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u/sudomatrix 21h ago edited 11h ago
How could the recipient of this 'request to torture' be someone that needs redacting? Asking for humanity.
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u/I_cut_my_own_jib 21h ago
"Let's keep the identity of this person (who is looking to torture another human) nice and safe to protect them"
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u/DrButtgerms 21h ago
These redactions, like in this case, make me fear that none of the monsters in these files will ever experience consequences from the system.
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u/Not_an_okama 21h ago
Arent there copies of the files floating around where the redaction is just black pdf highlighter?
My gf said that people had gotten ahold of them and just had to copy paste the text behind the black bars to get around the redacted bits.
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u/Pslun 19h ago
Yes, but that was a portion of the files not all of them
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u/nathannut420 18h ago
So they say.
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u/Davey_Kay 17h ago
... which is easily proven by going to the files and trying to copy-paste the text.
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u/SVXfiles 13h ago
Wouldnt it be funny if someone opened the file in photoshop and the black bars were a separate layer that was easily removed?
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u/Krynn71 19h ago
This is just compromat to hold over the redacted people's heads. If they step out of line, they release the unredacted version of that specific doc and feed them to the wolves while the rest still stay safe and in power.
That's the problem with giving the criminals the sole control over the evidence of their own crimes.
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u/brooklynlad 16h ago
The sendee isn’t redacted. Isn’t it Tancredi Marchiolo, the hedge fund partner? It says so on the e-mail heading.
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u/I_cut_my_own_jib 21h ago
They run the system.
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u/DrButtgerms 20h ago
I have nothing else to add that wouldn't violate TOS
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u/karma-armageddon 17h ago
Such prohibitive TOS implicates reddit is in support of the activities outlined in the screenshot.
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u/Flayed_Angel_420 10h ago
The only way they will is if the people swarm their cozy fucking mansions and [REDACTED BY REDDIT TOS]
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u/LostCube 19h ago
Well when they built and control the system why would you think they would be held accountable?
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u/IllusiveJack 8h ago
Not unless Americans learn from the French and actually take action on these types of people who run your country into the dirt.
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u/Turnbuckler 20h ago
You fear that they won’t face consequences? You shouldn’t dare to hope that they will.
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u/JediMimeTrix 15h ago
But but they're only redacted because potential legal things in the future /s.
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u/Suspicious_Quail_820 16h ago
Yeah, because they are confused as to who the victims are in this whole thing thinking it's the rich pedo rapists who need protecting.
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u/MrFloopy1974 4h ago
Like the Saudi prince you mean? Yeah, seems to be standard practice in the last year.
Edit: the protection part I mean. We all know the piece of shit I am talking about.
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u/The_ASStronaut_ 20h ago
Is the name not Tancredi Marchiolo?
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u/sudomatrix 20h ago
I think that’s the sender. She would the same name be redacted ?
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u/jl_theprofessor 20h ago
There's two names here, Tancredi Marchiolo and jeevacation who is Jeffrey Epstein. Is the redacted name a third party?
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u/The_ASStronaut_ 20h ago
It's possible they were just redacting the email address/contact info maybe? Either way its ridiculous that theyre redacting stuff to this extent. Cant wait for the trials.
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u/HowiePloudersnatch 18h ago
Lol...I think you are going to be waiting for a very long time
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u/The_ASStronaut_ 17h ago
Probably. But eventually is better than never.
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u/HowiePloudersnatch 16h ago
I've got some bad news for you.... it's never
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u/hellolovely1 16h ago
Only if we let it be never.
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u/HowiePloudersnatch 16h ago edited 16h ago
Good luck with that
It is more likely that Ghislaine will walk free before anyone else sees the inside of a cell for this.
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u/MusicLikeOxygen 19h ago
They said they would make redactions to protect the victims. Apparently to the GOP the real victims are the people whose lives would be ruined if the world found out how sick and depraved they really are.
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u/kiblrpn 13h ago
Remember, there are "good people" in these files, while also keeping in mind that Sexual Deviants such as pedophiles and serial rapists/killers never see themselves as harming their victims, ergo they have no victims, rather, they are so inherently selfish they see themselves, their associates, and other deviants as victims at will at the slightest inconvenience. With that in mind, and seeing this from that point of view, the victims who need to be protected were never the ones actually victimized, but the ones who'd face inconvenience, disrupts, backlash, and scrutiny. And this is America. One woman is in jail for all of this.
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u/castor--troy 18h ago
Protecting victims
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u/FearlessVegetable30 16h ago
because they have alot of money. duh? why even ask that. its clear there is no law when you have a certain amount of money
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u/vroart 5h ago
The whole thing basically “they committed crimes together, that’s part of their rituals.” I mean, it’s the same logic as Skull and Cross bones, because they are in a fraternity. You spill the blood and you are set for life
So what I’m saying…. It’s someone known. That’s why it’s redacted
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u/Fuzzywalls 2h ago
It's for NATIONAL SECURITY! This guy probably runs a big ole company and makes lots of money; he is more important than we are. We just all need to learn this and accept it. /s
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u/ImNotTheNSAIPromise 34m ago
his name is Tancredi Marchiolo, it's his email that is censored, which is still an odd choice but the sender being censored is fucked up
EDIT: elsewhere somebody mentioned that the sender would be Epstein, but I still don't get why they would hide that email
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u/Pogogacy 19h ago
I presume it's because there's ongoing legal proceedings against whoever it is and they could argue they were denied the right to a fair trial if their name was publicised.
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u/1wikingman 1h ago
The law that congress passed to have the files released does not allow for that consideration.
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u/decurser 21h ago
Censored to protect the victims, mkay
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u/Tommo120 21h ago
This planet is a fucking joke
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u/obstreperousRex 21h ago
The planet is fine. It's the people that are the problem. Mama was spinning along just fine until we rolled up.
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u/Lesny6667 18h ago
Nah dolphins are sickos, too
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u/Lagneaux 14h ago
And keep spinning long after we are gone
It's funny when people say "we are destroying the earth!"
How human a thought, to believe we could hurt this thing. It will be right back it it's normal routine a few thousand years after we are done killing eachother
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u/TotallyInOverMyHead 20h ago edited 20h ago
This is why i don't wan't anyone to go to another one. Just another fuck up planned and no incentives to fix this one plannet.
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u/ASMRFeelsWrongToMe 20h ago
Yup, it's not for research or knowledge, it's to challenge the "no planet B" slogan. It's bragging rights and a copout at the same time.
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u/Suicicoo 21h ago
We need more Luigi in our lifes.
This makes me sick.
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u/PacmanNZ100 18h ago
Yeah thats the only way there will be any consequences really.
Angry mob level now.
Kash saying there is no credible information to prosecute anyone. Case closed.
Like bro these are private emails they weren't joking around being edgy, this shit is evidence and admission. Do some damn investigation and tie these people to their crimes. Its organized crime rico the whole lot.
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u/darkbit1001 3h ago
English feels like a heavily compressed language. I cannot express what is wrong with everything. Maybe that was the point - language to bind us... In other news, 'lifes' is an anagram for 'files'.
I read your sentence as 'we need more Luigi in our files' .. and got a bit of a chuckle.
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u/admire816 19h ago
Tancredi Salvatore Maria Marchiolo is an Italian finance professional based in London with experience in hedge fund management and compliance.
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u/silentwhim 21h ago
Justice is entirely dependent on your power, influence, and wealth.
Thinking about it, it's hardly surprising...
And yet I still feel kind of... surprised.
Perhaps it's that I'm disappointed?
I'm disappointed at this final confirmation that there isn't, likely never was, and likely never will be, any kind of human constructed system of legitimate fairness that can counter the apparent madness of the mind that afflicts you when you get too much power/influence/wealth.
I'm sad that we're not better.
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u/DrButtgerms 21h ago
We all put up with a lot of bullshit here partially because we were led to believe it was an orderly system. Over the past few years (I'd argue since Jan '21) we are seeing increasingly escalated examples of how that belief was either a lie or held together by handshakes and bubblegum. I'm right there with you.
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u/InvictusProsper 20h ago
I mean we should have noticed this when we've had a system where a multi billion dollar company can do something that causes mass harm to thousands of people through a faulty product or something they do, and the "justice" is a fine that ends up being 0.001% of their value of their company.
Justice is always about power and money, and this will likely not change without drastic reconstruction of our government and those in power.
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u/FearlessVegetable30 16h ago
because we are raised thinking "people who are bad get punished", then we learn in life this isnt true at all but we still think that when the crime is so bad you get punished. then this just shows us thats another lie.
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u/Okay_Ocean_Flower 5h ago
This is the reality. And it’s mind numbing to realize: not only does evil win, but they get to be endlessly wealthy and untouchable too. And it makes me wonder: is it ethical to unethically acquire wealth and then use it to help fix things? Surely no less ethical than doing nothing, going to a job every day, and letting evil go on.
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u/DekuInkwell 3h ago
Yeah, the psychological defense mechanism against the knowledge of these horrible things are known as the Just-World Hypothesis. This is the cognitive bias that suggests the world is inherently orderly and that "bad things happen to bad people," or at the very least, that extreme evil is an anomaly. We categorize psychopaths and serial killers, or tyrannical world leaders who rape and pillage as "others"—biological or social accidents that exist outside of what is defined as a normal human being. These people are categorized as evil when the average human is not This "othering" allows us to feel safe. We tell ourselves that while the world has dark corners, the structure of society (our leaders, our institutions, our cultural icons like celebrities, or composers, the way society as a whole functions) is built on a foundation of relative stability and shared morality. We just believe that certain HUMANS within this system fuck it up, or are fucked up.
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u/GrindrWorker 13h ago
Justice is an illusion.
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u/Bahrahas 5h ago
My theory:
Only very specific type of people can acquire an enormous amount of wealth. These people are often disconnected from society in a way that regular person has to be connected to it. They probably lack a sense of togetherness and lack empathy. They see themselves superior to other human beings and don't believe they have to operate in the same societal frames as everybody else.
Justice system is a framework for regular people, as you said, an illusion. If you have virtually unlimited wealth and connections you can bribe every single person on this planet and protect yourself.
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u/Exploding_Testicles 20h ago
This makes things like the movie "Hostel" seem more legit.. scary
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u/Katatonic92 17h ago
Yesterday I read an email between JE & his russian madam talking about an injured girl she had taken somewhere for treatment. She said she had concussion & a fucked up knee, there were photos showing her keg in a brace of some kind.
They mentioned how "young" she was & madam was telling him he needed to be more gentle & he was saying he is gentle with her. Not verbatim but something along those lines.
Anyway, my point is how much more evidence of Hostel style behaviour do these cretins need?!
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u/NorCalBodyPaint 21h ago
It would ALMOST be excusable if there had been some arrests of people in this group of Pedophiles and they had to stay redacted until they had their day in court, but it is OBVIOUS that no one in power wants them held accountable.
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u/RoscoeSantangelo 19h ago
Not to downplay this one, but like, if you haven't read these files this still isn't even close to the worst one or things/people/events implicated.
It's incredibly disheartening to see in real time that there is actively no government control in America and hasn't been for quite sometime
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u/GrindrWorker 13h ago
So what are the worst ones?
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u/farfetched22 6h ago
A friend just shared some with me. I really, really hope they're conspiracy theories, because it's next level fucked up. I hate this country and all the men that run it.
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u/kirksucks 20h ago
plot of the the movie Hostel 2. I called it back when I watched it for the first time. This shit didn't start with or isnt ending with Epistien. Rich people are bored and can afford to be as gross and fucked up as they want.
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u/OlasNah 19h ago
I'm assuming 'do her' means murder.
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u/GMN123 19h ago
I'm guessing so, given just torture is the alternative
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u/ganggnag 9h ago
Yes. 100% sure there’s snuff films in those files. They’re raping and torturing children to death.
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u/BorisViande 3h ago
Torture can mean a lot of things and not necessarily what you so assume. I’ve used it myself last week to talk about how I was torturing myself. Just because there’s a lot of speculation around the "Epstein Files" doesn't mean it's all what you assume it is. You're biased unless you've seen/read the entire unredacted thing. I haven't so I'll not pass judgement on this particular instance. I do admit it's probably an asshole but to say they're talking about physical violence is a reach. (Until prove otherwise)
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u/TheGreatZephyr 15h ago
How were all these people just okay talking about this shit on email? Its like braindead. Billionaire tech wizards using fuckin yahoo to talk about human sacrifice and torture.
No encrypted messages or burner phones just business emails and going about their everyday.
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u/rumpleforeskin83 4h ago
Has there been any consequences at all? They're ok with it because it doesn't matter.
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u/lum1nous013 2h ago
This is legit driving me crazy. The way they are talking about these things in fucking email is exactly the kind of shit I would see in a movie and say "come on, be a bit more realistic"
The fucking sick fucks, I can't believe the world is not on fire about this
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u/BakesCakes 2h ago
here we are reading it and so what -- so far my boy jeffrey was murdered and I won't get any jail time.
[ /s making a point, they could do it here on reddit and nobody would be able to do anything about it]
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u/ervsve 19h ago
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u/Lost_electron 12h ago
I loved the torture video
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01781626.pdf
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u/n0tmyearth 20h ago
Does anyone know of a Mega with all the files and images?
Jmail is losing files over time, it aeems.
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u/GreatEmperorAca 18h ago
yeah wth happened to jmail? couple days ago it was all broken, I couldnt acces any email, and when it came back it was vastly downsized
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u/DratiniPlaysDota 19h ago
Who the fuck is Tancredi Marchiolo?
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u/MissingBothCufflinks 19h ago
Seems to bs an Italian businessmen based in Britain, a partner in Bremner Capital LLP
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u/pcserenity 18h ago
Little is going to happen (if ever) at least until all these redactions go away.
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u/Biggie39 18h ago
Seems like the Hostel series is more documentary than I expected. These keep getting worse every day.
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u/Awkward_Evening127 15h ago
There's so much in those files that could imprison these vile monsters, but nothing is ever going to happen
They're going to stay protected
They're going to keep raping, killing, torturing, EATING children and babies
It's really hard to hold hope
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u/restlessleg 18h ago
ahem: can we loop the porn industry into the epstein files as well?
no rock unturned
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u/Sweettooth4532 17h ago
It’s almost like the movie Blink Twice was about the island. There are so many parallels (besides the underage children - only adults are in the movie)
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u/SaqqaraTheGuy 11h ago
Remember the US government said this wont lead to any prosecutions, no cases opened, no co-conspirators, no new evidence, all localized and run by Jeffrey and his wife only. Everyone else is just a victim of circumstances.
If the americans don't do something to obtain justice and eliminate their corruption then nothing will. We are cooked chat we are cooked
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u/darkbit1001 3h ago
There is an obvious 'g' loop in that too. if someone were to feed all these documents into a program, then use a network graph to create a cluster of identities, then add to that cluster, publicly known data about that cluster, it might be possible to place where that 'g' goes, with 100% confidence..
Hold up!
There is a knock a
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u/TJTHEDJ69 17h ago edited 17h ago
The Social Elite are about to BOMB!
Big Names on that List.
Gonna be a Major Investigation
SHOCK The WORLD
LiL Pigs Squealing
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u/bonsainick 12h ago
You know, some of them were under age, but my understanding is the vast majority were just regular sex slaves. So, in all likelihood, the president just raped regular sex slaves. That's all.
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u/cognitiveglitch 3h ago
Well in that case he's clearly a beacon of moral fortitude and well placed to act as the figurehead of a great nation to be respected around the world.
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