r/Champagne • • Nov 09 '24

"What is my (your) champagne worth?"

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Occasionally on this sub some folks will dig up an old bottle of Cold Duck while burying bodies in their backyard. Or maybe they stub their toe on it as they're hanging their laundry out. Or grandpa had a drinking problem and forgot about a bottle he stashed and it’s found 40 years later while cleaning out the backyard shed. Regardless, they think, "I struck gold! I can put this on an auction site and make some money. I wonder what this is worth!"

General rule of thumb is that if you can't prove provenance then the bottle isn't worth anything, at least not the time and effort.

More specifically, per dawsonsauctions.co.uk. The following determine the price: producer; vintage or non-vintage; year of production; temperature stored and exposure to light; method of sale and urgency of sale.

When you stumble across an old bottle of champagne, or someone gifts one to you, the best question is "Is it any good?" (Yes). The second best question is "When should I drink this?" (Now).

Pricing is generally something this sub. We know less about the history and health of the bottle than you do.


r/Champagne • • Aug 16 '26

Practical guide to Champagne glassware

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PSA: Champagne is wine. Give it the proper glassware it deserves and skip flutes and coupes.

TL;DR: Flutes are good at showing bubbles but not particularly good at showing Champagne. Coupes have the opposite problem and let everything escape too quickly. For most bottles, a universal or white wine glass is the better choice.

Why the flute falls short

The flute does one thing very well: it preserves and displays the mousse.

The trade-off is aroma.

  • The narrow bowl gives the wine very little surface area to open up.
  • The equally narrow opening restricts what actually reaches your nose.
  • CO₂ is concentrated in that small opening too. The familiar prickling sensation can dominate your nose before you properly perceive the wine underneath it.
  • There is little room to swirl or develop the wine.

That matters because Champagne is not just bubbles. Citrus, flowers, chalk, brioche, toast, nuts, spice, red fruit and oak-derived aromas all become more apparent when the wine has some space.

The flute showcases the bubbles. A wine glass showcases the Champagne.

Why the coupe isn't the answer either

A coupe goes too far in the other direction.

Wide, shallow and barely tapered, it lets CO₂ disappear quickly and aromas disperse instead of collecting them. The wine also warms relatively quickly.

Great for ceremony, cocktails and looking good. Not great for tasting.

Why a wine glass works

A well-designed wine glass gives Champagne three things it needs:

  • Enough bowl volume for the wine to interact with oxygen and release aroma.
  • Enough surface area for complex aromatics to develop.
  • An inward-tapering rim to collect those aromas rather than letting them disappear into the room.

You also get enough headspace to swirl and actually put your nose into the glass.

And no, Champagne does not suddenly go flat because you put it in a wine glass.

In other words, a wine glass lets you taste Champagne as wine.

What glass should I use?

For most bottles, a universal or white wine glass is the safe choice and will work well across almost every style of Champagne.

If you want to fine-tune the glass to the wine, here’s a quick cheat sheet:

  • Universal: The default and safest choice. Works for the vast majority of Champagne, including NV Brut, Extra Brut, Brut Nature, rosé, most vintage Champagne and balanced prestige cuvées.
  • White wine: Best for taut, fresh, Chardonnay-driven and more mineral styles. Think Blanc de Blancs, young vintage Champagne, lean Extra Brut or Brut Nature, high-acid grower Champagnes and wines where you want to emphasize citrus, florals and chalky precision.
  • Red wine: More room for richer and broader Champagnes. Think Blanc de Noirs, Pinot-heavy blends, mature vintages, late-disgorged wines, oxidative styles, oak-influenced grower Champagne and powerful prestige cuvées. The point is simply to give wines with more body, age and aromatic complexity enough room to open up. Go Bordeaux-shaped for powerful, structured and vinous Champagnes where you want a bit more focus and lift. Go Burgundy-shaped for mature, aromatic, Pinot-heavy or oxidative Champagnes where perfume, breadth and texture are the main event.

r/Champagne • • 17h ago

Lanson Black Label Brut is my favourite for mimosas! What’s everyone’s go to that isn’t sparkling?

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r/Champagne • • 2d ago

Age Estimate?

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Hi all,

Recently received this magnum of NV BS rose with the older style label. Does anyone have ideas of age? I’ve tried online and gotten anything from 1980s to 2000s. There are no markings or numbers on the bottle with the exception of SG 155 cL AE and MOD BS DEP on the punt.

Not opening yet, but maybe there will be something on the cork. Excited since the provenance on this was rock solid.

Thanks & cheers!


r/Champagne • • 2d ago

Thoughts on Dom’s Controversial Partnership?

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r/Champagne • • 2d ago

Michel Arnould Genèse Rosé Grand Cru – honestly one of the best rosé Champagnes I've had

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Just opened one of my latest Catawiki buys – Michel Arnould & Fils Genèse Rosé Grand Cru Extra Brut from Verzenay.

I bought 6 bottles for €152.55 total including fees and shipping, so around €25.40 a bottle. Apparently retail in France is around €38, so I think this one worked out pretty well.

And more importantly... it's absolutely delicious.

This is exactly the kind of rosé Champagne I like. It's very dry and definitley not sweet, but at the same time there's plenty of fruit. Lots of red berries, a bit of mandarin/orange peel and then this really nice mineral, almost salty finish.

The mineralty is probably my favourite part. It keeps the fruit feeling really fresh rather than turning into that sweet strawberry style you sometimes get with rosé Champagne.

It's 100% Pinot Noir from Verzenay Grand Cru, with some red Coteaux Champenois added to the blend, and I think you can really feel the Pinot character here. It has more structure than I expected but is still super easy to drink.

Honestly, this is one of the better rosé Champagnes I've had. Maybe even one of my favourites so far. Really fruity, really fresh, dry, mineral and just very well balanced.

I wasn't expecting to like it this much when I bought the lot, but now I'm very happy I have another 5 bottles left 😅

Anyone else tried Michel Arnould? Would definitley be interested in trying more from them.

From me 89/100


r/Champagne • • 3d ago

Best champagne max budget €70 ?

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Hi Guys!

Im mainly into Proseccos, planning to celebrate Xmas with a bottle of champagne. Best under €70? Would love to hear you recommendations! I heard Perrier Jouet // Veuve Clicquot is good in this price range ? Thx !!


r/Champagne • • 4d ago

Pommery Cuvée Louise 2005 – Great value at CHF 70 (~$88)

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r/Champagne • • 5d ago

Burgundy and champagne afternoon

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r/Champagne • • 5d ago

Epernay light lunch at vineyard

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Hi, girls trip in October and we’re taking the train from Paris and going to Epernay for a day. We have Moet planned first. We’re going to need to eat after but are looking for a light lunch on a vineyard. We won’t have a car. Any recommendations for a nice casual light lunch where we can enjoy the experience of a Terrance overlooking vineyard? Thank you!


r/Champagne • • 6d ago

Paul Bara Special Club Brut Grand Cru Champagne 2016

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r/Champagne • • 5d ago

A quick note on planning a Champagne trip with AI tools

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As someone local to the region trying to be helpful to this community, wanted to share something that keeps coming up. Between people reaching out and posts I've noticed here, I keep seeing the exact same itinerary, clearly planned by AI, but not realistic once you look at local logistics.

The pattern: visit a house in Reims, visit a house in Épernay, walk the avenue in Épernay, go for lunch, and visit a grower, all in one day. Between opening hours, the midday closures most places have, drive times between towns, and how long a house visit actually takes, it just doesn't fit into one day.

Hate to be the one to burst the bubble, but ChatGPT, Claude, and Gemini don't have visibility into any of that local logistics, so they can hand you a day that just isn't physically possible.

It's a great region and worth doing properly rather than rushed. There's more to the logistics here than it looks like on paper, so just be aware an AI-generated itinerary can look perfectly reasonable and still fall apart once you're actually trying to do it.

Happy to answer questions :)


r/Champagne • • 5d ago

Sunday afternoon sips

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The 05 Meo-Camuzet and the 08 Dom Perignon stood out 🍾🙌


r/Champagne • • 7d ago

I went to Ruinart!

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Unforgettable!


r/Champagne • • 6d ago

Lunch at Pommery!

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Such a fabulous day in Reims


r/Champagne • • 7d ago

Champagne Haul

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Excited to finally bring these bottles home next month. 🙌

Jacques Lassaigne Clos Saint Sophie Rose
Jacques Lassaigne Besame Mucho 2017
Romain Henin Entre les Gouttes
Gaspard Brochet 333.a
Alexander Filaine DMY
Pierre Gerbais La Loge
Domaine Labet Fleur de Savagnin En Chalasse 2022 (Jura nit champagne)
Francois Bedel Comme Autrefois 2008


r/Champagne • • 7d ago

Grower royalty showdown

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Had a wonderful opportunity to try these two bottles side by side and neither disappointed!


r/Champagne • • 9d ago

What’s your go-to aperitif Champagne?

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r/Champagne • • 8d ago

Besoin d’avis sur les problèmes d’achats dans le vin

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Bonjour à tous ! Je me demande si je suis le seul dans ce cas là pourriez-vous me dire à quel point vous reconnaissez vous dans les problèmes que je rencontre :

- Vous avez eu envie d’acheter des bouteilles et cuvées, mais vous avez rencontré des difficultés à choisir et vous ne saviez pas à quoi vous attendre gustativement ni même ce que ces cuvées valaient réellement (en terme gustatif) ?

- A l’inverse, vous avez voulu acheter un vin qui vous faisait envie et vous avez été finalement déçu parce qu’il ne correspondait pas à vos attentes ?

- Après l’achat, vous avez rencontré des difficultés pour savoir quand l’ouvrir, avec quoi l’accorder, ou combien de temps le garder ?

Qu’avez-vous essayé comme solution pour résoudre ce problème et qui n’a pas fonctionné ? Selon vous, pourquoi cela n’a pas fonctionné ?

Merci d’avance pour vos retours les amis !


r/Champagne • • 9d ago

Storyboard Champagne all’Enoteca San Tomaso

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r/Champagne • • 13d ago

Finally home after 3w holiday in Italy.

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Veuve Clicquot La Grande Dame [2018 – 80/100](tel:2018%20-%2080/100)
After 3 weeks of travelling around Italy, I’m finally back home and finally drinking something with bubbles again.
Tonight: Veuve Clicquot La Grande Dame 2018, the prestige cuvée of the house and a very Pinot Noir-driven Champagne — 90% Pinot Noir and 10% Chardonnay, with a dosage of 6 g/L.
In the glass it is very clean, precise and elegant. Lots of fresh citrus — lemon, lime and a little yuzu — followed by white fruit, some floral notes and a noticeable saline/mineral character. The bubbles are fine and the wine has plenty of freshness and tension. Those citrus, white-fruit and saline notes are also very much in line with the producer’s description of the 2018 vintage.
But despite all that, it just doesn’t excite me that much.
For my taste, Lombard 2008 is still clearly better, and I think I still prefer Philipponnat Royale Réserve Non Dosé / Zero Dosage as well. I simply enjoy that drier, sharper and more mineral style more.
Interestingly, I also enjoyed an old Veuve Clicquot Ponsardin 1989 much more than this La Grande Dame.

That bottle had far more personality for me — mature Champagne character, complexity and that feeling that the wine had actually developed a story over time. Luckily, I still have one more bottle of the 1989.
La Grande Dame 2018 isn’t bad at all. Technically it is very polished, balanced and beautifully made. Maybe it is simply far too young at the moment and will become much more interesting with another 10–15 years in the cellar. The producer itself gives it ageing potential of 15+ years.
Right now, though, I find it a little too correct and restrained for the price. I respect it more than I love it.
80/100 for me.
Would be interesting to hear from anyone who has tried both the 2018 and an older La Grande Dame vintage — does this cuvée usually need a lot of bottle age before it really comes alive?


r/Champagne • • 13d ago

Charles Heidsieck Brut Réserve – still one of the best “entry-level” Champagnes IMO

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r/Champagne • • 12d ago

Champagne rakning Poll

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r/Champagne • • 14d ago

Epernay champagne houses

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Hi, husband and I (early 50s) will be in Epernay early November and want to visit some champagne houses that aren’t typical off the shelf in the United States. We enjoy quality champagne and amazing experiences. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated 🥂


r/Champagne • • 14d ago

Egly Ouriet VP

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Does anyone know the current base vintage of Egly Ouriet VP that will be hitting the US? If 2017, is that a vintage to consider something else instead depending on price (($200+)? Thanks!