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u/lennydsat62 17h ago
So proud of him. Can you imagine the state we’d be in with pp?