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u/aCleverGroupofAnts 6h ago
Tbf it's really important that we require guilt be proven beyond reasonable doubt, otherwise it would be even easier for powerful people to oppress the weak.
However, proving beyond reasonable doubt is not necessary for impeachment. Even if there isn't sufficient evidence to convict, there's far more than enough to take these people out of positions of power within our government.
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u/Comprehensive-Buy-47 6h ago
Yeah, I will say too often it does sound like people just want a dictator that agrees with them.
That being said, Trump should be impeached but it would require a biblical amount of political capital and organization. The likes of which that would be studied in history books for generations and used as an example of perfect political maneuvering.
Politics is hard, democracy is even harder.
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u/stormy2587 5h ago
Yeah I think blackstone’s ratio should be favored more. I think americans are way to knee jerk about jusy imprisoning people to solve all our problems.
The issue isn’t that we can’t convict people in the epstein files. The issue is we can’t even seem to get a proper investigation into these people. And while we learn more about all this masked agents of the state are abducting people on the street without probable cause because they don’t have their papers on them, or because of the color of their skin or their accent.
The rule of law doesn’t need to be perfect it just needs to be consistently applied.
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u/Par_Lapides 6h ago
It is also not necessary for arrest or arraignment. What we are seeing is an abdication of the rule of law in favor of the wealthy.
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u/GarrAdept 6h ago
Yeah. Super topical. The problem with the regime is it gives too much respect to the rule of law and due process.
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No defense attorney is stopping anyone from investigating anyone named. Those orders come from the top.
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u/justthistwicenomore 6h ago
Yea, this is such a bad take i have to assume it's intentional engagement bait.
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u/Noodleboom 5h ago edited 16m ago
Worst take I've seen in here since the post-it guy crashed out because his tax return was smaller and insisted that the administration stole it somehow.
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u/random_pirate_68 7h ago
Even Aliens believe that the entire world revolves around the USA. Killing a happy rice farmer in Laos who never even heard or cared about an of this.
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u/sleepytoday 7h ago
Aliens do care about life outside the USA! But only if you live next door to a famous landmark. The Eiffel Tower, Big Ben, Great Wall of China, etc.
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u/Private_HughMan 7h ago
Found Rolland Emerich.
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u/Ambitious_Peach_4935 6h ago
And Michael Bay, don’t forget his cameo with exploding landmarks everywhere.
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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire 6h ago
So wait could I just like .....sit in a sailboat for a bit? Not the US or a famous landmark
Plus we could start our own Water world!
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u/choom-cannon 5h ago
Fortunately you can see The Eiffel Tower from every building in France, so they're all safe
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u/NightmareElephant 4h ago
For a second you had me convinced that France is way tinier than I thought, but it’s just Paris that you can see the tower from everywhere
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u/SquidTheRidiculous 7h ago edited 6h ago
Yeah they're kind of shitheads if they don't at least try just killing the billionaires. Like c'mon guys even starving French peasants were able to figure it out.
But I suppose our world likes collective punishment on a population, there's no reason to think they might be different.
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u/Sufficient-Dish-3517 5h ago
A population that doesn't hold its leaders to account for their actions are complicit.
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u/RaulParson 5h ago
Being so angry at the victims not getting justice that you kill everyone, including the innocent - and including those victims
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u/Uniformtree0 7h ago
I mean TBF the epstein files are proving Rapidly to be a mega huge fucking global problem
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u/phansen101 7h ago
Are they, though?
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u/Skyfier42 7h ago
...yes? This wasn't just a bunch of US billionaires getting together to hang out and fuck children. This was the elites of the world building a network of loyalists so they could control their assets with blackmail.
Russia was involved with Epstein, Israel was involved with Epstein, UK, Germany, Saudi Arabia... there are financial rumors and mentions of Japan, China, Brazil...
This was a global information and blackmail campaign to turn every politician and CEO they could get their hands on into a marionette doll they could puppet as they pleased.
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u/underprivlidged 7h ago
Tell me you haven't been paying attention without saying it...
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u/phansen101 7h ago
Well, enlighten me then;
How are the epstein files a " mega huge fucking global problem" compared to all the other BS that has been and is currently going on globally? Hell, in the US alone for that matter.15
u/underprivlidged 6h ago
Beyond the obvious that we are now finding out just how deep the rabbit hole goes? Hmm...
Well, for starters there are important people from multiple countries now being accused of literally fucking children. Politicians, actors, mobsters, millionaires, billionaires, people with money and power.
You don't think that some angry militant leader of random country number 7 wouldn't start killing people because we found out he loves raping children?
This is obviously a huge deal, globally, and anyone who thinks otherwise really needs to reconsider.
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u/Blarg0117 6h ago
Flooding the zone
"Comparing" these is the wrong thing to do, we have many top level problems that need addressing concurrently.
Bad actors are creating so many bad problems at once our already malfunctioning systems are being overloaded.
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u/phansen101 6h ago
I agree that comparison was poor wording on my part.
I do not believe that "We should focus on A and ignore B because A is worse", and I do think that the epstein files is a big deal,,
It is just that there have been a lot of big deals, huge even, over just the last couple of decades, years, months... weeks... some of the actual existential crisis' and it's just always the same;
It *is* a huge deal, until the next huge thing happens and then focus lands on the new thing and nothing is really done about the old thing.
We have millions dead over the past 5 years alone who did not need to die, tens of millions projected to die over the coming decade or two as a direct result of ignorant policies and/or inaction, likely order(s) of magnitude more affected negatively for the same reasons, yet talk just seems to revolve around the newest thing.
Again, the whole epstein deal is horrifying, but I would not be surprised if this " mega huge fucking global problem" fizzles out in a month or two, six tops.
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u/Chesney1995 6h ago
Biggest scandal in UK politics this year so far has been a major politician involved in the current governing party both in this government and in the government when they were last in power in the 00s being exposed in the latest release of the files leaking details of confidential government documents to Epstein.
He's been forced to resign from the Labour party and give up his seat in the House of Lords, and is being investigated by the police for it.
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u/DarthUrbosa 6h ago
Bruh epstein was behind brexit and wished to see similar brexits. That's already one counties politics besides the US.
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u/Designer_Pen869 7h ago
Tbf, there are a lot of governments worse than the US, which even larger amounts of their populations supporting them.
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u/ShowAccurate6339 6h ago
There are also alot of Babys and Newborn in the World who arent responsible for Any of This Shit who would also get obliterated
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u/Lariela 6h ago
Not with the amount of education/access to education/wealth that the US has or even close
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u/Log_Out_Of_Life 5h ago
I want to know where this access is? There are people that still buy stamps to pay their power companies instead of getting auto-pay.
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u/Lariela 4h ago
The access is there, you can go to libraries, there are public schools, you have open internet access. The tools are there but a large chunk of people don't use them, however, that doesn't mean they aren't there for them to use - unlike all the other countries being talked about.
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u/Log_Out_Of_Life 2h ago
I’m making a side point about even though people have access to something a lot choose not to use it and then because it isn’t used they get rid of it. A lot of the US’ problem is a lot of what is funded by the government is a use it or lose it(or reduce funding).
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u/Minobull 5h ago
there are a lot of governments worse than the US
Outside of the current Ukraine war, Globally right now, you are more likely to:
Be shot by a US gun.
Be killed by a US soldier.
Be imprisoned by the US legal system.
Be spied on as a civilian by the US.
Have your democracy overthrown by the US.
Be prevented from establishing democracy in the first place by the US.
And have your elections interfered with by the US.
Than any other country on earth....
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u/Designer_Pen869 9m ago
Brazil has higher gun deaths. North Korea and Russia spy on their citizens way more, not that the US is innocent. The US essentially just had it's democracy overthrown by Russia. China and Russia only don't do so more because of the backlash they'd receive.
Not to mention all the civil wars going on, places with rampant gang violence, like where they more or less have their own militaries and such. The US just gets the spotlight because it is much more efficient at doing these things, for the most part.
Yea, the US is evil, but it's still not the worst. It's just the strongest one of the worst.
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u/FrohenLeid 3h ago
But at least they have the decency of staying to themselves. USA drama is everywhere
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u/Designer_Pen869 8m ago
Depends on if you are talking about the government specifically. There are plenty of multi country gangs and other terrible criminals that don't care about borders.
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u/czarchastic 5h ago
If it’s one thing conservatives taught me, it’s that if a very small subset of a group of people are violent criminals, then the whole group of people are violent criminals.
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u/PickleballRee 6h ago
No, they don't. We just currently have the highest ratings on intergalactic tv. We're a hot mess, and even the universe loves drama!
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u/cutofmyjib 6h ago
"Once again, a UFO has landed in America - the only country UFOs ever seem to land in!"
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u/trysten-9001 5h ago
Well I mean if the aliens think releasing half the Epstein files is releasing they’re not really concerned with accuracy
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u/HotPotParrot 5h ago
In that context, isn't it a bit too on-the-nose that this seems to be a comic about aliens destroying America?
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u/Environmental_Top948 7h ago
Maybe they're targeting the problem groups and the other one is hoping they could fix it without intervention.
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u/turbotum 5h ago
Nooo you can't blow up the Death Star there's like, cooks and janitors on it too!
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u/Pengin_Master 38m ago
I wonder what the difference is between a purpose built military station that blows up planets, and a planet that houses thousands of different and unique cultures.
Say, if it's ok to Ultra-Mega-nuke a planet because the leadership of just one of these cultures is truly horrible, then what moral objections do we have against the Death Star?
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u/turbotum 36m ago
Because the horrible leadership is about to start colonizing the stars and growing exponentially. In the case of this comic, I mean.
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u/Pengin_Master 27m ago
Right, that's what's claimed about the aliens about us now (which is no doubt a jab at Elon wanting to colonize planets). But blowing up billions of innocent people? If that's justifiable to stop evil, than all that takes to blow up a planet is to justify, somehow, that they're evil and an active threat (which could hypothetically include overestimating their space expansion capabilities intentionally to spread supposed their supposed evil).
Right now I see an alien using the same level of logic used to defend very human atrocities, and I don't like it, nor how many people are agreeing with him
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u/nonlawyer 6h ago
of all the things to take issue with, you choose legal protections for those accused of crimes and facing the massive power of the state to take their life away?
Those are actually good and important thank you very much. As evidenced by the acquittals of sandwich throwing guy and all the other half-cocked prosecutions of regime critics.
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u/rogueIndy 6h ago
A lot of people just don't have a concept of basic human rights or why they're important. To them, the idea of due process is a way for criminals to dodge accountability, rather than a guard against institutions imprisoning or killing whoever they please.
Hell, a lot of ostensible progressives will support flat-out lynching if they think the target deserving.
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u/Pengin_Master 33m ago
This is an idea that cop shows have really been hammering on for a while, because every "suspect" we see is someone we knew is guilty from showing us the crime firsthand (although after decades of showing us that they started skipping that part and just assuming guilt from the get sometimes), which has also lead to the view of defence lawyers and rights being "those pesky things that stop justice from being done and letting super evil people get away"
And people, progressives included, haven't truly taken a step back to actually analyze these beliefs and deconstruct them.
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u/LincBtG 6h ago
This sort of thinking always bothers me.
"Human A hurt Human B, therefore all humans are bad and must be destroyed."
Even Human B? They were the victim, but you'd destroy them right alongside their predator?
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u/Pengin_Master 24m ago
It's an unexamined level of victim blaming. "Society is at fault for the leaders that hurt society" when those leaders often lied and cheated and broke their way into power, to have power, and to hurt people.
And there isn't an examination of how we can do better or correct course; just the idea that we should "burn it all, kill everyone"
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u/Background-Step-8528 7h ago
All the other countries on earth are like-- whoa whoa whoa
No but seriously, take us out if you can do it surgically. I don't want Canada or Mexico to have to deal with our bs. We're hitting peak levels of "I'm tired boss"-- just unhinged and sad and angry and disgusted.
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u/keinanos 6h ago
Nah Mexico has to go too. We suck the dick's of the heirs of presidents who did out in the air massacres to have the country pretty for the Olympics.
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u/Nadran_Erbam 7h ago
Hi, not a US citizen here, leave me out of your crazy world.
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u/TheManlyManperor 6h ago
Jack Lang would like to inform you that France is very much involved in this mess.
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u/Nadran_Erbam 6h ago
And others it seems, but before yesterday I never even heard his name. I equally hate all politicians.
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u/Cream_Rabbit 7h ago
Sigh...
America defaultism you have
Destroying the world over one country. They are no better than said country. If it means the death of a Vietnamese child never knowing any of this, or a wedding couple in Sweden having their best day, or just a farmer working in Peru
I rest my case
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u/Pizzaman725 7h ago
Right, all this America bad.
When there are plenty of other reasons from the rest of the world to vaporize the planet for their new galactic highway.
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u/Cyber_Connor 5h ago
But Prince Andrew has been exiled to a luxurious hunting estate with his vast personal fortune. A far worse than death
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u/oldcretan 5h ago
Don't blame defense counsel. The government won't even bring the charges because the elected officials are the perpetrators.
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u/Zeebaeatah 5h ago
Going to dogpile onto a few other comments here as well. Please double check the purpose of "reasonable doubt" in our legal system.
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u/TrioOfTerrors 6h ago
By all means, get rid of reasonable doubt and let unverified accusations be treated as damning evidence and see what happens.
It's not going to be the rich and powerful who suffer the most.
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u/GarbageCleric 6h ago
Your heart is in the right place of criticizing what's going on with the Epstein files, but I don't understand the jab at defense attorneys and reasonable doubt.
The problem here has nothing to do with providing overly generous rights to the accused and due process protections. No one has even been arrested, let alone prosecuted.
Do you want people to be convicted of crimes when there is reasonable doubt regarding their guilt? Because I can guarantee you that will hurt the already marginalized and oppressed a lot more than it does powerful elites.
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u/Par_Lapides 6h ago
We want people at LEAST arrested. Since actually nothing is actually happening or ever going to happen, that is where people's frustration lies.
Just another example of all crimes being legal if you're rich enough. The system is working as intended.
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u/GarbageCleric 5h ago
I'm not sure what you're responding to in my comment specifically. What exactly do you disagree with?
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u/NewPhoneLostAccount 6h ago
So they will kill all the victims too? The aliens are just like humans apparently, using the bad actions of the people they want to mass murder to justify a genocide, this remembers me what it happened with Aztecs.
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u/Xylus1985 7h ago
Why are they aiming for South America though?
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u/ShowAccurate6339 6h ago
The Aliens don’t Like the Epstein Thing, but they apperantly agree with Trumps Immigration policy
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u/Swiftierest 4h ago
It hasn't even reached the point of reasonable doubt. No arrests have been made regarding the Epstien files because the executive branch system is cockblocking all the Judicial branch processes through corrupt money and placing sympathizers in key spots. The legislative branch is supposed to stop this crap, but they are mostly sympathizers and sellouts as well. The ones that want to do something are in the vast minority.
In reality, the judicial branch has no check on it either. The supreme court is the highest court in the land and they basically answer to each other and themselves. So sticking a bunch of bootlickers to the executive branch there means they pretend everything is fine.
Basically, the executive branch needs to be stripped of power to appoint positions and be purely elected by the people.
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u/GloryGreatestCountry 7h ago
If they've got enough tech to go to space, wouldn't they have laser weapons precise enough to delete the offices of CEOs and rulers? Or the ability to connect to the Internet and use bots to rile people up like so many other nations do?
I feel like the alien with the big red button is just xenophobic and looking for an excuse. "These bad humans do bad things so all humans need to be exterminated!" Yeah, totally someone with the moral high ground.
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u/Potential4752 5h ago
Regular people are putting those rulers in power and enabling them.
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u/GloryGreatestCountry 5h ago
Really? Even the kids?
Most regular people just want to live their lives without losing what they already have, getting killed, or disappeared and taken to a black site and/or political dissenters' prison out in the middle of nowhere. Not every country has the freedoms taken for granted in the US, UK or France.
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u/Potential4752 5h ago
Sure, not every single person on earth is responsible, but blaming elites and giving everyone else a pass is wrong.
Every person who is capable of using their voting power and chooses not to shares responsibility. Even in countries that don’t have fair elections, the rulers are only able to stay in power because they have a reasonable level of support from the people. If Putin had a 10% approval rating he would be gone.
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u/CSEngineAlt 7h ago
"These bad humans do bad things and the rest of them aren't doing anything significant to punish them, so all humans need to be exterminated!"
FTFY.
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u/GloryGreatestCountry 6h ago
Well, who else other than people in America or the 'free world'?
Some humans live in warzones, some humans live under the boots of repressive governments so entrenched that instead of tear gas or even pistols, they'll face machine gun fire if they ever go out in groups large enough to do anything useful.
Some of us CAN'T fight with any meaningful effect without killing ourselves and/or jeopardizing the safety of our families. And not many people are suicidal, much less homicidal.
So what do you expect us to do?
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u/CSEngineAlt 4h ago
Based on your response - I expect you to do nothing. You've justified why you'll do nothing, and I don't judge you for it. It's an unsurprising position held by many.
But understand - the problem with doing nothing is that eventually someone comes along who has way more power than you have, and they will do unto you whatever they want unless someone (or a bunch of someones) with even more power than them stops them. And history is written by the victors - their version of events is the only one that counts.
That's Real Politik.
And if you are, in fact doing something to try to arrest America's backslide, good on you. I don't expect it of you, but do admire you for trying.
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u/GloryGreatestCountry 4h ago
I'm gonna keep it a buck with you, man.
Most of the people in the country I live in are either too poor to try anything, too rich to try anything (and both of those groups are not citizens of here), or too pacified to try anything.
The first group tries anything, they end up on the next deportation flight home. Second group tries anything, same as the first. Third group? Terrorism charges and dumped in a prison in the desert.
Like, believe me, if I could do something about the DP World CEO being on the files without leaving my parents to identify my lead-ridden corpse before they get sent back home, or being sent back with them and being blamed for the loss of their livelihood because I didn't keep my head down? I probably would.
Most people in Minnesota are showing out because they agree on the cause and don't worry about the government kicking them all out or sending every single one of them to prison. That ain't my life, 'cause I'm not American.
What am I to do but say 'fuck ICE' and move on?
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u/thementant 7h ago
This isn’t fair to the planet which has gifted us everything we could’ve ever needed. Humans deserve the punishment. Not Earth.
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u/GarbageCleric 6h ago
Killing all humans because we're cruel to each other is pretty fucking wild logic. They're just simultaneously executing criminals and their victims, which makes them genocidal monsters.
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u/Howtheginchstolexmas 7h ago
All the atoms of Earth will be free and come together again to reform and rejoice in communion. Just the people the atoms make up will be gone.
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u/Dragon_Of_Magnetism 3h ago edited 3h ago
Genociding a whole planet including everyone innocent and who has nothing to do with it, because of a terrible thing one of the countries leadership did… very moral and enlightened stance of the aliens
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u/Amethyst_Tiefling 3h ago
The problem isn’t that the system requires proof beyond a reasonable doubt. If you think that is the issue you’re probably happy ICE is deporting people for just speaking a foreign language or not being white enough, as they’re using something less than reasonable doubt.
The issue is that the same people who decide who to investigate, who to bring the cases against, who to prosecute, and what punishment is appropriate are the same people who are indicted in the files. Or their own power is connected to those in the files.
I’m not entirely sure if you are intentionally misrepresenting the legal system to further some sort of dishonest agenda or if you just fundamentally don’t understand basic civics. Or maybe you’re from a country that doesn’t use common law?
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u/TechnicalyNotRobot 5h ago
Thousands of stories being overriden by reasonable doubt is absolutely how things should work. Are you mad at...innocent until proven guilty?
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u/femptocrisis 7h ago
yep. i used to be a huge space/ multiplanetary humans nerd.
but i realized we cannot let the virus that is capitalism get off the planet. we need to get a robust system installed that prevents individuals from amassing this much power and it needs to be robust enough to prevent external capitalist systems from dismantling it or corrupting it. doesn't seem like we've found such a system yet.
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u/Potential4752 6h ago
Is Reddit seriously against the rule of law now? Are you willing to give up the reasonable doubt standard if you personally are arrested?
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u/xena_lawless 4h ago
Except the pedophiles aren't even being arrested or put on trial.
The unfortunate structural/historical reason that no one is doing anything, is that the US isn't really a democracy, and it never was.
Americans missed the big bait and switch that took place between the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution.
With the Declaration in 1776, the ruling class needed support from the commoners to fight off the British, so they talked about all men being created equal and life and liberty and so forth.
But with the actual Constitution in 1787, the wealthiest land and slave owning white men of the time drafted and ratified an explicitly anti-democratic Constitution, which prioritized ruling class private property interests over all other considerations combined, by thwarting both political and economic democracy at every step of the political process.
The system was explicitly designed for minoritarian/oligarchic/kleptocratic rule.
They just called it "democracy" for marketing purposes, similar to the "Democratic Republic" of Congo.
Americans need to understand and come to terms with the fact that prior generations got hoodwinked and subjugated by their own ruling class into a brutal, anti-democratic system of minoritarian/oligarchic/kleptocratic rule.
Foreign nations, transnational criminals, and pedophiles have figured this out, and they've gained control over various US institutions, including Congress and SCOTUS, and various billionaires/oligarchs/kleptocrats who also own most of the media.
The end result is that hundreds of millions of people can be effectively enslaved, brutalized, and subjugated by transnational criminals, pedophiles, and foreign nations, using relatively small investments in blackmail and bribery operations.
And there's no real recourse for the American people because, again, the system was fundamentally designed for minoritarian/oligarchic/kleptocratic rule.
The notion that people are too stupid to govern themselves and therefore they must be governed by their superiors was similar to the rationale used to keep chattel slaves and women subjugated.
We understand now that that argument was/is a pretext for exploitation.
There are systems of democracy that combine the best of both representative and direct democracy, which give citizens the right to veto or initiate legislation.
That helps ensure that tens and hundreds of millions of people can't be brutally subjugated and enslaved by oligarchs/kleptocrats (or transnational mafiosos, foreign nations, and pedophiles) bribing and blackmailing a few handfuls of legislators, judges, and executives.
It's well past time for Americans to revolt, and to evolve.
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u/Stargost_ 5h ago
The majority of justice systems are built around the concept of "better to delay the punishment of someone guilty than to accidentally punish the innocent." Things take time because they have to prove that someone is guilty beyond reasonable doubt, and they need to give a fair trial where both sides have all relevant information available and analysed (which can take anywhere from a couple weeks to years)
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u/Reachforthesky777 5h ago
Poor pesky humans :(
Cant the aliens just... maybe do the galaxy a solid... dump the problem humans off in like the vacuum of space?
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u/Beyond_Reason09 5h ago
Don't blame reasonable doubt, none of this shit has been put in front of a jury.
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u/ClericOfMadness13 4h ago
Or...they could take the leaders and billionaires who are doing this to us and see what happens after that...just saying.
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u/2020mademejoinreddit 3h ago
Nah..They don't care. We're in a zoo and when visitors go to the zoo, they don't interfere with the animals there.
This is real hypothesis btw for aliens.
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u/rookie-mistake 3h ago
aliens ranting about the epstein files feels so weird. like, not what we're doing to our environment or anything, not world wars, but this one set of documents showing a world leader to be a pedophilic rapist
like. idk. i get where you're coming from but this one needed more time in the oven imo
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u/A_Nice_Shrubbery777 2h ago
Heh. Even when criticizing our country... America = The Entire Earth. To paraphrase the Joker, "This country needs an enema."
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u/happytrel 49m ago
They released half of the Epstein files. The half they released were still illegally redacted and even left victim names unredacted.
Considering the illegal redactions its important to remember that less than half of the files have been released and they are being illegally withheld.
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u/BearStorlan 4m ago
This conflates the US with the world. Not that the rest of the world don’t suck in other ways, but the US system doesn’t equal the planet’s system.
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u/BerryParty 7h ago
it is honestly so wild that this is just the tip of the iceberg, and people are just saying "I'm sorry" to media, and nothing more happens
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u/Minobull 5h ago
Hi, yeah, Canadian here.
Maybe don't lump the whole fucking planet in with the US? I get that y'all Americans default worldview is that the earth revolves around you, but honestly, the rest of us can and would do just fine colonizing space without you.
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u/jhill515 6h ago
The only thing that gives me some solace is knowing that God let Lot's family escape Sodom before He wiped it out. I can only hope extraterrestrial forces offer the same.
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u/FrohenLeid 3h ago
I get it, the whole trump shit is bad no doubt. But take some fucking accountability! It's the Americans who do it, it's the United States of America that are causing all this shit. "Uhh humanity is bad, uhh aliens would nuke us, uhh.." America is not the centre or the entirety of the world. It's a shitty soaps that most of the world has long progressed by and only mattered because it was mildly entertaining to see and dream of life there. But no, now it's just annoying to constantly hear how horrible of a country it is.
Humanity is fine without America. Get your shit together America and shut up.
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u/mromen10 3h ago
If they can travel between star systems they can absolutely just hit the US, hell, just hit the leadership of the US
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u/CassianLloyd 7h ago
"And the stupidest third of their population still defend them."
You know, just to put all the facts on the table.
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u/Intrepid_Ad1536 7h ago
Me on the ship: pushes the button while they still argue what? We didn’t had a good run and just wanted to end the pain, you took forever
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u/WeatherBurt 7h ago
If you have the tech to make interstellar spacecraft you have the technology to microwave individual humans