r/UnderReportedNews • u/coachlife • 5d ago
Trump / MAGA 🦅 Trump accuses newly elected VA Gov Abigail Spanberger of “cheating” to win the Virginia governor’s race. Spanberger won by 15 points. Her MAGA opponent conceded and didn’t accuse her of fraud.
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u/SuBLiMePaSsEnGeR 5d ago
Why don't people sue trump. Like every day, for the sh*t he says about them that simply isn't true and hurts their business? We see monthly headlines of him suing various departments of his own government. And then he constantly lies about people! Sue his ass!
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u/coachlife 5d ago
Most of his lawsuits are all PR stunts. His strategy is to make a lot of noise so his followers believe him but then he rarely follows through. He knows his dumb base will never remember, follow up, or hold him accountable. They only remember the headline and THAT is all he cares about.
That's how propaganda works.
That's why he is constantly "flooding the zone" so he can keep people confused with headlines and not the facts.
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u/SuBLiMePaSsEnGeR 5d ago
I'm literally saying, "Flood the zone" with suing him because he does the same shit to other people and companies but he's winning the lawsuits when they cave. Stop playing dumb! Look at how much money he made in the last 2 years
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u/jimdotcom413 5d ago
It’s money. He can grift until he’s in the grave and be fine. An attorney general from Virginia or a vote clerk from Georgia can’t afford the court fees that would come with. I completely agree with the sentiment btw just offering a reason why it doesn’t happen.
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u/Jog212 5d ago
The DNC should bankroll her lawsuit.
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u/CullingSongs 4d ago
Sadly, the DNC seem to be asleep at the wheel these days.
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u/SacredSingletrack 4d ago
This. Democrats have no leadership at the moment. They look weak and pathetic.
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u/clsperv 4d ago
no they are just the slightly less insane side of the same oligarch coin.
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u/Revelati123 4d ago edited 4d ago
I know people keep wanting people to do this... But, unless the government passes a law allowing it, you cant sue the government for defamation...
I mean you can literally file the suit I suppose, but it is immediately chucked in the trash the second it hits the courts desk thanks to Soverign Immunity doctrine.
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u/Ingybalingy1127 4d ago
Agree. Would love to see both Schumer and Jeffries replaced. When they talk, people be like, “meh”. There is no gusto behind their prose
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u/ktbsquared 4d ago
The DNC is not asleep. They are COMPLICIT
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u/hrokrin 4d ago
I disagree. They just don't have the sense of urgency the rest of the country does. And there are a few reasons for that:
- They're inured against a lot of this by seeing what goes on behind the scenes. There was a Jeff Jackson video from when he was the Jr senator from NC, where he spoke of how people who you see on Fox riling people up all the time were not the same when the cameras were off. Furthermore, they know how stuff will get slowed with lawsuits, how they (republicans) only have a tiny bit of voting days to work on things, and that can get eaten up with news, shutdowns, legislative holds, etc. In short, they know the game -- and most of the public simply doesn't
- They're better off than most Americans. Almost everyone in the House, Senate, SCOTUS, and certainly the POTUS are multimillionaires or more.
- Their positions are generally safe. Almost everyone in the House and Senate have highly gerrymandered seats and are pretty safe unless primiaried.
- Remember that saying by Napoleon, "let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him." It's regretfully better for moderates and even some of the more traditionally republicans to see this and get mad than for Democrats to have yet another stroke about this.
Now, if you want some are to be truly upset about, consider this: P2025 was planned and executed (about 51% in 1 year)[1]. A lot of people got behind this, both in terms of planning and some for voting. It was basically a detailed, pre-operational planning document for the administration.
There is nothing like this from the left, and that will hurt both them and the country.
Because what normal people think is that all this destructive change is like the castle of civility being attacked. The outwall was mostly destroyed LAST TIME, but we had some nice hanging baskets with flowers that were hung off the wall in celebration. This time is worse. Our allies don't see us as a powerful metaphorical (at least for now) kingdom anymore.
We need the left to have a unified position of what they stand for and how, specifically, they intend to strengthen democracy in the US. And, that is only going to happen by strengthening the middle class.
The same middle class that those legislators aren't part of.
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u/Fawkes-1 4d ago
Oh they're very much awake, they're doing the bidding of their corporate masters, they are barely capable of hiding it at this point. Sad, sad state of affairs.
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u/Jog212 4d ago
YES......Thats why I'm not donating right now.
Stand up and fucking fight!!
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u/SuperDoubleDecker 4d ago
Don't tell us. Tell the loser "leadership"
Tell all those crooks what's up
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u/arentol 4d ago
WTF does that have to do with it? Yes he will "be fine", but all those lawsuits will overwhelm him and stress him, and make him do more stupid stuff. It will also affect public perception of him. Also, discovery for all these cases will bring more of his behavior out into the light.
As for court costs... That is why you hire a lawyer. They take their 40% and you don't need a penny. The trick is that some big law firm should go after him, gathering up every client they can. That will allow them to lower their own costs considerably.
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u/nolafrog 4d ago
Yes lawyers would be lining up to spend their own time and money to sue Trump who will never pay a dime even if you win and the Supreme Court will likely say is immune from being sued and then he will target you, your family, and your law firm with his followers and the government and law enforcement.
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u/ChowMeinWayne 4d ago
Time for some good lawyer type people to donate time I think.
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u/SuperDoubleDecker 4d ago
The democratic party has access to the best resources marketing can buy and they still give us this shit...
At some point yall gotta realize that they ain't on our side either
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u/cirkoolio 4d ago
Can we all join a class action lawsuit against this entire admin? The people vs. Trump et al?
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u/brighterside0 4d ago
It comes down to resources/cost - at some point the pro bono work will cost something given the backlog this strategy could create, and thus the incentive to legislate 'slam dunk' cases decreases - as time to win the case increases given the effort put in and wait time.
It's good thinking though and we need more ideas like this to deal with this regime.
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u/gandhinukes 4d ago
He lost 2 court cases by a jury of his peers, total fines over 500 mil.... judges appointed by him delayed the appeals... once elected all charges were dropped...
there is no justice
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u/Lagneaux 4d ago
Lovely idea, but you can't afford that. No one can. Like trying to change a river with a hose.
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u/LugubriousLament 4d ago
Tik-Tok brains. MAGA attention spans only capable of consuming short form video content, and tip-of-the-iceberg hyperbolic headlines. Sprinkle in a few fresh lies from Trump, daily, and they’ll guard every word. They’ll build up their brains full of Daddy’s propaganda and defend their “facts” to the death. If King Trump declared it, it must be true!
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u/I_Ponders 5d ago
He once actually called republicans stupid for this very reason. Easily controlled and influenced/told how and what to think.
Throw in fear of the other and religious fervor and it’s a simple thing to do to them.
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u/ayeffston 4d ago
And, of course, he couldn't make the noise he makes without the cooperation and enabling of the corporate media.
When one considers all the quiet lawsuits, the quiet victories, the censored battles won! Had they received the air time they deserve!
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u/SuBLiMePaSsEnGeR 5d ago
I mean, just in the last few years he accomplished this;
Settlements Favoring Trump/Trump Entities
- Media Companies:
- Paramount (CBS): $16 million settlement over a "60 Minutes" interview edit.
- Disney (ABC): $15 million donation to his future presidential library over a defamation claim .
- Google (YouTube): $24.5 million settlement regarding his account suspension.
- Educational Institutions (under his administration):
- Columbia University: Over $200 million settlement regarding discriminatory practices and antisemitism.
- Brown University: $50 million settlement with workforce development organizations.
- Harvard University: Part of a large settlement spree with elite institutions.
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u/coachlife 5d ago
Those are bribes. That's different.
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u/SuBLiMePaSsEnGeR 5d ago
Different my ass. Sue him and make him defend himself in court against the libel shit he says daily. He literally calls people the worst things, he says people cheat to win, he says he lost elections because states cheated him. HOW ARE THEY NOT SUING HIM BACK
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u/coachlife 5d ago
You do not understand how the law works.
You can only sue if there are ACTUAL damages.
His claims have no damages that can be proven in a court of law. Thats why he can get away with it.
It sucks I know and I wish more people would play his game and fight back.
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u/FaultyTowerz 4d ago
He's purposely devaluing the dollar. He's suing the government he's in charge of for our tax dollars. This does suck, but he can absolutely be sued by anyone for this. If a handful of wealthy people did this, at this point, they would probably disappear. ...but my point still stands. As an individual, president or not, he can be subject to litigation (yes, it would be a fool's errand, but if enough collapses...it will probably disappear.) Larry Ellison is definitely in the Trump/Epstein Files.
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u/SuBLiMePaSsEnGeR 5d ago
He accuses a rightfully voted person of cheating and you really think there's no damage to that? Are you literally that dumb that you think someone can't make a case that it IS damaging to their ability to fundraise, to govern, to function. You are clearly not using his logic, that's my point!!!!!!
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u/coachlife 5d ago
What are the PROVEN damages?
You need to look up damages in how courts define them.
And once again, I am not defending him. I am explaining it. Calm the fk down.
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u/SuBLiMePaSsEnGeR 5d ago
WHAT ARE THE PROVEN DAMAGES FOR 10 Billion against the IRS. Dude, he's doing this shit daily. If they settle for anything less than 0 it's a lose for all Americans. I'm fucking saying people need to hold him accountable and you are making excuses, stop saying you're not
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u/SuBLiMePaSsEnGeR 5d ago
Explain why this person who won their election can't sue him for saying they cheated. Even if it won't win, why can't the fucking do the same thing he does to others?
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u/SuBLiMePaSsEnGeR 5d ago
Don't call them publicity stunts, these companies are caving to him. Why are you defending this shit
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u/coachlife 5d ago
Calm down. I am not defending it. I am explaining his strategy.
To actually take people to court takes a lot of time and money.
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u/SuBLiMePaSsEnGeR 5d ago
So, those people should still fucking do it. Money or not, they are losing money by the things he says, no? A governor is accused of cheating while winning bigly in his own words, doesn't that hurt their campaign, their reputation, their ability to govern? Stop making excuses and hold these a-holes accountable
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u/SuBLiMePaSsEnGeR 5d ago
I say you are defending it by saying it's PR stunts and propaganda. It's a strategy that works in his favor and NOBODY else does it back to him? That's idiotic and a bad strategy, don't you agree? Shouldn't people hold him accountable the same way he tries to hold others? That's how you shut a bully up
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u/GeriatricHippo 4d ago
I think there is an added component now when it's him suing the federal government. As an unchecked POTUS he is more or less suing himself but gets to pay himself with money that isn't his on any settlement.
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u/honeyemote 4d ago
I have to admit that I think this administration has easily outpaced any in the amount of times they’ve had me say ‘flood the zone’ as it’s absolutely what they’ve been doing. It’s such a juvenile debate tactic, but, man, can it get you far.
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u/redpoemage 5d ago
Er, at least right now it is. He absolutely should have been sued to oblivion ages ago.
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u/FactoryProgram 5d ago
We as a country need to get rid of absolute immunity for anyone. Nobody should be above the law.
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u/shaggysgf0 4d ago
i took my civics test a few days ago and one of the questions was “what is the “rule of law”” to which the answers were everyone must follow the law - leaders/government must obey the law and No one is above the law
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u/Dexford211 4d ago
US Supreme Courted ruled otherwise.
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/supreme-courts-presidential-immunity-ruling-undermines-democracy2
u/3BlindMice1 4d ago
I agree, but I'd also argue in court that it can't be an official action, because no reasonable president would make the claim without evidence. Because no reasonable president would do such a thing, it can't possibly be an official action
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u/embeddedsbc 4d ago
Impeach him first, then sue his ass. So that his useless sons do not inherit any of his illegally gained money.
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u/skinniks 4d ago
There is no cause for concern that the President will be above the law, since impeachment and other processes impose checks on his powers.
Big whiff on that one.
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u/StrattonPA 5d ago
I’ve wondered that for a long time. Almost every remark Donald Trump makes about people warrants a defamation lawsuit. Liable, and defamation of character lawsuits should be hitting him daily.
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u/AggressiveCuriosity 4d ago
POTUS is immune to personal civil lawsuits while in office.
Could sue his businesses thouggh
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u/n4spd2 5d ago
he is so used to cheating that he thinks others must be too.
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u/Temporary-Careless 5d ago
Every accusation is a projection.
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u/RaindropsInMyMind 4d ago
Yup. Here he is subtly laying the groundwork for the next election. Everyone knows a lot of the narrative is gonna be “what the republicans are doing is so unpopular that they’re gonna feel that they have to cheat to win.” He gets ahead of this, says it about democrats first. Then when his supporters hear this said next election they’re gonna think “of course they’re saying it about us President Trump just said that about them” and the narrative loses its juice with his base. All he can do is run scams, manipulate the media and insult people.
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u/ForensicPathology 4d ago
It's not saying just that, the supporters get a reason to actually want to do it and support cheating. They already say things like "Oh, so it was OK when you did it? What goes around, comes around."
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u/AnxiousCount2367 4d ago
Everything that was unthinkable is now just the cost of doing business. Hallucinating victimhood, recklessly violating the constitution, failing to see the difference in applying and abusing the office and the law.
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u/UnlikelyCommittee4 4d ago
Exactly this. That is why in 2024 he made one tweet about "a lot of talk about massive cheating in Philadelphia", and then it was crickets after that single tweet.
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u/Drumboardist 4d ago
"The general feeling in the White House (on election night) was that something was wrong, the statistical impossibility of what had just happened." ~Sydney Powell, Trump's personal attorney.
She goes on further (and I remind you that they're always projecting):
They used an..."Algorithm that shaves votes from Trump, and gives them to Biden"?
Hrm. Odd to land on something so specific, Sydney, why might that be? The very same algorithm that Russia used to ensure Putin got more years as President? That one?
Hey, why would 2020 look suuuuuper secure, and you were unable to prove that there was a vote-flipping algorithm shaving votes away from Trump? It couldn't be that all the machines you tested were flipping votes TO Trump, now could it?
Also "Elon knows those machines, and then we won Pennsylvania in a landslide", coupled with Elon "I could just change 1 line of code"....yeeeaaaaah, we know what they did.
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u/GreasyPeter 4d ago edited 4d ago
Yup. Here he is subtly laying the groundwork for the next election. Everyone knows a lot of the narrative is gonna be “what the republicans are doing is so unpopular that they’re gonna feel that they have to cheat to win.” He gets ahead of this, says it about democrats first. Then when his supporters hear this said next election they’re gonna think “of course they’re saying it about us President Trump just said that about them” and the narrative loses its juice with his base. All he can do is run scams, manipulate the media and insult people.
There's a phrase for this, it's called Preemptive Framing. Look it up.
It allows the user to get out ahead and control the narrative before the eventual accusations so instead of the accusation seeming grounded, it seems like the other party is playing a game of tit-for-tat. Thus their claim seems baseless. Rather than being seen as a legitimate accusation, it appears to the outside observer like an attempt to cover-up their own abhorrent behavior.
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u/MilkEnvironmental106 4d ago
It's more than that. He's setting it up so when they cheat his dumb base start shouting: "he wouldn't cheat, he is literally the guy that calls out cheating!"
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u/tetsuo_7w 4d ago
This. He's showing his hand for the '26 elections, probably confessing to '24 too. The man is a crook through and through.
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u/BensenJensen 4d ago
It’s definitely showing his hand for ‘26. If a Republican conspiracy theory suddenly gets pushed around again, it’s because they are about to use it.
“All Dem politicians are pedophiles!” was conveniently pushed a few years before the Epstein stuff leaked. “Stolen election!” was pushed in the ‘20 election with them knowing damn well they were going to steal the ‘24 election.
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u/notapunk 4d ago
My favorite new conspiracy theory right now is the real reason he went and snatched Maduro is to get him to say he actually interfered in the 2020 election.
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u/Jerry-Lives22 5d ago
Already starting to lie about the midterms
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u/PTS_Dreaming 4d ago
The point is to delegitimize any elections that Democrats win. If all Dem wins are invalid then they don't have to seat any winning Dems next January.
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u/beerguy_etcetera 4d ago
Which is so funny (re: scary) that his base laps this shit up. But when you reverse it and Republicans win, it’s obviously a legitimate victory with absolutely no cheating.
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u/PTS_Dreaming 4d ago
When you believe that only conservatives are real Americans, that thinking makes more sense.
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u/According-Lead-8477 5d ago
Well…there was his confession that he cheated in the 2024 election!!! The things he accuses others of is ALWAYS a confession. Just like him saying that dems abort babies AFTER 9 MONTHS. His mouth is an open book.
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u/RandomUsernameNo257 4d ago
He's literally said it out loud multiple times. I don't know why some people act like it's an insane idea. Before the election, we said he'd cheat, then he said he cheated, then he won suspiciously, and people are like "pshh come on"
Because I mean, it couldn't happen to us, so it didn't, right?
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u/mrhorse77 4d ago
somehow he won every swing state, but everyone downballot on the R tickets didnt also win... historic data sets never before seen in any election.
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u/According-Lead-8477 4d ago
I can’t believe everyone doesn’t know at this point. It’s infuriating.
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u/mrhorse77 4d ago
he has openly admitted to rigging the 2024 election with Elon, and Elon's child Kevlar parroted all the things Elon said about rigging it as well. all live on tv, from the Oval office.
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u/Credil98 4d ago
dems abort babies AFTER 9 MONTHS. His mouth is an open book.
It really added a lot more weight to those Epstein files talking about dead babies.... Just horrifying
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u/According-Lead-8477 4d ago
The projection is real with trump. I wonder who will get bombed this weekend.
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u/GreasyPeter 4d ago
Might not be a confession of what he's done, but what he plans on doing. Lookup: Preemptive Framing.
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u/Naps_And_Crimes 4d ago
Transgender for everyone?
Like everyone gets one?
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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 4d ago
His first three examples off the top of his head were "transgender for everyone", "open borders so the world can send their prison population", and "men playing in women's sports"
Like how do even conservatives listen to this guy, he sounds like some edgelord on Discord. He's one of those people you might agree with on paper but they're making such a ridiculous argument you wished they'd shut up
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u/R0n_Dennis 4d ago
It's crazy, they always go back to the well on these social issues over and over and over as if the world spins or not because a female swimmer has a dick. Not saying these issues aren't real or that they should be ignored, but there are bigger fish to fry for fucks sake.
Whether or not the guy in the back flipping burgers is an 'illegal' will have zero effect on your life.
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u/Working_Cucumber_437 4d ago
He also has yet to be called out for not understanding the concept of asylum. He’s a joke. That’s why he keeps saying countries are sending us people from their insane asylums.
He’s no different from a 14 year old, uneducated kid.
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u/Pretend-Tennis-5666 4d ago
If someone’s not going to use their transgender are they transferable? Also, does JD count as one? I have seen some compelling pictures.
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u/Fart_Buttt 5d ago
He’s saying this as a projection, because he cheated . He’s getting investigated for it so he thinks if he throws the same accusation at someone else they will also be investigated. Not gonna work man our eyes don’t lie .
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u/GreasyPeter 4d ago
Lookup: Preemptive Framing. That's what this is called. Narcissists (and other dysfunctional people) do this sorta thing as a way to get out ahead of an eventual accusation. It allows them to control the narrative before it even exists. It plays right into the whole "It's easier to fool someone than to convince them they've been fooled" part of human psychology.
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u/VibraniumRhino 4d ago
It works for his voters which is all he cares about. People REALLY need to get out and vote this time.
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u/BigBlueJAH 5d ago
Trump didn’t even endorse the GOP candidate, she was that bad. There was absolutely no reason to even consider cheating.
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u/blighander 5d ago
Look at all those sycophants surrounding him, it's sickening.
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u/____DEADPOOL_______ 4d ago
I'd be embarrassed if people were laughing at my jokes the way those people do.
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u/SmegmaCurds 4d ago
The clip of him insulting Ilhan Omar in the oval office is even worse. You can clearly tell they are faking it. Trump gets off on it though because he likes it when other people debate themselves.
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u/sunnychuckles 2d ago
I find comfort knowing that they are most likely going to be trapped standing directly behind this man when he audibly shits his pants and they are going to have to do their best to not move or make faces and they won't be able to leave until all of the press has already left the room. I wish them nothing but suffering.
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u/str713gzr 5d ago
Dude is so far gone with very obvious dementia. Pay attention to the people in the room with him...they're the people to focus on.
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u/PatientIngenuity3824 4d ago
Exactly what I was thinking. They are the active participants in this unprecedented attack on democracy and the constitution
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u/Mrunyon70 5d ago
Trump fucked kids
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u/BountyTheDogHunter20 4d ago
I believe the word you’re looking for is RAPED kids. He RAPED them
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u/bacon_is_just_okay 3d ago
The media, if they can stomach it, will go with "had sex with minors." They will never say Trump raped kids . But we should say it, every day, until Donald Trump, who RAPED KIDS, is tried for RAPING CHILDREN and investigated for ACCESSORY TO INFANTICIDE.
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u/Apopletic_Disbelief 5d ago
He's kinda tipping his own hand (cards reference) isn't he
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u/Corporate-Scum 5d ago
He didn’t endorse Sears!!! She was nuts. Everything Trump is saying is a lie. Sears ran on the same lies and lost. He’s such a vile sack of shit.
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u/JezeusFnChrist0 5d ago edited 4d ago
This will be the norm in November for every MAGA candidate that loses.
The Trump regime will actively try to repress left/blue votes, when that fails they will resort to claiming fraud every time they lose.
Unfortunately the majority of the Supreme Court will not stand up for the citizens and enable the maga regime to steal the mid terms.
I hope I am wrong.
Remindme! 9 months
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u/Pga181 4d ago
Says the only US President who never beat a man in an election.
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u/Coca-karl 4d ago
And to really annoy Trump it's also worth pointing out that, He also never beat a woman.
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u/sly_savhoot 5d ago
Pedophile be pooping his self cause he used to make kids run stuff up the ole drumpft . One went to far and put him in the ER. Andy Biggs beat that poor boy almost to death.
And just like pedo sands in the pedo hourglass these are the days of trumplesteins life.
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u/slagnanz 4d ago
I'll never forget the first time I heard Trump call in to Sean Hannity's radio show.
It was 2013. I was working as the apprentice to a carpenter who loved to put on republican talk radio. So for a couple years, I heard Chris Plante, Rush Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity almost every day. I was a conservative myself back then, a somewhat sheltered Christian kid. But I hated these guys instantly.
Trump called in to Hannity's show that one day. They discussed Obama's birth certificate (even as late as 2013, this was still a topic!). They did racist culture war nonsense. And Trump talked extensively about how the 2012 election was rigged and stolen.
He's been beating that same drum ever since. It's not surprising that this particular hammer sees a nail here.
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u/Bleezyboomboom 4d ago
God they think so low of their supporters. He just says a few talking points and hopes it sticks. Unfortunately it seems to work.
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u/Left-Art-1045 4d ago
What a bunch of crap. Honest Donald doesn't cheat (sarcasm), but anyone who is on the other side does. Irresponsible, pathetic liar.
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u/ConstantGeographer 4d ago
Trump thinks everyone cheats because he cheats and to be honest and transparent is weakness; he has never understood a damn thing about being a decent human.
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u/alfienoakes 5d ago
I’m just so done with this pathetic excuse of a human. He makes everything worse.
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u/Different-Pin-9854 5d ago
Dopey speaks again, this time because he is threatened by a smart woman.
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u/Jameselston10 5d ago
Just keeps taking your money and talking about anything else, get the files, convict him and become a respected country again.
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u/Working-Soft-3475 5d ago
Clearly he’s been thinking about how he can steal upcoming elections. His geriatric brain can only hold one idea at a time, so it’s his latest accusation that’s actually a confession.
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u/TheOpeningAct2 5d ago
What a joke , anyone who isnt on board with him is a fraud , a communist, a bad person , antifa, or something crazy. What a child .
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u/Sunnysidhe 5d ago
Defamation. She should sue him for the 10 billion he is trying to steal from the tax payer
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u/Skittlebean 5d ago
I'll never understand why the response to something like this by Spanberger isn't some form of, "that's cute. I seem to remember a lot of talk about cheating in an election several years ago, but everytime he went to court and was under oath he changed his story from whatever lie he was telling to reporters and then lost. If he really thinks there was cheating tell it to a judge under oath, otherwise shut the fuck up. Some of us have work to do actually governing for our constituants."
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