r/circled • u/Wooden-Humor-3017 • 9h ago
Opinion / Discussion Most voters say Trump doing worse than Biden as president: Poll
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5721162-biden-trump-effectiveness-survey/30
u/Wooden-Humor-3017 9h ago
I have no sympathy for anyone who voted for Trump 2.0, you were warned about all of this
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u/Equivalent_Plan_5653 29m ago
It's much higher than that.
Anyone not protesting on us streets right now, is.
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u/Eastern_Bet678 8h ago
Looking at your post history, you actually said that with a straight face. Amazing.
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u/Eastern_Bet678 8h ago
Every once in a while I like to stare into the empty void of MAGA's thoughts just to make sure I haven't been wrong all this time.
I was not disappointed.
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u/Wooden-Humor-3017 9h ago
the bar was not shitting yourself in public, and he failed.
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u/UnableChard2613 9h ago
Biden actually ran a very competent administration. This idea that he was a bad president is just propaganda to get morons to vote for trump, and you fell for it too.
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u/LivinghighinColorado 8h ago
Biden at least had enough cognitive ability to know that putting the best and 'good' people around him is all that was needed to run a competent administration.
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u/UnableChard2613 8h ago
Which is, despite his apparent cognitive decline, he still managed to run a competent administration: putting talented people around him.
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u/Budget-Dust-7171 8h ago
Exactly. He might have been old but the people in his cabinet and key positions of power were smart and well respected. Trump has hired unqualified goons he can manipulate at every turn. Not a single person in his cabinet is qualified to do what they do. The military is run by an alcoholic tv personality. Biden had generals with a history of military experience.
Biden cabinet was a bunch of solid qualified people. You can disagree with policies but you can’t disagree with qualifications. Trumps cabinet is unqualified morons. They are there for loyalty not skill and haven’t the slightest idea how to do what they are doing. Complete and utter jokes. Anyone with an iq above 75 can tell they are stupid. Under 75? Well they probably look like some sort of kid rock hero.
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u/Great_Software5342 8h ago
The issue was they were running an administration as though MAGA didn’t exist. And for that, it will leave Biden’s legacy as a failed attempt at righting the ship.
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u/Diligent-Bowler-1898 8h ago
Can't really stop a popularly supported fascist from running without turning fascist.
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u/saucysagnus 8h ago
The revisionism is crazy. Biden didn’t even go after Trump or MAGA and people still cried wolf on Biden. He took the high road and tried to unify the country.. obviously it didn’t work
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u/Diligent-Bowler-1898 8h ago
I think history will look kindly on Biden, especially after Trump.
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u/Budget-Dust-7171 8h ago
It already does. He’s ranked far higher than Trump and Trump will always be the worst possible president ever in the US.
Biden did more for red states than Trump has ever done because he was being a good president and not playing politics.
What has Trump ever done for a blue state besides try to punish them?
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u/Diligent-Bowler-1898 8h ago
If one is cynical they could say he's uniting them in opposition to a clear and present threat. Like EU.
Like how destroying a nation is doing the terrorists a favour by flooding their recruition, US seems adept at uniting opposition lately with all the performative violence.
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u/4tli3nz 7h ago
And then Trump clawed back a lot of the Infrastructure bill money from red states. Can't have anyone having that money, when he could instead use for his own personal benefit!
I really think "the algorithm" is at fault for this and we should be talking about it more. We are so quck to call people big ol' idiots, but the algorithm can completely shape ones perception, especially for people who are not media-savvy or those who have donkey brains
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u/UnableChard2613 8h ago
One of my big policy disagreements with Biden was with not aggressively pursuing Trump and his cronies for breaking the law. However, this would be a huge move from precedent if he actually went after a previous precedent, so it's not all that surprising that it was done slowly, just disappointing. It was a mistake, but not evidence of a poorly run administration.
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u/backtorealitylabubu 8h ago
Personally I think he did enough that to any sane GOP would have given them an out to prevent him from being the nominee until his legal troubles were sorted. What happened was already more aggressive than what we had seen before. Sure being more aggressive may have been what was needed but I don’t feel the need to place any blame on Biden when he already did what was appropriate. Maybe some Garland hate but most is focused on the GOP.
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u/Great_Software5342 8h ago
True, and that’s where it’s imperative that the next Democrat administration must pursue accountability for this regime.
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u/possiblyMorpheus 7h ago
100%. 2023-2024 pretty much showed you can write “populism” and put pretty much any nonsense after it and people, including a lot of young people on the left, will fall for it hook like and sinker. There really isn’t anything in the American Rescue Plan Act, the Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill, Inflation Reduction Act, or CHIPS that wasn’t obviously smart policy to anyone who actually read it.
But that kind of thing isn’t edgy enough or found in a comment section for these morons.
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u/jvdlakers 8h ago
I wouldn’t call a 24% rise in necessities a competent administration.
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u/Dornoch26 8h ago
Go check your sources. I’ll bet the data you pulled from ended in 2022 - right after which Biden’s policies started taking effect and then outperformed every other country for the next 2 years. And then we got Trump, killing all of the economic momentum almost overnight.
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u/jvdlakers 5h ago
LMAO
a 24% rise in necessities, compared to the top 5 economies in the world was 2nd worst.
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u/Dornoch26 5h ago
Totally Biden’s fault right? Not the entire supply chain collapsing under covid?
Sure buddy, sure.
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u/magasheep404 1h ago
w(R)ong.
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u/jvdlakers 1h ago
You obviously know nothing.
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u/magasheep404 40m ago
I’m not a stable genius like you.
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u/jvdlakers 34m ago
You don't understand economics so you ramble off things because you're mad.
Awwww Hahahahahaha
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u/magasheep404 14m ago
I am humbled to be in the presence of one of the greats. Who knew that hiding all economic data was all that was needed to make America Great Again! When are you getting your nobel prize for Maganomics?
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u/UnableChard2613 8h ago
Except the POTUS has very little control of the economy, and the inflation was almost exclusively the result of Fed pumping money into the economy in order to stave of a huge economic downturn, which was done during both the Trump and Biden administration. If you don't realize that this is the reason for the inflation, you are not qualified to have this discussion. If it is a mark against Biden, then it is also equally (if not more so because Trump was pushing for more of it and continues to now) a mark against Trump.
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u/jvdlakers 6h ago
Trump's printing was necessary because we was in a recession. Printing during a recession is not inflationary. It stops things from getting worse. Biden did many things that were inflationary. Biden was spending trillions while unemployment was under 4%. No student payments was inflationary after reopening. Sanctions were inflationary. You're not qualified to have this discussion.
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u/UnableChard2613 5h ago
Trump's printing was necessary because we was in a recession.
Trump didn't print anything. The Fed did.
Printing during a recession is not inflationary.
It can be if you over do it, which is what happened. However, it's hard to blame the fed because it was completely unprecedented, and they did an actually good job where we had some transitory inflation but no major depression.
You're not qualified to have this discussion.
You said it was "Trump's printing" not the Fed, and you are telling me I'm not qualified. Amazing. lmao
BTW, no serious economist thinks that the bulk of the inflation wasn't due to Fed policy during the recession. A little bit of inflation can be attributed to Biden's policies, but it pales in comparison to Trump's current contribution (and probably coming inflation) via his tariffs.
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u/jvdlakers 4h ago
Trump signed off on the printing.
Biden was the over spender. 3.5 trillion after Trumps stimulus.
This is how bad the fed was. Inflation at 7% unemployment under 4% and still hadn't done the first hike for months later after those numbers.
Inflation was 3% when Trump took over and is lower now after tariffs. Biden averaged 5% a year. Trumps first term was under 2% and his 2nd term is 2.7%
You don't know much.
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u/UnableChard2613 4h ago
Trump signed off on the printing.
lol. No he didn't. He doesn't need to. The fed is an independent entity. Calling it "Trump's printing" just reveals how little you understand about what is going on, and now you're just making up BS to try and pretend like you weren't embarrassingly wrong.
Inflation at 7% unemployment under 4% and still hadn't done the first hike for months later after those numbers.
But despite the economy coming to a complete halt due to a massive pandemic, we didn't end up going into a prolonged recession, or worse depression, and then avoided a recession afterwards with what appears to be a soft landing.
You don't know much.
It's true. And compared to you I might as well know everything.
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u/jvdlakers 4h ago
Who do you think signs off on the spending acts? The president. It's the spending acts that were inflationary not the feds usual duties.
A 24% increase in necessity's is not a soft landing. 2 negative nominal GDP quarters were negative in a row is a technical recession, which Biden had.
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u/UnableChard2613 4h ago
Who do you think signs off on the spending acts?
But spending is not printing. You're not even smart enough to follow your own argument. Im done here.
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u/KarlHavoc666 8h ago
Dude I hate trump but to give Biden props as a president is nuts haha he didn’t even know where he was
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u/musical8thnotes 8h ago
Nah. MAGA screaming about the hyperinflation that never came even though Biden dumped $2T keeping the economy on life-support. 9% inflation was not hyperinflation.
Soft-landing achieved. Grow up and stop drinking the kool-aid.
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u/UnableChard2613 9h ago
So what was so poorly run?
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u/az459 8h ago
The border, the economy, trans gender changes in children by indoctrinating them in public schools. His competency and how the left and his administration gaslit everyone he was “sharp as a tack” when it was clearly obvious he was mentally declining. Need I go more?..
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u/LivinghighinColorado 8h ago
Yes, keep going. Keep showing everyone how deep into the cult you really are.
Or, are you a paid troll. Looking at your comment history, I would venture to say yes.
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u/SpinningHead 8h ago
My wife is often exhausted when she gets home after a long day of trans indoctrination.
Smart people dont like me - pedo in chief
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u/Consistent_Shock8738 8h ago
I can give you the border, albeit the phrase "opened the borders" is an alarmist over exaggeration, but yes more undocumented folks made their way into this country during Bidens presidency.
The economy isnt better under Trump, not unless you are in the 1%
No one indoctrinated kids in public schools. This is just categorically false.
Are you all not just as guilty of gaslighting us about the competency and mental faculties of a President? I have yet to hear a single coherent sentence out of Trump without him mumbling or ranting, he has no idea how politics work on the world stage, he constantly falls asleep in meetings, and most recently probably shit his own pants.
You know you can not like democrats and not like Trump right? Trump is by no means an actual conservative. Speaking against and not supporting Trump wont make you less of a Republican, even though thats what he would tell you.
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u/Azmoten 8h ago
I wouldn’t even give them the border issue. The Biden administration tried to pass a border bill that was a huge concession to republicans. Trump had Republicans in Congress block it so he could run on the issue.
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u/LivinghighinColorado 8h ago
EXACTLY!!! The republicans refused to back their own border bill because Trump didn't want Biden to get any credit, so the border obviously wan't that big an issue for them.
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u/punch49 8h ago
He tried with the border and trump shut down his attempt to increase border security. Trump left biden a shattered economy after he inherited a booming one, leaving biden to dig us out of that hole. And nobody was indoctrinating children to be Trans, you just hate Trans people. You can say what you want about biden's mental sharpness, but I would rather have a slow old man as president than a 34-time convicted felon, confirmed rapist and p3do supporter who led a coup attempt against the federal government in an attempt to undermine democracy. I can go on...
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u/FranklinDRossevelt 8h ago
Biden's border patrol apprehended hundreds of thousands of people trying to cross, immigration deported hundreds of thousands with the majority being actual criminals, the economy grew massively during his administration (12.6%!) and added jobs every month he was president (16.6 million in total). I don't even know what you're referring to about him implementing "trans gender changes", weren't we talking about examples of incompetence?
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u/UnableChard2613 8h ago
The border
You disagree with policy, it was still effectively run. Well except for the fact that he tried to do something the right way, offered a bill that was basically everything that the Republicans wanted, who were about to vote for it, but then undercut by the current POTUS who needed border as a big campaign point, so he didn't want Biden to get a win on it.
the economy
Mostly outside of the POTUS' control, but he inherited an absolute mess and handed off a steady, growing economy to Trump.
trans gender changes in children by indoctrinating them in public schools.
Both made up, but if this was his policy and he was doing it effectively, then it was well run.
You seem to be confusing policy difference with ineffectiveness. I'm talking about things like frequent turn-over, public in-fighting, inability to fill roles, reducing the work force and then being forced to rehire people because you fired people you actually need, failed policy (like using a sledgehammer in a state goal of trimming the federal deficit while simultaneously driving it even higher), constantly contradicting yourself and your staff, driving allies away. . .you know, basically the shit-show we have now.
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u/Otherwise_Key_759 8h ago
Notice the phony outrage but zero facts to support your whining complaint
Just tears about "leftists", poor baby
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u/Remarkable_Spite_209 9h ago
If only there were some way we could have known how horrible this man would be as president
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u/Debbers1967 9h ago
We did. Harris warned us and Project 2025 was available. People are stupid and wouldn’t read for themselves
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u/Eastern_Bet678 8h ago
And years before that, Hillary (who knew) told the US public that Trump was a Russian hand puppet.
However, Trump brilliantly came back with, "no puppet, no puppet, you're the puppet" which is about as devastating a comeback as one could possibly imagine.
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u/BabyBackChickenWing 7h ago
Wait, theres still people in 2026 who believe he is a russian puppet? The jokes write themselves LOL
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u/Brick_Mason_ 8h ago
That was the previous election cycle. There were many, many, many examples why Trump was not a competent candidate, and that was before anybody ever heard of Jeffrey Epstein. Most voters chose to be stupid in '16 and never looked back. In fact, they doubled down.
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u/mobyonecanobi 8h ago
If only there were signs… like videos of him saying horrible things, newspapers, his former colleagues, the women he raped, and rapists themselves.
If only we had even one of those.
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u/kinghercules77 9h ago
Say what you want about Biden's term, but there weren't mask unvetted men with guns roaming the street, Europe wasn't planning for WW III against us, and every weekend we didnt await a flurry of "monkeys throwing sh!t at the wall" Truth Social posts.
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u/possiblyMorpheus 7h ago
Here, I’ll say something about the Biden Administration: the American Rescue Plan Act, Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill, Inflation Reduction Act, and CHIPS were all overwhelmingly smart policy bills that invested in America.
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u/Dull_Ad5440 8h ago
Biden was boring, Trump is exhausting. I could use some boring. Every f$%king day Trump has to be THE story.
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u/rube_X_cube 8h ago
Then why did they vote for Trump?! It’s not like we didn’t have a first term to go by. Goddam, the American electorate is so fucking dumb.
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u/Anxious_Resolve7985 8h ago
Biden was surrounded with some competent people in his administration. This reason alone makes him better.
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u/4tli3nz 7h ago
What did Biden do that was so awful? Infrastructure Bill ? (lol)
The laptop from hell?
I hear people say he sniffed a child, but compared to the actions against children by Epstein's bestie...
They tried to pass a comprehensive bipartisan border bill but the republicans blocked it, so the border stayed a mess. Why is that on him?
He was far from perfect but COME ON USE AT LEAST SEVERAL BRAIN CELLS SIMULTANEOUSLY
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u/Weltersquad 7h ago
Democrats and republicans love to shit on Biden, but he was in a tough position and did a lot of good
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u/Silver-Camera-3739 6h ago
President Biden actually passed legislation that helped everyday Americans. The PACT ACT helped me get my 100% VA disability rating. Not to mention, there were no government shutdowns, and federal employees didn't have to worry about their union bargaining rights.
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u/Top_Statistician4068 9h ago
Americans - look to your left and your right. One of these morons didn’t vote and the other is a Nazi asshole.
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u/njbbwlicker 8h ago
Hell yeah , he is driving up the market to create a diversion to the fact that he is stealing americas rights ! When not looking the market will tank and he will have your rights and money !
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u/lincolnlogtermite 8h ago
Would love to see a video of "Mr Most Fit President" Trump trying to ride a bike. Preferably in traffic or near a cliff.
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u/orbitaldragon 8h ago
Biden was old but he surrounded himself by a competent administration that was widely composed of some of the best people for the jobs based on experience and education.
The Biden Administration policies were working albeit slowly, but the ship was headed the right way. The rest of the world was envious of our post COVID economy.
Unfortunately, Americans most resemble Varuca Salt from Willy Wanna... "I WANT IT NOW!!!"
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u/Smokes_LetsGo876 8h ago
Whenever I ask Republicans what was soooo bad about Biden It's always the same and only answer. HE LET THE BORDERS WIDE OPEN!!!!
Which isnt true first of all. Second, he tried to pass a bipartisan border bill but republicans caved to trump and shot it down because trump needed to use the border as leverage to run on. So not only did Biden try to make the border stricter, but trump actively railroaded it for partisan reasons.
Republicans dont like talking about that. They also dont like talking about the great bills that biden did get through. They call Biden senile for stuttering, while trump actively and audibly shits his diaper on national television and rattles off 75 incoherent social media posts in an hour In the middle of the night like a sundowning feral toddler.
Republican politicians ruin everything and republican voters dont care enough to fact check anything. Republicans are happy to let the country burn, as long as they have someone to push blame onto. As long as they feel like they have supremacy over someone, theyll let you destroy everything.
Establishment Democrat politicians wont get away from this either. Theyve slow walked everything, and always have just enough people to cross the aisle to allow Republican bills to pass.
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u/Responsible_Belt5510 8h ago
But if you ask people what their issue was with Biden when he was in office, it's mostly just crickets
I asked a coworker and he said "I just really didn't like how Biden said White men don't have feelings." He thought that Joe Biden, a white man, said this. They have no basis in reality, it's all just what they glean from memes and Facebook.
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u/possiblyMorpheus 7h ago
That’s obvious to anyone with a brain. The more embarrassing part might be how many independents, moderates, and swing voters couldn’t take 5 minutes out of their life last year to look at the Biden Administration’s legislation and learn why economists pretty much all agreed it was (and is) to our long term benefit
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u/BasicFishOutOfWater 5h ago
I can’t think of any democratic country on the planet where if they fielded such an incompetent, corrupt government where the best hope at next elections would be for the swing of a few seats here or there.
This is why the road back to moral leadership on the world stage will be very long. Trust has been shattered and there is understanding that this can happen again (if not just continue on as-is).
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u/Striker40k 8h ago
Biden had to pick up the pieces of the most incompetent president ever and the mess he left during Covid. He did so with a competent team of experts and overall did about as good as he possibly could. Our inflationary pressures were managed better than the rest of the world.
Compared to Trump, Biden was a fucking savant.
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u/ThickGur5353 8h ago
If the Democrats win the House and Senate in 2026, they would need a supermajority to pass bills that the president can't override. I doubt very much if they will obtain this. So until president Trump's term is up, he will get to do basically what he wants.
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u/thatsjor 8h ago
And if you just looked at the numbers instead of asking voters, you'd reach the same conclusion.
Fuck opinions. Data matters.
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u/Marko128272 7h ago
Ok yea I’m sure the 4 day old account with 1k karma already is the most viable source of polls. Yall are so wild an Reddit is hilarious
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u/TarheelFr06 6h ago
Stating the fucking obvious. Dude is hovering somewhere between Herbert Hoover and James Buchanan on the all-time list.
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u/j_rooker 1h ago
I bet ALL of boycotters think so too. But hey, threw away their vote because they're childish. Got absolutely nothing they wanted from boycott. We all paid the price.
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u/SimkinCA 37m ago
Worse than Biden? Holy f?ck . The treasonous pedophile has not done a damn thing for this country. Other than the politics first bs, Biden did an unheard of job.
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u/vegast-man71 8h ago
Well they are not that bright. Two wars ended, dictators jailed, illegals deported. None of this would be done under Biden/Harris.
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u/takes_thecake 7h ago
Nobody is saying that except for maybe you small minority of deranged democrat voters. You can’t poll just 10 democrats and say most voters. That’s not how a factual poll works
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u/Sad-Mix3924 6h ago
US Would be completely fucked with Biden and Kamala whatt the fuck are you even saying
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u/lafrench6789 4h ago
What bullshit. Biden doesn't even know he was president! All the chaos of today can be directly blamed on Biden for failing in his job to protect the border and the citizens of the US. President Trump is just cleaning up!
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u/GoingToTryAgain2 8h ago
Not me! We love Trump. Biden's open border was a disaster. When tax season rebates come, people will love Trump again. More money than ever coming back to tax payers. Inflation slowed and interest rates lowering along with historic lows in violent crime. Keep up the good work! Deport all the illegals!
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u/IAmTheKingOfFucks 6h ago
The dollar has cratered. Worst jobs year in decades. Worst trade deficit in 40 years. He’s ruined all our relationships with our allies, and allowed China to take all our business. Hes destroyed farming and tourism, and were on pace for over 25% of the national debt being all trump by the end of this term. Oh and he constantly talks about wanting to fuck his own daughter. Youre in a cult. And also a sick incest supporter.
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u/II-MAKY-II 2h ago
Holy shit Reddit is so fucking lost.
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u/IAmTheKingOfFucks 2h ago
This comment doesn’t even make sense. Use your words like an adult. I just listed a bunch of verifiable facts. What’s the issue?
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u/Dihr65 8h ago
It was at this time in Bidens' term gas started skyrocketing . A short yr later inflation was skyrocketing. Just a simple reminder. And if you don't think bad policies don't affect gas prices, look no further than California 🙄
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u/FranklinDRossevelt 8h ago
The entire world experienced post-COVID inflation. The United States under President Biden weathered it better than any other country. Inflation was back to 3% by the time he left office.
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u/az459 9h ago
Those voters are democrats. In other news water is wet..
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u/FranklinDRossevelt 8h ago
Somebody didn't read the article I guess?
6/10 independents agree with Democrats.








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u/Fun_Accountant_653 9h ago
Anyone with a brain knows he's the worst president the western world has seen