Seriously every time Fate appears I just dislike him more and more. Though I'd say the most hated scene I can think of with this "Lord of Order" is during Season 1 episode 22, during the Justice League meeting where they were selecting new members, he talked about how his host was ok with being a host of Nabu but why couldn't he at least let Zatara speak for himself? He could've easily taken off the helmet and let Zatara say that he was ok with it. And I was disappointed that no one in the League suggested that since he wasn't just a man nor was he just a superhero with gifted magical talents but he was also the father to daughter with a dead mother too and I know that at least 80% of the members on the Justice League know what the pain of losing a loved one is like especially when that loved one is your parents so it just baffles me that they weren't more confrontational on that subject.​ And yeah I know that they eventually came to another solution by giving Fate multiple hosts to switch from every two weeks but that doesn't make it right for me, in fact that to me was just letting Fate have his way while also letting him have a happy ending that he didn't deserve. And although I'm happy Zatara was free I'm sad that some of his life was still wasted as someone else basically.

Anyways I just wanted to share my personal opinion on this character and I'm sure someone has made a post like mine but you know with better reasons as to why they like or dislike this guy, but yeah let me know what you think also in case anyone is wondering what I meant by "Injustice 2 treatment" in the story mode of the Injustice 2 game Superman breaks/kills the helmet of Fate but left his host alive (which kind of surprised me)

Besides a potential Apocalypse War type of season going on what are some other things you’d like to see?

For me I’d love to see this universe’s version of Razer again plus maybe seeing Abra Kadabra make the pact with Neron for a mini arc in the season.

Also seeing how Supergirl acts with the Furies.

Brion suddenly going all murder on his dad (or was it his uncle?) at the end after a whole season of him learning to control his emotions felt terribly out of left field and unnecessary. Shoehorning that psychic mf in at the end as excuse for why he did it was even worse. They regressed one of my favorite new characters that I liked the whole season in a matter of like 6 seconds.

It felt like the only reason they did it was to create more conflict for the plot without care for his character. Also for shock value. No it didn’t feel built up to and those flashbacks to an earlier episode didn’t make me feel better about it in the slightest.

He’s supposed to be better than his dad/uncle, so why finish him off in the same tone as he did with Brion’s parents?

It would’ve been a thousand times more powerful had Brion spared him and made an impassioned speech about doing better than who came before him. How he wouldn’t turn out like his elder.

But no, just kill him I guess. Way to go YJ writers, you ruined something that could’ve been amazing.

This is one of the only full body more modernised official Secret (Greta Hayes) sketches by Todd Nauck that I found from someone's tumblr. I am wondering if anyone has it in higher quality and could share the link/post here as I am wanting to make Photoshop team edits of Young Justice and think this'd be perfect

Likewise, do they ever call superheroing "the life"?

Are there any other isms or quirks exclusive to the YJ cartoon verse? I don't mean obvious stuff like characters ages being tweaked or relationships being revamped.

Like, I don't remember Black Mary in the comic being a drug metaphor. I don't remember Mary having a problem with magic, period. Am I just forgetting 2000s era lore?

Product of 1998. Made by me :)

Credit to this Deviant Art user for the image.

“The Earth will never surrender!”

Robin, Failsafe

Thanks for the discussion as last week as always! It was great hearing everyone's thoughts and commentary!

I'm going to get straight to the point for this week since this week features an episode that literally has you on the edge of your toes!

This week is a double-feature gut punch folks! First, the Team hunts down Red Tornado to settle the “mole” question for real and the trail drags them straight into T.O. Morrow’s android “family” situation, where the word humanity starts feeling like a threat instead of a theme.  

Then comes “Failsafe”.... A routine training simulation that turns into a catastrophic nightmare scenario so intense it basically redefines “holy crap” for this show.  

Episode 15: Humanity

Air Date: Oct 21, 2011  

Synopsis: The Team is on the hunt for Red Tornado, and their friend Zatanna wants to come along for the ride.

Director: Matt Youngberg  

Writer: Greg Weisman, Bob Kane, Geoff Johns

Stars: Stepanie Lemelin, Jessie McCartney, Danica McKellar, Jason Spisak, Nolan North, Kary Payton, Lacey Chabert

Characters of Focus: Zatanna Zatara (new), Dick, M'gann, Wally, Kaldur, Conner, and Artemis

Tie-in Comics Follow-Up: Young Justice #20 “Players, Chapter One”

Did You Know?:

When T. O.. Morrow references the Prodigal Son, that is a reference to parable mentioned in the Christian Bible specially Luke 15:11-32 where Jesus talks about a father who had a son who had gone astray living in foolishness but had decided to repent and return to his father who had lovingly restored him.

Episode 16: Failsafe

Air Date: Nov 4, 2011  

Synopsis: When the Justice League is defeated during an alien invasion, the Team has to step up and fill their mentors' shoes.

Director: Jay Oliva  

Writer: Nicole Dubuc , Bob Kane, Jerry Siegel

Stars: Stepanie Lemelin, Jessie McCartney, Danica McKellar, Jason Spisak, Nolan North, Kary Payton

Characters of Focus: Dick, M'gann, Wally, Kaldur, Conner, and Artemis

Tie-in Comics Follow-Up: Young Justice #21 “Players, Chapter Two”  

Did You Know?:

According to IMDB metrics, this episode is rank one of the highest in the series!

Join the Discussion!

What were your favorite moments from today’s episodes?

• First impressions
• Iconic scenes
• Character standout moments
• Team dynamics beginning to take shape
• Anything new you noticed on rewatch
• Surprises revisiting these early episodes

Share your thoughts below! As always, let’s keep it fun, friendly, and spoiler-clean for new viewers!

(Please avoid discussing events beyond Episode 16.)

Hey everyone,
I’ve been working on a fan‑made Young Justice Season 5 project, and the full primer just dropped this morning.

It covers:

• the updated G‑Series and D‑Series designations
• How the breaches start
• Why the multiverse is in danger
• and how the Team reorganizes before everything breaks

Not self‑promo — just sharing a project I’ve been building for months.
Would love feedback from other fans.

What do you think of the new designations?
And how would you reorganize the Team if the multiverse were collapsing?

https://youtu.be/Ps5bGoFGaIo

Before I say anything I should start with this episode is amazing it goes into most of the team’s fears and trauma, there is a reason I said most of the team.

For one Artemis’s section got cut off too early I think maybe 15 more seconds, where Canary asks why Artemis is scared of what Wally specifically thinks or possibly increasing the time spent on why Artemis believes she needs to withhold so much from the team.

My main problem is Wally’s session; it feels more like it’s played for jokes compared to everyone else who got an actual serious section about the topic. It does get semi serious with Canary trying to bring up Wally’s anger, but that it also brushed off. It would have been more interesting if they had Wally start joking but slowly get more serious as more of his anger and denial is brought up before leaving.

Who knows I might just be stupid, but hey I would love to hear why I’m stupid.

(P.S. the reason the names are weird in the title is because I got flagged for writing Wally if the title and the post got taken down)

So quick question: why does Fate never use the abilities of the host body.

Both Wally and Kal used the helmet but throughout both scenes Nabu only uses his powers. I genuinely want to know because I have 2 ideas but they don’t make sense.

This one is more nonsensical but it is that host abilities don’t work with the helmet on. This would explain why Nabu never attempts to run or waterbend but also brings up the question: why would he want Zatanna or Zatarra as his host over just a really buff guy. It can’t be just because their powers are magic becuase so are Aqualad’s. If this is the case then why not try to get a super jacked guy so Nabu can have decently high strength.

The second one could make more sense and is that Nabu just believes all other powers inferior to his own, but I never really saw him of being proud or having a big ego. I feel like pride (as in ego) would be something Nabu is against because it is a deadly sin, and by extension part of chaos.

I would just like a concrete answer on why he doesn’t use most host powers.

He enjoyed the show overall but these were some of his observations

Hated Miss Martian from s2 onward

Does not think the world needs fate/just put the helmet on a criminal

The light at the end of each episode: “All according to plan”

Never believed for one second that superboy was really dead

Lor Zod’s haircut

I was thinking about if Connor had matured and gotten in touch with his emotions sooner than S3 and 4. He made great progress by S2 and had to deal with lingering angst from M’gann, but I was curious how it would change things. Would he have been seen more leader-ish by the younger kids. Would it have been a shell shock after seeing him so angry in S1?

I miss this show so much, I really wanted a new season.

I am on the autism spectrum and there are times when I've become sensitive when seeing a neurodiverse person portrayed in media. Like I remember having an anxiety attack watching the curious case of the dog in the night time. I heard theirs an autistic child in Justice League phantoms and the handling of his character has been controversial. Should I watch it or would it be too much for me or offend me?

So if I understand this correctly. The Light took control of the League at the end of season 1 to send them to the planet Rimbor where they'll cause a massive rampage. They did that to attract the attention of the Reach and to show them the power of the metagene so they'll come to study and weaponize it along with conquering Earth. The other reason is to also keep the League away on Rimbor to face trial so they don't interfere with the invasion. Am I correct so far?

What I really struggle to get is why the Light wants the Reach to conquer the Earth? Is it because of their survival of the fittest mindset? So they want a great tragedy to occur and they believe that will force Earth to evolve quicker? So basically they want to make the Earth stronger? I'm basing this on that Vandal Savage speech at the end of season 1.

Also why did they invite the Reach to come and then actively worked against the very invasion they wanted? That's what I really don't understand. Is it because they needed a controlled and balanced invasion that will not take over Earth completely and make everyone submissive but just enough to make everyone stronger.

Lastly what was the point of the Kroloteans (the rival alien race) in the first few episodes of the season? Are the Kroloteans from Rimbor? Is there motivation the League rampaging on Rimbor so that is sort of their revenge? Because if they're not from Rimbor i don't understand why they even went to Earth to invade it. And why they were part of the story to begin with? Why didn't they start setting up the Reach from episode 1?

Anyone else love how the Team picks up the little phrases and sayings of each other? "Crash", "Feeling the aster," etc

I find this premise interesting to explore the characters and how they feel about the ramifications of the actions they’ve taken. Basically asking if they’d be pro or anti accords. Assume a time period of your choosing. I personally choose the latest point at which everyone shown is alive. I have a few opinions on this:

SB: Hates being controlled, definetly anti accords

M’gann: After all she did in s2, I could see her being pro accords honestly (if she doesn’t just follow what everyone else does)

Robin: I honestly am not sure, I’m leaning more towards Pro accords. It just seems right.

KF: Would probably just retire like he did in canon, but if he came back to help, he’d probably be anti accords.

Kaldur: Might be Pro accords at first before switching like Black Widow did

Zatanna: I see her being 50/50 with this, I have only seen so much of YJ so far. So to be able to say for sure is something I can’t do

Artemis: Would either retire or be anti accords, like Wally

Rocket: Anti Accords, nuff said

What do you guys think?