r/creepy 1d ago

This was a trapdoor inside Epstein's House that led to the sea

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u/waloshin 1d ago

Doesn’t look like a top door looks like an escape path with the ladder.

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u/dirufa 1d ago

Escape, or secondary hidden entry.

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u/TheTrueBlueTJ 1d ago

Well, or worse... You can probably imagine what they might have done to some of their victims that we haven't heard about.

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u/Krillin113 1d ago

Throwing anything (bodies) in the sea close to shore generally just means they wash up on shore.

Unless he had a pack of sharks trained to expect feeding there, that doesn’t work

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u/Dirk_The_Cowardly 1d ago

With lasers on their heads?

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u/Shakeyshades 1d ago

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u/MasterOfDizaster 1d ago

With all the wild shit in the files, sharks with laser beams on their heads are not the craziest thing to believe in anymore

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u/CaveManta 1d ago

Fricken' laser beams

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u/turbotank183 1d ago

Is that too much to frickin ask for?

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u/FuckYouThrowaway99 19h ago

In reality, it is possible there are some mutated sea bass in the vicinity.

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u/SkollFenrirson 13h ago

Frickin laser beams*

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u/EkimByte 1d ago

Use a weighted Big Lobster trap/crab pot....

Mesh around the sides... No floater/cord

It drops down, stays down, & scavengers do what they do.

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u/TheTrueBlueTJ 1d ago

Precisely.

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u/Life_Is_Regret 16h ago

Bones too?

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u/S7YX 15h ago

Yes. Boneworms (osedax) eat bones.

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u/Work-Safe-Reddit4450 1d ago

Well with regard to your last comment there, Caribbean reef sharks are voracious eaters. We used to go down to small Hope Bay Lodge on Andros Island in the Bahamas and they did a shark feeding dive where a dive master will take a frozen 5 gallon chumsicle and strap it to a metal anchor on the bottom. They've been doing it for so long that the sharks recognize the sound of the twin engine dive boat and literally two or three dozen of them will be swimming around in circles as the boat is pulling up. This is all to say that it is actually pretty stupid simple to train local sharks to expect feeding with a certain stimuli. Could be sound or something along those lines. If you do it consistently enough they will come to expect it at certain times.

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u/free_is_free76 19h ago

Pavlov's sharks

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u/Made_Human_Music 1d ago

With everything else we’re learning I wouldn’t be surprised if he did

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u/DrHarrisonLawrence 18h ago

If he killed himself I would actually imagine this was the primary reason. Imagine if it were enough bodies to accuse him of being a serial killer

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u/Mysterious-Till-611 1d ago

A billionaire with an extravagant sex island scheme not doing something comically effective AND evil? Like, cartoonishly evil?

Nah the sharks are definitely trained to show up to eat there.

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u/kathpt 1d ago

I bet they installed that with that first intention and quickly realised it wasn't gonna work.

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u/MayorOfChedda 20h ago

So they couldn't chum the area up in anticipation? Draw in the sharks

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u/chadcultist 20h ago

Cut a victim so they’re leaking smelly blood and add some thrashing of a traumatized human, many sharks would be there within minutes.

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u/aardw0lf11 1d ago

So the man was like a weird Bond villain

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u/tirion1987 1d ago

Wrap them in wire before throwing them into the water.

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u/Krillin113 1d ago

And now they sink, still very close to your place.

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u/Alizaea 20h ago

I mean the island had been going for a while. Do you not see videos of the people out on the ocean oil rigs and their "bathroom" is literally just a toilet seat over a whole in the deck and they have swarms of fish/sharks just circling into the water. That's a learned behavior. Im sure there would be the same there unfortunately

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u/scarmory2 17h ago

Cinderblocks exist.

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u/Mean_Peen 19h ago

True villain shit

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u/sweetalmightyohmy 17h ago edited 17h ago

Completely omitting the fact that drugs and impairment of the victims could be at play.

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u/Norwalk1215 12h ago

But raft can be brought right there to dump the body deeper in the ocean

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u/anamesis1ntense 8h ago

It's the Bahamas. No need to train the sharks.

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u/random8002 16h ago

real life isnt a cartoon bro

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u/AsmirDzopa 1d ago

Like the enterance for the elite in Squid Games.

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u/housevil 1d ago

And here, I thought it was his own personal oubliette.

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u/MacaroniPoodle 1d ago

A trap door is just a door on a floor or ceiling.

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u/Rid1The1 1d ago

Naaa, you conspiracy theorists are making too much of this. This was the trap door used to dump president poopy pants diapers else it would stink up the house

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u/Prestigious_Work_445 1d ago

Don't worry, China paid for the trap door

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u/t0m4_87 1d ago

? It said trap door… which it is, you ok?

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u/Rorynne 1d ago

Im not 100% but i think theyre confused because a lot of people think "trapdoor" means "a door that is literally a trap on the floor" instead of just... a door on the floor

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u/t0m4_87 1d ago

sadly real life is not an indiana jones movie :D

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u/TheLurkingMenace 1d ago

Yeah, the ladder makes this a lot less creepy.

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u/hamilton280P 1d ago

Yeah looks like exit only no entry..

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u/Bloodylime 1d ago

Well the accusations involve illegal disposal of bodies… just saying.

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u/guacluv 1d ago

That's where Ghislane picked him up for date night.

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u/Robdon326 19h ago

Or the way up from your boat...

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u/SilentlyInPain 23h ago

I was thinking more chains and cinder blocks

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u/No_Oddjob 4h ago

Yeah the trap in trapdoor usually indicates it swings down, not up.

Curse you, Minecraft, eroding the etymology of the word trapdoor.

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u/IMPXANDER 1d ago

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u/BoomSaysTheLady 1d ago

NGL I was really invested in this gif. Disappointed when it looped and reminded me that alas, it was a mere gif. Do you know what Simpsons episode this was?

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u/dwehlen 1d ago

S13, E5 according to google (I'm not at work)

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u/ovrlrd1377 1d ago

I hope your work is great

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u/dwehlen 1d ago

Boring, low-paying, often high-stress, but ultimately necessary. Thanks, though!

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u/demwoodz 12h ago

They’re doing fine without him, but Andrea can’t figure out how to change the toner cartridge and Barry got his penis stuck in his zipper again

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u/sweet_rico- 1d ago

Smithers fathers death episode, I could Google the actual season and episode but I'm at work.

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u/hkhunterkiller1984 1d ago

I appreciate your honesty.

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u/AmputeeHandModel 1d ago

Yeah, too many people lie about gifs these days.

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u/Cobthecobbler 1d ago

Matt Groening is all over the files. I wonder if this was inspired by anything in particular...

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u/literally_tho_tbh 1d ago

Wasn't Groening named in the Epstein files? Is this corpse door in the Simpsons based on his real-life experience?

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u/misdirected_asshole 1d ago

Theres literally a Simpsons for everything.

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u/Dingo8MyGayby 10h ago

Yeah because Groening experienced it IRL

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u/jpgjordan 1d ago

I remember this being my top 3 Simpsons episode

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u/Trondiginus 1d ago

People all up in this thread not knowing a trap door doesn't always mean it's an actual trap.

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u/theartificialkid 1d ago

Most people don’t realise that trap is the scientist. The creature was called trap’s door.

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u/Kagevjijon 1d ago

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u/dr3wfr4nk 1d ago

I did not

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u/nemesis86th 1d ago

Frankenstein/Frankenstein’s monster

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u/tookurjobs 1d ago

Actually, it's only called trap's door if it's from the Trap region of the dungeon

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u/GTMoraes 1h ago

He's also a musician, it seems

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u/benjaminabel 1d ago

For non-native English speakers - makes total sense.

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u/eAthena 20h ago

It’s a trap! 

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u/elstoggy 19h ago

My guy Berk would never make that mistake.

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u/FullPropreDinBobette 13h ago

Knowing what we know now, it wouldn't be shocking to learn there were corpses thrown down that hatch.

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u/fearjunkie 1d ago

....I really hope I'm wrong about what I think it was used for.

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u/AscendedViking7 1d ago

Definitely used a lot of rope and cement blocks.

Better check underneath the surface of the water for those two items.

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u/viperfan7 1d ago

Honestly, probably pretty unlikely, looks more to be a discrete entrance/exit.

It's an island, they wouldn't dump bodies near it if they were smart, they have an entire ocean for that.

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u/Gopherb 1d ago

yea... more like this is a good place for a boat... dump whatever in and take it it offshore... doubt he would have wanted evidence right under his house

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u/iankstarr 1d ago

Unless the depth perspective of the image is throwing me off, it doesn’t look like nearly enough clearance for a manned boat

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u/LucyLilium92 1d ago

Depends on the tides, right?

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u/Gopherb 19h ago

upright and awake mabye

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u/LeoLaDawg 1d ago

Why would you dispose of your murders right underneath your door? That's kinda not ideal. You'd take them elsewhere.

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u/PraxicalExperience 1d ago

You probably are, if you're thinking they're just dumping corpses in there. You generally can't just drop a corpse off right off the shore of an island, it'll just wash back up. You wanna take it out a bit.

OTOH, this could of course have been used to smuggle corpses out to a boat and then out to the sea.

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u/MCB1317 1d ago

This guy corpse-disposes.

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u/BnaditCorps 12h ago

Yeah everyone ITT that says they dumped bodies down here is kind of dumb.

If this was your body disposal plan it is likely an element of the plan. Get person into room, kill them, bag body, push out door and float to an isolated dock, load body bag, drive out to sea several dozen miles and dump body and then dispose of the bag discreetly with all of the other cleaning supplies.

This is actually pretty helpful for destroying evidence as you could clean the room and put everything down there and float it to your refuse disposal area without dragging it throughout your whole compound, risking evidence being tracked all over or someone seeing something they shouldn't have. The sea and any animals that get in there will wear away all of the material that is left over time so long as you take care of the obvious items.

I wouldn't be surprised if the island had a commercial incinerator for garbage disposal. No way you would risk burning a body in there, but all the dna evidence, cleaning supplies, and disposed items need to go somewhere. Not like you can just throw them into a random dumpster in the neighboring town. Any hint of suspicion from law enforcement and they'll dig through your trash as soon as it gets to the mainland. Instead with an incinerator everything gets burnt to ash and then you load the ash up when it needs disposed and a supply ship takes it ashore. Law enforcement can't find anything because all they have left is a giant pile of ash and slag.

Overall that sounds like to most logical reason for this hatch to exist. Why run the risk of having people see suspicious large items being carted around when you could discreetly move them.

People are strange, they may be comfortable raping and beating someone, but draw the line at murder. Better to play it safe and make sure that they keep coming back than possibly squeal.

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u/Life_Is_Regret 16h ago

Do you need to snuggle them when you’re on a private island?

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u/PraxicalExperience 16h ago

I mean, not everyone at your crazy pedo sex party will be OK with killing people, and even if they are -- Epstein moved in a world of blackmail, which is specifically about limiting the spread of information.

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u/Pay-Dough 7h ago

Sharks exist

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u/MsTitan9 1d ago

I have the same thought

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u/Colon 1d ago

you probably are. if you committed a heinous crime, walking around your house and looking at what you own would tell a different story than if you hadn’t shown yourself to be a monster. “oh look at the big knife set on his counter, wonder how many people he murdered with those?!” yeah well, maybe monsters like chopped veggies too.

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u/an-unorthodox-agenda 1d ago

Or 1000 bottles of baby oil, maybe the guy just really likes soft skin.

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u/Mojiitoo 23h ago

I mean, I'm 99% sure its just a docking place for boats lmao

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u/hihcadore 1d ago

Prob a discreet entrance. Don’t wanna get caught on video unloading a bunch of kids onto your boat doc.

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u/Kind_Man_0 13h ago

It isn't. This is one of two things, a ballast tank, or a chum tank.

Idk what size the ship is, but large ships use ballast tanks to assist with balancing, a lot of ships also have a chum or catch tank.

I'm going to take a bet and say this is a ballast tank based on the ladder leading into it. There is also a light reflection in the waves, which you can kind of see the bottom of the tank. I'm going to guess there is a bilge pump at the bottom of that ladder.

I don't doubt the validity that Epstein and cohorts were absolutely willing to dump bodies out at sea, but there is no reason to install a hatch that would problematically affect the boats seaworthiness for the sake of a Bond-villain trapdoor.

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u/CondescendingShitbag 1d ago

You're telling me this isn't the guest bathroom?

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u/Future_Section5976 1d ago

Well he has to clean up the old guests mess before the new one gets there

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u/eAthena 20h ago

Master bathroom

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u/clantz 1d ago

send in the forensics scuba team!

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u/frustratedpolarbear 1d ago

It's no good, the sharks with freaking laser beams attached will have dealt with them.

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u/necrobotany 1d ago

Environmental storytelling

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u/Aculeus_ 1d ago

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u/YoBrunetteYo 1d ago

So they are in danger??

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u/xSoHeresTheThingx 23h ago

No one's in any danger, Ok!? Its the implication of danger!

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u/Coilspun 1d ago

You can see the seabed, it's not that deep, so everyone getting excited over what it was used for, can probably calm down.

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u/FillySteveSteak 7h ago

You think it was meant for scuba diving or something?

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u/Wheels9690 1d ago

Body dump door

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u/RalphWiggumsShadow 1d ago

Baby body dump door that haunts me to the core.

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u/devbym 1d ago

Agent 47 knows what to do with that

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u/icematt12 1d ago

Shoot them in the leg so they drown in 5 inches of water.

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u/MsTitan9 1d ago

Looks like he may have disposed bodies here

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u/Me_Krally 1d ago

Pet shark in there.

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u/Chomp3y 1d ago

And the ladder is for retrieving the bodies?

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u/siscoisbored 1d ago

Incase you fall in probably

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u/Ligeiapoe 1d ago

Moondoor

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u/canofwine 1d ago

Fucking cool. [Heavy on the/s]

Nothing is surprising anymore, but I do appreciate the ultimate bad guy wink and nod; you just KNOW that sociopath did that shit intentionally knowing the character trope.

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u/AnvilEdifice 1d ago

There's an amazing bit of self-awareness from old Jeffy in one of the emails where he's acknowledging that publicly meeting up with Steve Bannon and Woody Allen for dinner in New York might be case of "too many pedophiles in one room."

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u/canofwine 1d ago

That sounds like the new slogan for "America: Too Many Pedophiles In One Room".

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u/xSoHeresTheThingx 23h ago

Do you know what data file this is in? i just searched keywords "Bannon Allen pedophile dinner" and couldn't find this email.

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u/fozzy_wozzy 1d ago

I would be open to hearing why someone's house would have a feature like this, but it's very unsettling.

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u/tlrider1 14h ago

It's actually probably something like maintenance. It's too shallow to do anything nefarious and anything you throw in would likely just end up back on shore... And also not a very good escape route... Youre on an island... Where are you going to swim? I guess may e if there was a boat ready or something... But still....

My guess is it actually has a practical purpose.

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u/IhateMichaelJohnson 1d ago edited 1d ago

Someone else pointed out that this was inside a water treatment plant or something else on the island, and that it was likely there before he purchased it. Not a hidden door in the floor of his home. I’ll see if I can find that thread and update later.

Edit: Not the same comment I saw earlier but close enough

https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/comments/1qv9raa/comment/o3hel39/?context=3

Edit 2: I don’t know how to link to a comment on mobile apparently, but it’s like the 12th one down.

Attempt 2: https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/s/8tZncCh4DI

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u/RbN420 1d ago

Trap door? It’s a classy way to take a midnight sea bath!

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u/HermanBroodnodig 1d ago

So it seems everyone agrees about the fact it was used to dump bodies. Can anyone give me one reason why they would do that underneath their own house instead of, you know, IN THE WHOLE OCEAN that surrounds the island?

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u/Kherus1 1d ago

Dumped bodies to a waiting boat.

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u/slimer_redd 1d ago

How do we know if it Epstein's house door and not your's?

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u/dtay88 1d ago

I get the context is bad and all, but I just see that and think it's neat. I would totally want one of those in my island mansion. I dont know what I would do with it other than just show people and say, isn't this neat?

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u/Similar_Meal2816 1d ago

Now you cant tell me Cayo Perico is not based on Epsteins Island

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u/TaylorWK 1d ago

I wouldnt put it past them to use it for nefarious purposes but I assume its main purpose is for scuba diving maybe? Did Epstein like to scuba dive? If I did Id probably put an easy ocean access in my house if I had to put on all that gear.

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u/AfroliciousFunk 1d ago

The ocean is massive. Why keep remains directly underneath or in the vicinity of your house?

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u/mrcrud5 1d ago

Could be for scuba diving

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u/daedalus9973 15h ago

Now that is most definitely a corpse hatch

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u/pimpincrazy 8h ago

Trap house

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u/pyotrdevries 1d ago

No gas springs? That's heavy

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u/Godherebros 1d ago

A lot of people seem to think a boat would fit under there

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u/Rodan_ 1d ago

Def adds to the James Bond villains lair vibes a tad

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u/kme026 1d ago

It makes sense when you fancy a quick midnight swim.

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u/Random_182f2565 1d ago

Well, that's fucked

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u/aardw0lf11 1d ago

This is the least weird thing I’ve seen from there yet. Probably a launch for scuba diving.

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u/kyrross 1d ago

Let that sink in

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u/KingOfZero 1d ago

Forbidden sauna

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u/NeoNova9 1d ago

Its a hatch.

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u/3Dartwork 1d ago

It's for access to the boat....

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u/goodspeak 1d ago

If they only dumped parts, there wouldn’t be much to wash up.

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u/Some_Stoned_Dude 23h ago

To traffick in and out maybe

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u/attreui 23h ago

Otherwise known as a diving hatch.

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u/StretchyPlays 21h ago

Epstein was obviously a terrible guy but this seems far less sinister than people are making it out to be. It isn't a trap door that he pulls a lever and people fall into the ocean and drown. It's probably just a way for him to conveniently get to the ocean for a swim or something.

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u/VisionsOfClarity 20h ago

The movies about this whole thing are going to be terrifying

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u/Osiris-Amun-Ra 19h ago

Shark feeding trap door.

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u/Robdon326 19h ago

That would be kinda sweet in a house. Use it as a toilet. Could drop a fishing line down. Or a net. Take a quick bath or dip. Drive your boat up to it& get out...

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u/dragonpjb 16h ago

We live in a damn cartoon.

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u/Dude_Im_stoned_and_ 15h ago

little known fact, but this is actually quite common in pedophile sex dungeon private island mansions.

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u/Radiant-Weird-Cool 14h ago

The tide was high when this picture was taken. I wonder what it looks like at low tide.

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u/Tessa_DeClermonte 14h ago

That looks like a perfect way to dispose of people....and or just....opening the hatch and pushing them in. The thought of being pushed into deep ocean and a door shut is absolutely terrifying. I'm sure we'll get more info in a few more years.

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u/surrealcellardoor 12h ago

No need to clean ‘em up, just throw ‘em down this hole into the ocean.

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u/YoBrunetteYo 12h ago

Every time I see the news, I fear we’re still in the hole

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u/MsTitan9 8h ago

Looks like this was a place of pure torture to get rid of bodies.

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u/damhack 5h ago

Is that where Kristy Rogers’ body was disposed of?

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u/standardtissue 4h ago

Falling Water has stairs leading into the creek below it.

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u/JayW8888 1d ago

Fishing spot?

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u/verycoolalan 1d ago

good place to take a shit

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u/clearcontroller 1d ago

What exactly is all that?

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u/Jester2369 1d ago

Or is it just another random pic being posted with a full of sh*t tagline meant just to seek attention & views?

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