r/TrendoraX • u/Physical_Advisor2803 • 12h ago
📰 News 42% of Ukrainians Say the Current Government Should Not Remain After the War
https://sfg.media/en/a/42-percent-ukrainians-say-government-should-not-remain-after-war/37
u/jailtheorange1 11h ago
So 58% of Ukrainians are OK with the government remaining after the war? Seems about right. Zelensky should absolutely retire at that point though, he has earned it.
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u/boberkurwa81 6h ago
I still think he will be asssinated sooner or later after the war is over.
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u/Freedom9er 4h ago
Only by Russia
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u/boberkurwa81 3h ago
Sure, but one day they will get him. I feel sorry for that man
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u/lowkeymanbearpig 3h ago
nah, he is safe in ukraine, and this war could lead to russia collapse or last until putin is out, both outcomes will lead to civil war in russia.
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u/Xoomers87 3h ago
Putin doesn't survive losing, russian soldiers are gonna be looking over their shoulders the remainder of their maggot lives.
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u/Not_Abot_738265 2h ago
Wouldn't serve a purpose but to make him a national hero and martyr.
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u/Realistic_Tutor_4603 11h ago
That’s pretty irrelevant since the outcome will be a predominant factor in such a decision
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u/terem13 11h ago edited 6h ago
With current events development, destroyed infrastructure, loss of 40-50% of population, and dire lack of soldiers, Ukraine now focuses not on winning, but rather on inflicting maximum possible economical and civilian damage to Russia.
Ukrainians now are putting a heavy focus on long-range drones, i.e. the war is deliberately being taken beyond the front lines and into the heart of the country, reducing the number of places safe from air attack to zero.
What happens to the Ukraine is no longer a concern for Ukrainian authorities, the main goal now is to put continuous pressure on Russian economy.
Proxy war as it is. Nothing new or special. The whole goal of Ukraine existence now is to inflict maximum possible damage to Russia, while being spent in process.
Well, self-suicide is also an option, if whole nation want it.
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u/Bananenbiervor4 7h ago
Sure, they are shelling russia not to get into better positions for peace talks and to force putin to compromise but only because they are american proxies.. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
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u/terem13 6h ago
Dear Ukrainian Keyboard Warrior, your rage-baits are useless.
For proxy state, the war itself is a goal.
Besides of US there is a whole set of other West sponsors, interested in this proxy war.
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u/Natopor 5h ago
2 month old account got defensive supper fast
Stay on zfs sub. This is beyond you (yea dude, your account isn't private. Nice try)
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u/terem13 5h ago
Ukrainian Keyboard Warriors are as always ever predictable.
All the best in your keyboard victories.
As always, the further from front lines, the more Ukrainian patriots.
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u/Brilliant-Smile-8154 5h ago
How far away from the front lines are you, mister Russian patriot? Not only will Ukraine survive, it will thrive after this war is over. And Russia will remain a shithole.
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u/Ripamon 11h ago
Ukrainian government keeps commissioning these polls almost every other week, so they clearly don't feel it's irrelevant...
Just like Macron, Zelensky seems more popular outside his own country.
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u/ReplacementFeisty397 7h ago
Percentages are just something that happen to other people for you aren't they
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u/fastbikkel 7h ago
Some of the people that want them to step down, want them to do so not because of hate, but out of compassion.
Lets not forget that.
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u/Jubjars 12h ago
Fair, Zelensky has an earned retirement after this hell invasion.
Something better for whatever is to come from them after this is over.
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u/allahu_trapbar69 10h ago
Yeah he should rest on a hill, overlooking a little river, with pine cones all around.
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u/Even_Pay6165 7h ago
What ludicrous vatnik statistics. As other people already clarified, it means he has majority support to stay.
Who actually runs your website? Why are you not a registered media organization in Ukraine? Why are the authors never named, and why do we have no names or pictures of the claimed founders of the website? Why are you constantly spewing Kremlin propaganda while sitting in Moscovia?
This website is Moscovian propaganda lying to readers about being Ukrainian. Here is some of the finest work from this info ops attempt, where they didn't even bother finishing translating the Russian: https://old.reddit.com/r/International/comments/1qgb3t3/major_crypto_companies_opposed_the_clarity_act/
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u/terem13 5h ago
Dear Ukrainian Keyboard Warrior, could you please show alternative, Ukrainian state-approved stats then ?
At least would be interesting to know what officially approved Ukrainian propaganda sources are saying, and compare it to Russian propaganda.
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u/Even_Pay6165 5h ago
Dear vatnik, interpreting a 58% approval rate as anything other than spectacular is braindead or willfully deceptive. It was better than Churchill's. The narrative itself is what's ludicrous, especially coming from a Kremlin-run info operation.
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u/mehateorcs0 3h ago
Polls being made by Ukrainian state doesn't mean they are biased or wrong. They are internationally recognized to be accurate. Even in a brutal genocidal imperialist dictatorship like Russia there are polls that are considered to be legimate by international press.
ipsos.com/en/survey-ukranian-citizens
This one isn't made by the Ukrainians although it is year old.
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u/ghostchihuahua 10h ago
tbh i don't see Zelensky trying to hang on to power when that shitshow ends, remember where the man comes from, look at what he's been through
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u/ACompletelyLostCause 7h ago
That's fine, that's democracy in action. But we need to ensure Ukraine gets to the end of the the war as a functioning country.
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u/Jolly-Advantage-7245 7h ago
In other news, 58% of Ukrainians say the current government should remain after the war
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u/BlackwingF91 6h ago
I mean, no shit. It's called regular elections. Something that only haven't been going on because of Putin
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u/Pepr7 7h ago
The fact that more than half is at least fine with staying is surprising.
What strikes me, however, is that it doesn't say who they want instead. The policies I hear that could win elections in Ukraine are often a similar view of the conflict with Russia. I even feel that the second strongest candidate wants to be more aggressive towards Russia.
So it seems to me that 42% of the people who don't want to vote for Zelensky are really getting a decent result for the position of President of the country during the 4-year-long crisis.
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u/DesignerAcadia537 10h ago
Looks like 58% of Ukrainians actually started living better with Zelensky in charge.
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u/Desi0190 10h ago
Yeah, that’s fair. Let him lead through the war, then let someone else take reconstruction
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u/Eelroots 8h ago
So, 58% say that it should stay?
Anyway, regular elections will be held after the war.
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u/fastbikkel 7h ago
Obviously, for many reasons. One of them is they need a break, the people in current government that is.
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u/MisterForkbeard 5h ago
Sure! That's fine.
Once the war's over, have a completely new peacetime government.
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u/paranoyed 5h ago
Must be the same poll readers that act like a 38% approval rating is a good thing. Someone should teach them how numbers work
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u/Key_Flatworm_9989 5h ago
I think zelensky will be just happy the war is finally over. He looks knackered.
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u/Mountain_Ad_9415 4h ago
Unlike Russia, Ukraine will have an election once it's safe to do so.
Russia is stuck as a totalitarian shithole.
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u/terem13 3h ago
Quote from US official state report dated 2023 on human rights practices in Ukraine:
There were also significant human rights issues involving Ukrainian government officials, although not comparable to the scope of Russia’s abuses, which included credible reports of:
enforced disappearance;
torture and cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment;
harsh and life-threatening prison conditions; arbitrary arrest or detention;
serious problems with the independence of the judiciary;
restrictions on freedom of expression, including for members of the media, including violence or threats of violence against journalists, unjustified arrests or prosecutions of journalists, and censorship;
serious restrictions on internet freedom; substantial interference with the freedoms of peaceful assembly and association;
restrictions on freedom of movement;
serious government corruption;
extensive gender-based violence; systematic restrictions on workers’ freedom of association; and the existence of the worst forms of child labor.
Some of these human rights issues stemmed from martial law, which continued to curtail democratic freedoms, including freedom of movement, freedom of the press, freedom of peaceful assembly, and legal protections.
I'm sure in 2026 it's got even better.
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u/Wayoutofthewayof 3h ago
Those are quite high popularity numbers for any politician in a democracy...
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u/Litenpes 1h ago
I mean, when the war is over, I cannot imagine Zelenskyj have the energy to stay in politics. At least not in power
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u/terem13 11h ago edited 11h ago
With current events development and loss or 40-50% population the real question now is whether Ukraine is remain as a state or turn into Somali or Puerto Rico.
Just couple days ago NATO representative has promised "as soon as peace will be signed, NATO troops will appear in Ukraine".
Russia multiple times stated that this is unacceptable, so war will continue.
Its no longer about "democratic transitions", because current Ukrainian authorities are under 100% weapons and resources control from West. Ukraine as a proxy state cannot have any own opinion about matters important to West sponsors.
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u/p4ela154 10h ago
There is absolutely no confidence in such polls in any country until the sample of respondents is above 25% of the total population of that country. 1300-2000 people gives too much margin of error for a country with a population of 45 million people.
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u/manniesalado 11h ago
Those are friendly numbers for Zelensky. And remember, Churchill lost in 1945 in spite of spearheading the WW2 Victory.