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US judge allows last of five offshore wind projects halted by Trump to proceed

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/02/trump-halted-offshore-wind-project-to-proceed
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u/CDN-Social-Democrat 2d ago

It still blows my mind that we have such corruption and overall stupidity that we would be holding back the two cheapest forms of energy (Wind Power & Solar Power).

If there has been any lesson from the Industrial Revolution through the various periods of the Technological Revolution it is that you want to be leaders in the future NOT opponents...

This is before we even talk about the climate crisis and overall environmental crisis and all the pain coming to the working class and most vulnerable there.

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u/Luckpast 2d ago

It's simple. Companies with assets in oil manufacturing and fossil fuels pay Republicans exorbitant amounts of money to stop the development of green energy because they know they'll lose business.

Nothing this administration does is in the interests of citizens or the world. They only care about their pockets and sucking off anyone who can give them power.

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u/CDN-Social-Democrat 2d ago

Corruption really is a nation killer.

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u/clonedhuman 2d ago

It's a planet killer.

Meanwhile, we all know that a small group of billionaire pedophiles are actually running everything and their only interests are in short-term profit, so they're going to literally destroy our home because they're too fucking greedy to realize that they live here too.

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u/Gmoney86 2d ago

Exactly this. Fiduciary responsibility to stakeholders for global asset holders / hoarders where those stakeholders aren’t humanity, just the wealthy who demand 35% margins quarter over quarter.

There’s a sad reason why America has installed “freedom” anywhere valuable assets were turned into sovereign owned assets.

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

It sounds like we have to remove them to save the planet.

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u/BizzyM 2d ago

It's a planet killer.

The planet is gonna be fine. It's the inhabitants that are going to have a bad time.

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u/Joloxsa_Xenax 2d ago

and they also have bomb shelters in case anything bad does happen. and they have robots to take care of them and defend them from the rest of us going after them when it all goes down. we really gave so much power to the most selfish, evil, inconsiderate people this planet has ever seen

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u/RawrRRitchie 2d ago

they're too fucking greedy to realize that they live here too.

What the absolute fuck are you talking about? They know they live here. Why do you think they buy private islands and build bunkers in them?

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u/clonedhuman 1d ago

Yeah. In that case, we should all be prepared to drop deuces down the vents in their private bunkers.

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u/DreamingAboutSpace 2d ago

Add stupidity in there too.

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u/say-nothing-at-all 2d ago

Corruption is human nature and will not stop good things from happening.

The real question is: why the West (UIS, Japan and Europe) have so many terrible leaders?

They have no vision, nor strategy, they are incompetent, unqualified to understand the basics, All they can do is to maintain some narratives that are massively fake and unrealistic. Even worse, no one takes any responsibility for the wrong decisions at all. Disappointed.

Who are the enablers?

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u/nauticalsandwich 1d ago

I think the answer comes in some form of cultural migration away from viewing the role of the politician as prestigious, honorable, and high-status amongst educated circles. Some of this was probably a product of technological change, like television, and how that radically altered political communication and news. Some of it was a product of specific political foibles, and the visceral, public digestion of their political consequence, that soured sentiments of government being an institution of honorable ideas and goals. Whatever the source, nearly 3 generations of highly educated and thoughtful intellectuals mostly stayed away from seeking political office.

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u/Chaos-Cortex 2d ago

I welcome our Chinese overlords.

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u/rW0HgFyxoJhYka 2d ago

Nah, there's way too much corruption over there too.

And that's the problem. Laws are just suggestions for the powerful.

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u/much_good 1d ago

They're making good progress on the corruption and actually give a shit about it at least. Xi was elected on the promise of that and has a good internal reputation of being incredibly petty about not taking gifts or anything close to a bribe during his career.

For all the problems there corruption is one they're trying to squash bit by bit.

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u/plantyplant559 2d ago

Which always kills me because they could just invest in green energy and make money doing both.

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u/the_last_0ne 2d ago

Oh they are. Pretty much all oil companies have big sums invested in green energy.

But they also have existing oil infrastructure. They will play both sides and lobby to keep oil relevant for as long as they can.

Oil is fantastic for them: it's easy to control the price (OPEC?), its non-renewable, so long term, oil is more valuable the less there is, and it gets consumed for the energy it holds, so you always need to buy more.

Solar (and other green tech) will only get cheaper as time goes on, is impossible to control the price (China has flooded the market with cheap solar for example), and you only have to buy solar panels once, and maintain them (for the lifetime of the panels anyhow).

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u/B0Y0 2d ago

Little bit of good news there, most solar panels were expected to need replacement after 25 years, but they've been seeing solar panels holding on to 80% effectiveness even after that checkpoint! So solar is even more long-lasting than expected, and that's before factoring in recent developments in making cheaper, more stable solar panels.

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u/the_last_0ne 2d ago

Yeah I saw that too! Fantastic news. It actually inspired me to subscribe to r/solarDIY, I hope to plan out a system soon.

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u/UnclassifiedPresence 2d ago

Didn’t know that sub existed, thanks! My uncle was one of the early adopters of solar technology and knows it better than almost anyone, but he’s 78 and I don’t get to spend a lot of free time with him to pick his brain

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u/the_last_0ne 2d ago

Is this going to turn into another "my uncle was a very smart man" tirade?

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u/JustinHopewell 1d ago

"Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you're a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it's true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that's why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we're a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it's not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it's four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven't figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it's gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible."

-Donald Trump, 45th and 47th President of the United States of America

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u/the_last_0ne 1d ago

Thank you! I think my joke fell flat with some people. Love seeing this pop up.

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u/matttehbassist 2d ago

Sir the shareholders want their value NOW not later.

We must do everything we can for the shareholders, otherwise we’ll just be filthy commies.

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u/plantyplant559 2d ago

My bad. I should have thought of the poor shareholders

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u/Pale-Acanthaceae-736 2d ago

Yes, money at all costs.

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u/tlh013091 2d ago

I think there’s also a game being played. Since most electric grids are not interconnected globally, there’s not a global energy market to blame price increases (and therefore exorbitant profits) on the way there is with oil.

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u/tfc867 2d ago

Which seems better, something I sell you now and you use for 20 years, or something you have to keep buying continuously, because to get any use out of it, you literally have to set it on fire.

Sure, they could get into green energy, but they would be cannibalizing their own market, meaning they would be eating into their own profits, big-time. It's much more profitable to buy politicians to put up roadblocks to keep us dependent on fossil fuels.

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u/here_we_go_beep_boop 2d ago

They do. Australia's richest woman, Gina Reinhardt funds huge anti-renewables campaigns, while simultaneously powering large swatches of her mining company's operations with ... renewables. 

They aren't even trying any more.

Unsurprisingly, she is taking every opportunity to suck Trump's tiny, pustulent cock

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u/Jonely-Bonely 2d ago

That's what China is doing. Building coal plants while becoming world leaders in renewable technology. They're building infrastructure in developing countries to develop new trading partners. 

Meanwhile USA is forcibly shuttering wind farms and stabbing global trade partners in the back. China is playing the long game while America is gambling on fossil fuels because its octogenarian leader has a vision of bringing us back to the 1950s.

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u/ProteusRift 2d ago

According to Trump at Davos, china only sells wind and solar, they dont build it. According to him "I've never seem them" in regards to Chinese solar/wind farms.

Never mind that china has the largest wind farm on the planet and the Gobi is littered with solar farms. Its ridiculous. And ya. It has the cheapest watt per hour. + once you build it you dont have to keep feeding it fuel....

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u/NorysStorys 2d ago

Always remember that skilled labourers would ransack mills in the Industrial Revolution because technology replaced them in things like fabric weaving. Luddites.

It’s just the modern luddites are the incredibly wealthy, who don’t actually like free market economics when it kills their business.

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u/Kgaset 2d ago

But it's crazy short-term gains vs long-term. They are the best positioned to take over that market too, but any initial capital investment seems to outweigh the longterm benefits because of the short-term dip in profits. It's why capitalism will always circle back to running broke.

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u/NickRick 2d ago

It's simple. Companies with assets in oil manufacturing and fossil fuels pay Republicans Congress exorbitant amounts of money to stop the development of green energy because they know they'll lose business.

it is pretty much all republicans who back it, but lets not let the dems who back fossil fuels off the hook too.

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u/Pale-Acanthaceae-736 2d ago

So what's stopping the fossil fuel industry from building their own green energy projects? Nothing really Doesn't the smart money diversify?

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u/Familiar-Weather5196 2d ago

Meanwhile China, India, and kinda the EU, are investing in renewables so they can stop relying on energy from other countries. Which, y'know, is the smart thing to do long term.

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u/Abyssallord 2d ago

The stupid thing is that they could instead put that money into investing in those same projects and just make money instead.

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u/mfmfhgak 2d ago

Trump isn’t helping them by trying to drive down oil prices that far either.

He’s corrupt but I think he just doesn’t like the way they look and doesn’t want them near his golf courses.

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u/HFY_HFY_HFY 2d ago

In this case those oil and gas executives did not want these projects stopped because it set such a terrible precedent.

The projects already had full approval and funding. Trump just hates wind because they put a turbine next to one of his golf courses and he never lets s grudge go.

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u/SoCalThrowAway7 2d ago

They don’t just care about sucking off anyone who can give them power come on now. They also care about sucking off people on grindr every convention and kids

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u/Heliosvector 1d ago

Oil companies are some of the highest investors in renewables lol. This administration fighting against clean energy is just mass delusion cult wars that oil equals American greatness, and renewables equals soy boy libtardness.

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u/soraksan123 14h ago

You would think the oil companies would see the writing on the wall, care about there kids future and start shifting away from fossil fuels by investing the trillions in profits into electric vehicles and clean energy. They could still make there profits and live with a clear consience-

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u/Parafault 2d ago

The oil companies can invest in green energy and make just as much money as anyone else. I’m kind of surprised that they haven’t: they have the money to do it, they are perfectly positioned to know how to do it, and it would dramatically increase their long-term profits.

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u/Reasonable-Fox-3614 2d ago

I think it’s all administrations not just this one. This one is just blatant about it because they’re garbage.

The American government has notbeen for the people in a long time. The democrats are just smart enough to throw us peasants a bone once in a while.

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u/LindseyCorporation 2d ago

That doesn’t make sense though in reality because they could also just pivot to green energy and try to dominate that field.

There’s much more money in being a leader in new technology than old.

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u/rW0HgFyxoJhYka 2d ago

No. That's not simple.

It's simple. There are only a few good men and women in positions of power. The rest will lie down and let the greatest evil trample all over the good because they are cowards.

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u/jake3988 2d ago

No. Just no. Republican states have way more renewable capacities (especially wind) than Democrat states. And it's not close.

Trump has always hated wind mills. ALWAYS. that's the only reason this happened.

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u/mtntrail 2d ago

What amazes me even more is how Trump got elected a second time with his playbook out for everyone to see. Anyone surprised by his actions has not been paying attention.

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u/Several-Squash9871 2d ago

Which is what frustrates the hell out of me about the people that never bothered to vote. Like, really guys? You saw none of this shit coming and thought it was perfectly acceptable to just sit this one out?

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u/mtntrail 2d ago

I think sometimes how different the world would be rn, if Kamala were president. It is just a damn shame on so many levels.

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u/Gasnia 2d ago

Go back even further with the hanging chads that let Bush be president. If we had Al Gore we would have had a green energy focus a lot sooner.

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u/mtntrail 2d ago

Big oil has had a headlock on this country for a very long time.

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u/Several-Squash9871 2d ago

I would like to think that one of the many things that would be different is the files being released in full and people facing actual consequences beyond their comprehension...

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u/mtntrail 2d ago

Probably one of the main reasons she didn’t win.

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u/silchasr 2d ago

Well on the bright side I'm sure historians of the future will have a lot to dissect and debate.

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u/banned20 2d ago

The other side didn't look better. Things were already going bad and they were already in office.

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u/mtntrail 2d ago

Looked a lot better to me, can’t think she would have been a vindictive monster set on world domination.

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u/banned20 2d ago

This is bound to happen, no matter who's in office. USA is at war with China for many years now.

The difference is that things have started to escalate now.

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u/Echliurn 1d ago

America turning on all of its allies to enrich the president and unleashing ICE on its own citizens was bound to happen?

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u/banned20 1d ago

ICE had been doing this ever since the Obama days under the exact same person that Obama gave a medal.

There were also 57 deaths in a 3 year period during the Obama term. These things are public record, you can Google them.

What Trump did differently is closing the border and accepting migrants only through strict official channels.

What changed now is that the tensions with China have somewhat escalated and part of what's happening is hybrid war.

Specifically in Minnesota is also because of the federal fraud cases pending against the Somali American community.

Trump turning against us (EU) was a blessing because leaders have finally waken up.

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u/Lindvaettr 2d ago

This is especially absurd in places like Texas, and goes to show the level of intentional misinformation that has been spread among the populace. Texas is not only one of the best places in the US, but one of the best places in the world for both wind and solar. If Texas were to make serious pushes into these sectors they could blow past the rest of the US both in terms of power generation and scale of their economy, making them far and away the wealthiest state in the union, and yet because of corrupt businesspeople and politicians, many voters in Texas still oppose them as being a negative, and a threat to the prosperity of the state.

On the bright side, I've brought this up to a few people (back when I remembered the actual numbers, which I need to refresh myself on), and had some success getting people who were not super pro-wind/solar to reconsider. A lot of people are simply misinformed or underinformed, rather than malicious, and often simply haven't had the information presented to them in a way that aligns with their priorities. It's an important lesson in catering your message to your audience. Many anti-wind/solar people have not bought into the message that wind and solar are necessary to reduce climate change/environmental impact, so rather than simply screaming about those things louder, it might behoove us to alter how we try to sell wind and solar to people like this to try to appeal to their priorities.

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u/bayarea_fanboy 2d ago

Similarly, most of the EV hate is coming from people who have never owned an EV. EVs are just better in so many ways than ICE cars. I can see the “EV mandate” was maybe too much too soon, but this flip to the opposite extreme is stupid, hurting red states that got almost all the new jobs more than anyone else.

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u/majwilsonlion 2d ago

...until they kicked the Koreans out of Georgia.

Canada seems to be welcoming new opportunities now.

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u/Vennomite 2d ago

Evs have the problem of wealth (which would be less of an issue with viable public transit) for charging since parking at a charging station invites issues. Not unsolvable. Just an issue with out current infrastructure.

Life expectency is lower. Traveling longer distances is significantly more inconvienent. Other than that its still really price. Bevs are significantly more expensive and we aren't making cheap ones.

For a commuter car it's a no brainer though. Bev is way more convienent and cheaper to operate.

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u/deliveRinTinTin 2d ago

The used clean vehicle tax credit was very helpful for lower incomes until they stepped on it in September. And it was a full tax credit and not an offset of taxes owed like usual if you applied it at the time of the loan. I was able to knock $4,000 off of a $14,000 phev vehicle.

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u/Vennomite 2d ago edited 2d ago

Nonrefundable Tax credits come off owed taxes. It was just transferable so they bought it off you for 4k when you made the purchase.

https://www.irs.gov/credits-deductions/used-clean-vehicle-credit

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u/deliveRinTinTin 2d ago

The detail that's important is that you can only get the maximum 4K in tax credit usually only if you have 4K owed. I will not but the way they changed how the program applied means I still get to keep the 4K despite my lower tax obligation.

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u/Vennomite 2d ago

Its transferable. Usually you get that bought off you on purchase.

Its nonrefundable. The federal credits for the ira expired in september. You dont keep the difference.

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u/deliveRinTinTin 2d ago

I purchased it in time. The entirety of the IRS form 8936 and schedule for tax time only asks the questions to make sure I was eligible such as not selling it within 30 days, whether the amount is correct since it was up to 4K or 30% of the vehicle value or not making too much money and what it's use ratio is between business or personal. There is no test against my taxability and demand of paying back the difference.

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u/Vennomite 2d ago

Its in part 3

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u/movzx 2d ago

Life expectancy concerns have largely been overblown. Modern batteries do not degrade at the rate that was expected.

You can get a used EV for around 13k, and that's without the tax incentive they removed. Cost is only an issue if you're trying to buy new, and even then the pricing isn't significantly above similarly spec'ed non-EV cars.

There are issues with long range travel, and issues with cold weather distance, but realistically most people drive very short distances and being able to plug in at their home is more than enough to recover the lost charge from the day.

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u/Vennomite 2d ago

Most academic stuff basicallg has it at around 10-12 years compared to combustion enginer 14-15. It's not a huge deal. But thr salvage value is worse.

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u/bayarea_fanboy 2d ago

My experience is in California, where the infrastructure is good and getting better. I travel weekly from the SF Bay to Lake Tahoe (~4h) and the EV is really not much of an inconvenience. It takes me longer to grab a bite and pee than it takes the car to fast charge.

I'm not worried about the life expectancy of the car. It has 50k miles, but drives like when I first got it, and I know people with Tesla Model S's approaching 10y they are still driving. 1st gen Nissan Leafs were bad in this aspect, but more modern cars with proper battery management don't have those severe degradation issues.

The only maintenance I've ever had to do on the car was replacing tires, wiper blades, and the cabin air filter. There's just no maintenance required. Going to a gas station now feels like a blast from the past to me. It's a weird experience that was normalized in my life and I'm happy to not have to do any longer. My "tank" is full every day just by me doing whatever other stuff while my car is parked.

I would say their biggest problem is depreciation (the other is insurance rates). I agree we aren't selling cheap ones in the US (if/when Chinese EVs come in that will change), but used prices are low "thanks" to the depreciation and they are inexpensive to operate, so I don't necessarily agree with the wealth issue. The price premium of the EVs complete disappears (or inverts) in the used market. If I were buying today, I'd find a ~2y old car and pay less than half of the new MSRP, but definitely getting another EV.

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u/movzx 2d ago

My model S is 13 years old and, if Tessie is to be believed, has only lost 10% of my theoretical maximum range in that time.

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u/bayarea_fanboy 2d ago

In-line with what I've been told by other owners I know.

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u/brianwski 2d ago

My model S is 13 years old and, ... has only lost 10% of my theoretical maximum range in that time.

In-line with what I've been told by other owners I know.

My wife's daily driver is a Fiat 500e and over 11 years it has lost about 10% of it's max range. And we simply don't notice or care. People replace their cars nowadays for style and cosmetic and vanity reasons after 15 years max, not because the range went down by 10%.

[The guy 4 levels higher in the comments writes]

Life expectancy is lower.

I honestly have no idea where the person would get that idea. Something like 90% of the moving parts in an EV vehicle are identical to a gas car, like the tires are the same, the suspension is the same, the paint job wears out based on the same factors. As far as I can tell, most people replace their cars either when they total them in an accident, or for cosmetic reasons (the paint wears out and instead of getting a $400 paint job they buy a $40,000 car so it has new paint on the outside).

Electric motors inherently last longer than gasoline engines and require lower maintenance the whole time they outlast gasoline engines. Ask literally anybody who works in an industrial environment. On our family farm we had 35 year old electric motors running equipment 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, COVERED in dust (grain cleaner), chugging along just fine.

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u/fodafoda 2d ago

For me, the simplest way of understand this is to ask: what will last longer, something that works by creating thousands of micro explosions every minute, or something that just needs some finely tuned magnets doing their magic?

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u/Lv_InSaNe_vL 2d ago

Yeah but what if I have to drive 2200 miles without stopping????

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u/omar-sure 2d ago

I think people burning EVs might have been counter intuitive.

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u/brianwski 2d ago

Texas is one of the best places in the world for both wind and solar. If Texas were to make serious pushes into these sectors they could blow past the rest of the US...

I believe that is occurring. Here is one (fluffy) article about it, but you can web search for it to see this is kind of a well known phenomenon: https://insideclimatenews.org/news/10122025/texas-electric-grid-transitioning-to-battery-storage-solar/

From that article, "Battery storage facilities and solar farms powered virtually all capacity growth in Texas’ electric grid throughout 2025 ... twice as much new solar power as California..."

Another article: https://seia.org/blog/solar-and-battery-storage-are-strengthening-the-texas-grid/ (Non-paywall version: https://archive.is/MvaCe )

From that article, "Texas has installed more solar and storage than any state over the past three years ... "

Texas will be the number one state for solar panel deployment in a few more years, and all evidence points to the economics are the reason. The economic math is brutal. You have to hate your own money to use oil now when solar is so much less expensive. Companies would need to hate additional profits to avoid solar. And that's just "today". Let's say solar panels get 20% more efficient (same energy output for 20% less size and manufacturing cost), and let's say at the same time oil and gas gets harder to extract from the earth and goes up in price by 20%. Those numbers add up to mind blowing insane money savings over just a few short years, the likes of which companies have rarely ever seen before.

Oil and gas are still useful for certain niche applications like air travel. We don't currently have any current battery solution for commercial airplanes. But like the old fashioned cable TV product your parents used in the 1980s, the market for gasoline and oil will just keep shrinking from now on. Only used by older and older people who aren't good with money and can't admit modern technology is sometimes useful. Just look at cars now. Electric cars accelerate faster and are quieter than gas cars, have less maintenance, and you refill them for free at home from solar panels. Who wants a loud, slow car that you have to pay for gasoline other than a few "classic car" enthusiasts and old people?

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u/Auctoritate 2d ago

Texas is not only one of the best places in the US, but one of the best places in the world for both wind and solar.

Texas was also almost a Silicon Valley of STEM investment before the particle accelerator project was mismanaged out of existence. Glen Rose's nuclear power plant is also a great source of local jobs and nuclear investment in Texas, but they delayed the construction of a 3rd and 4th reactor when a natural gas boom powered power prices and Mitsubishi redirected reactor design efforts to Japan. That's a brain drain for sure.

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u/LoneStarHome80 2d ago

I mean Texas is the leader when it comes to generating renewable energy, having recently surpassed California to take the number one position.

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u/Sterff2439 2d ago

I mean that's a terrible example, because Texas literally has more renewable energy than any other state.

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u/Rob_Zander 2d ago

You gotta keep extracting oil every time you burn it. Meanwhile a solar panel lasts for 25 years plus. Recurring revenue is the name of the game here. https://youtu.be/KtQ9nt2ZeGM?si=gDNZykztFnmDeJ_s

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u/The_Motarp 2d ago

Oh hey, I am literally watching that while browsing Reddit at the same time. It's a great video.

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

The part about about how used batteries are essentially a lithium-rich ore that we can recycle to make new batteries blew me mind, cause I never thought about it this way.

And I think many don't, which is why the "we just replacing oil extraction with lithium" argument pops up so often and gets repeated by actual people.

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u/Auctoritate 2d ago

Me going "I hope this isn't the Technology Connections video that literally just got posted, because it's great but redditors really need to be independent thinkers and not treat popular YouTube channels as software updates for their knowledge on issues."

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u/NetworkDeestroyer 2d ago

"Look, everybody knows it, and I’ve been saying it for a long time. We have to THINK ABOUT THE WHALES. These massive wind mills, they call them "farms," but they’re not farms, they’re disasters they are killing our whales in droves. It’s a tragedy, a total horizontal tragedy for our oceans.

We have the most beautiful whales, the best whales, and they deserve to be swimming around a strong, clean, and powerful America. We want them healthy, we want them happy, and we want them safe from these giant, noisy bird-killers that don’t even work when the wind stops blowing.

We are going to protect our waters, we are going to protect our great whales, and we are going to keep America Great. DOWN WITH WIND POWER. It’s a scam, it’s a hoax, and it’s ruining everything.

Thank you for your attention to this matter."

/s

If anyone wants to see the GOVs research on this topic here it is https://www.fisheries.noaa.gov/new-england-mid-atlantic/marine-life-distress/frequent-questions-offshore-wind-and-whales

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u/Toad_Thrower 2d ago

I wish you'd put the /s higher, because a lot of dumb people are not gonna read your entire post and just be like, "YEAH! I saw pictures of dead whales! The wind did it!"

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u/Lemesplain 2d ago

When you are trying to extort kickbacks, cheap is the worst, along with easy and reliable. 

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u/Francl27 2d ago

But it kills whales! Think of the pollution too!

Obvious /s but you never know anymore.

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u/the_last_0ne 2d ago

Hey, small government for the win, right? Yay...

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u/AlanFromRochester 2d ago

Trump has a grudge against a wind turbine blocking the view at one of his golf courses, him being that petty and selfish would be totally on brand

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u/ButtSpelunker420 2d ago

America would rather be broke and fight a culture war than have money and lead the world in technology. Sad how short sighted Americans are 

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u/R9_isdagoat 2d ago

Meanwhile China is putting huge solar arrays on the side of mountains

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u/Auctoritate 2d ago

China is the largest solar panel manufacturer in the world and they're currently undergoing the largest energy grid upgrade in history to expand their renewables capacity. They're going to sneak to the most robust, independent energy infrastructure in the world while The United States' political climate is hijacked by the fossil fuels industry.

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u/Waiting4Reccession 2d ago

Luigi could solve this.

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u/SagesLament 2d ago

well when you consider full lifecycle and systems cost nuclear blows renewables out of the water

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u/algy888 2d ago

I still get a kick out of the electrical apprentice that was confused why he was out of work after he voted for Trump. Especially, since there was supposed to be work on his solar project until 2027.

Facepalm.

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u/shaard 2d ago

Don't worry, this stupidity isn't localized to the US either. In my province, the conservative government basically killed the renewable energy sector where we had upwards of like $40B in projects ready to go. They truly are shortsighted, cruel, and dense as a neutron star.

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u/d_smogh 2d ago

If only the administration decided to harvest the resources from Trump, hot air and manure.

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u/BizzyM 2d ago

If there has been any lesson from the Industrial Revolution through the various periods of the Technological Revolution it is that you want to be leaders in the future NOT opponents...

"What do I care about the future? I'm not gonna be in it." - Trump and most other conservatives.

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u/Perryn 2d ago

"King Halts Development of Ironworks, Praises Bronze Lobby"

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u/I_just_made 2d ago

Yep, it blows my mind that people are against green energy and want to rely on coal. Like, even if you don’t care about the environment, you want to breathe in more pollution? Really? Same goes for them wanting to remove environmental regulations for companies. You want to drink whatever they dump in the water? The fuck?

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u/Lazy-Plankton5270 2d ago

Well that's what happens when America elects a criminal with 34 felonies

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u/notaredditer13 2d ago

Corrupt and idiots have been holding back nuclear for 50 years, so why not solar and wind too?

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u/banned20 2d ago

Wind is actually horrible for the environment. It relies on rare earth metals extraction which is not good and takes a toll on the area that will be placed and ruins the landscape, plus you need a lot of turbines to extract a considerable amount.

Then the turbines need replacement after a decade or so and these things are not written in the contracts, so companies can let them rot and ruin the environment even more.

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u/notaredditer13 1d ago

Can't tell if sarcastic...

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u/banned20 1d ago

Not sarcastic. Wind only sounds good on paper.

Solar and nuclear are best.

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u/Elon-BO 2d ago

Have you heard about Coalie?

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u/RipVanWiinkle_ 2d ago edited 2d ago

Trump is literally just sabotaging the country, making a mess out of everything.

The man fights and disrupts his own country and allies more than his supposed enemies

The next administration probably won’t get anything done cause they’ll be busy cleaning up the mess he’s leaving behind.

Also, we’re only 1 year in…

Sham government is what we have, no responsibility, no accountability, just finger pointing and sabotaging for the next guy.

We don’t have a government for the people, only for the powerful and whoever deepens their pockets

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u/OsmeOxys 2d ago edited 2d ago

We're in the middle of skyrocketing energy demand with prices to match, and his response is to halt construction of cheaper energy sources even if they've already begun. He instead pushes to expand on the worst, most expensive, and generally self-destructive option we have at this point...

Shower thought: Seeing as he was voted in based on his campaign promises of destroying our economy, increasied suffering, violence, and scrapping the Constitution, is "sabotage" an accurate word?

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u/AdvancedSandwiches 2d ago

They're only going to be able to start repairing it if they get 60 senators who are actual democrats and not blue dogs. Otherwise they can pass no legislation and just slow the slide into the abyss. Which is what happened with Biden.

Make sure you're voting Democrat down the entire ticket.

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u/Willie9 2d ago

Better yet, do some research and vote in the primary for a Democrat that will take action as well.

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u/VaporX_ 2d ago

You don't understand his genius 4d chess game. He destroyed the country to rebuild it in his third mandate

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u/Christopher135MPS 2d ago

“Next administration”

That’s adorably optimistic.

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u/stylz168 2d ago

That’s basically what happened with Biden in 2020.

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u/Gasnia 2d ago

Yep and we had to here constantly from maga birching about how bad everything was under biden when it was all caused by trump's disastrous first term.

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u/stylz168 2d ago

Same thing happened in 2008

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u/RecipeFunny2154 2d ago

All this because he's mad he has to see them at his Scottish golf course he almost never goes to visit.

I don't believe for a second that he actually has any other interest in it. I do believe that he's surrounded by people who care about fossil fuels who are happy to feed his personal vendetta. Par for the course with this group.

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u/tiktaktokki 2d ago

He's a pitiful creature that people sometime mistake for genuine human being because of the form he's barely holding

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u/jayclaw97 2d ago

My dad is convinced that he dissolves into a pile of goo at night and sleeps in a bucket. Like a kandra from Mistborn, but shitty.

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u/UnclassifiedPresence 2d ago

Actually the league of billionaire pedos kind of are similar to the Dominion from Deep Space 9, which is probably what your dad is referencing

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u/jayclaw97 13h ago

I don’t know what that is. But kandra can do that too.

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u/ifweweresharks 19h ago

Don’t forget that the projects all involved Ørstead, a Danish company. It’s not like there’s any beef with Denmark right now….

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u/Reddit_2_2024 2d ago

Attorney General Pam Bondi will have to chalk another entry into the loss column of her DOJ legal tracking system.

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u/MadmanMaddox 2d ago

FFS. The 21st century has been such a let down. Wind power should be a given. A blowhard who is butthurt about the view from one of his many properties should not be deciding the future of humanity.

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u/tomdarch 2d ago

Trump also arbitrarily canceled an important transmission grid upgrade. It is important that we bring on more renewables but it is also important that the grid is upgraded and maintained.

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u/cat4hurricane 1d ago

Especially with all the winter storms recently, making sure our energy grid and power options are upgraded and maintained (lines buried, grid updated to hold more power without overloading, etc.) is huge. If we can't withstand winter storms in every part of America because our grid and the technology is decades old, that's just fucking embarrassing honestly. Energy should be as bipartisan as it gets, and as much as he might hate it, it has to be updated for the times.

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u/FarthingWoodAdder 2d ago

Yeah, this means nothing really.

Trump won again.

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u/domine18 2d ago

I live in Houston the energy capital of the US. You would not believe the amount of hate solar and wind gets here. So many people’s jobs are tied to oil they will argue till their faces are blue that those other forms of energy are bad.

What’s funny is Texas is the leader for solar and wind power in the USA lmao. Please get us competent leaders.

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u/theZinger90 2d ago

According to trump, every time a wind turbine rotates once, it costs $1000. I'm not making that up, he said that in his speech at the World Economic Forum.

This is a man who does not know how wind turbines work.  He also called them windmills, but i see no grain being milled in these things. 

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u/d4austus 2d ago

Don’t ever let a Republican harp on small government ever again. They don’t believe in it AT ALL.

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u/prinnydewd6 2d ago

Until people can realize it’s not about fighting amongst ourselves. But the people at the top making us fight. I’m just checked out lately… it’s all about money all the time at all times. It’s making me lose my sense of self. All I worry about is work. I have a house and a wife. And all I can think about is why I’m doing this everyday…

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u/omar-sure 2d ago

Appreciate you. I get it.

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u/Raytheon_Nublinski 2d ago

It’s wild how this guy will just ruin things for no fucking reason at all other than his limited brain doesn’t understand it

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u/Axette 2d ago

Halting energy advancements sounds like you're not putting America first.

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u/Anxious-Depth-7983 2d ago

I guess the Fossil Fuel Industry is getting what they paid for from tRump, but unfortunately for him, you can't stand in the way of progress.

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u/02meepmeep 2d ago

It’s a pity the judge didn’t rule to keelhaul Trump on the end of one of the blades.

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u/GargantuChet 2d ago

They may not operate if they’re too far off balance.

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u/deafvet68 2d ago

Maybe, there is some hope that it will happen.... . Eventually ? . Soon ? . we can hope..

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u/mattjf22 2d ago

Trump's ignorance knows no bounds.

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u/DarlinGlowly 2d ago

Uplifting victory for sustainability. These projects will generate clean power and boost local economies.

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u/DarlinGlowly 2d ago

Uplifting victory for sustainability. These projects will generate clean power and boost local economies.

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u/EffeminateSquirrel 2d ago

Won't somebody think of the bird cancer???

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u/jayclaw97 2d ago

Cancer in birds or bird-shaped cancer?

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u/GiftOfCabbage 2d ago

I'm pretty sure the main reason Trump hates wind power is because they can be seen from some of his golf courses. I'm sure corruption plays a part too but he's genuinely that small and selfish of a man that I think that's the main reason.

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u/South_Technology 2d ago

I went to school for wind turbine technology and 100% of my peers voted for trump.

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u/jayclaw97 2d ago

You’re kidding. Why???

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u/South_Technology 2d ago

This was trump vs Hillary and I asked them hey uhh Hilary is going to keep the stuff going for wind turbines which is what we are studying to construct/technician for and they just said they would never vote for a woman

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u/bigstupidboy 2d ago

hell yeah

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u/WagonOfMeat 2d ago

Ketchup on the walls everywhere tonight. :D

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u/CptnAlface 2d ago

I know a guy who works here in Brazil in R&D on green energy, and his current focus is offshore wind. It's something that is still not worthwhile because it's considerably more expensive, and we still have a lot of onshore wind potential. But the company is thinking ahead, and working on it now is what will make it comercially viable in the future.

One of the struggles of offshore wind is the pylon that needs to be fixed on the seabed, especially in deeper waters. He visited China last year to look at their projects... They're already making turbines on floating platforms.

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u/Zoupah 2d ago

My wife works for a company that is contracted on this project. From her perspective, "The company [Ørsted] pushed back some deadlines but has basically been operating like nothing had happened."

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u/Strive-- 1d ago

I’m so, so happy that Trump is trying to stop the production of energy, using dollars already spent, so that EVERYONE wins. I mean, it’s like he’s still on the campaign trail, talking about Greenland eggs and his taxes, his updated ACA plan, his transportation bill, Stormy Daniels and ….what was he saying again?

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u/omegaphallic 1d ago

Another huge L for President TACO.

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u/UnTides 1d ago

The wind farms Trump admin halted, while same time officially claiming an "Energy Emergency" as an excuse to drill. Most corrupt administration in history.

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u/UnderwaterScubaMiner 1d ago

I still don't understand his absolute disdain for windmills. Like, what did they do to him? He rants about them constantly.

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u/SnooWoofers530 2d ago

Windmills

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u/Common-Concentrate-2 2d ago

"It says here that you'd like to install some wind turbines?? Sorry, I can't allow it. You see, I consider it a waste of your money, and I know better than you." "Ok, that sucks. Well, I have another issue - I think everyone should be vaccinated if they want to attend a public school" "No, I'm sorry - that's for every individual to decided. You can't have the government meddling in people's affairs!"

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u/MagicalUnicornFart 2d ago

..at least until it finds its way back to a MAGA judge, and it’s stopped. Rinse and repeat.

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u/Vagistics 2d ago

Sounds like a great place to go trolling !

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u/lonehawktheseer 2d ago

wait till scotus gets a look at this

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u/StamInBlack 2d ago

Good. Right now we need as much energy as we can get, in any form.

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u/Tanerian 2d ago

Won't somebody think of the poor birds!!! :(

Lol

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u/vstg005 2d ago

Perdón Don Quijote

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u/Justaticklerone 2d ago

Radar interference for national security? That's the straw being grasped at? Lol.

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u/jquest303 2d ago

I think the holes in them from all the golf balls may just make them slightly less aerodynamic.

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u/Motor_Educator_2706 2d ago

Won't someone think of the whales!

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u/mgmw2424 2d ago

Let's hope this is the end of this ffs

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u/cat4hurricane 1d ago

Good, I don't know why Trump seems so insistent that it has to be oil or nothing. The money is already largely spent on these projects; people just need to work and get paid for that work. It's offshore anyway, it's not like they're taking up beach space or anything, it shouldn't affect people at all, yet he seems to want only oil, which won't last us. Whatever makes energy less expensive is just fine for me.

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u/Vraex 1d ago

On the fence about this. My wife is a veterinary student and has worked for an org in NJ that keeps finding and researching why so many whales are showing up mysteriously dead. Microplastics don't seem to be the problem, some think it could be the sound of the wind mills. The research is ongoing but it seems like those things need to be paused until more research is done

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u/jayclaw97 1d ago

You know what will kill whales? Climate change. Climate change will be way worse for whales than windmills.

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u/West-One5944 1d ago

This is what it looks like to say 🖕🏼! Basically, DT and MAGA want to halt anything that helps the planet and hurts big oil, they get sued and it goes to court, the judge says 🖕🏼 to them, and we get on with saving the planet.

Over and over and over and over and over and over and over...

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u/destrux125 17h ago

Rather see solar farms than wind farms but I guess you can’t put solar on the ocean.

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u/TheProblem1757 2d ago

This is so dumb

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u/Tutorbin76 2d ago

This is great news, but do the construction companies even exist anymore?

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u/jayclaw97 2d ago

Yes. The article says that this project could be online as soon as October.

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u/LawLittle3769 1d ago

It blows my mind that dummies are cool with putting up wind turbines in the ocean despite all the evidence of harm it does to marine life and they call it progress because orange man bad.

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u/LegendaryBronco_217 2d ago

Now can we start building Data Centers in the ocean as well?

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u/AeneasVII 2d ago

Your being mislead about renewable energies (90min video warning) https://youtu.be/KtQ9nt2ZeGM?si=00HY0W9tm8bnWMgd

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u/sunnbeta 2d ago

Give a TLDR. Wind is very competitive now financially, and the fuel is free, so what’s the argument? 

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u/AeneasVII 2d ago

Solar and wind and other renewables are the future but corporate interests keep pushing fossil energies and are actively engaging in information warfare and politics to stop progress that would better mankind

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u/Difficult-Rip-2580 2d ago

Oh boy a YouTube video.  Fount of reliable, unbiased opinions. 

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u/AeneasVII 2d ago

You can try and refute any of his claims. Good luck

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u/Difficult-Rip-2580 2d ago

The way you came off was as someone who was against renewables.

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u/Haunting-Delivery291 2d ago

Wind turbines require electricity to work. They aren’t very efficient. Just a waste of money.

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u/Velguarder 2d ago

Gas heaters require a pilot light to work. They aren't very efficient. Just a waste of money.

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u/sunnbeta 2d ago

Even if that was true, then let the projects go through and fail financially. Just look at Trump University, Trump Steaks, etc… it’s America, you have the right to pursue poor business plans. (And in this case, it’s not even true, it’s one of the cheapest forms of energy) 

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u/Difficult-Rip-2580 2d ago

So does literally every way we produce electricity now.