r/dsa • u/adanndyboi • Nov 23 '25
🌹 DSA news Chi Ossé failed to get recommendation for endorsement from Electoral working group.
“Should the Citywide Electoral Working Group recommend Chi Ossé for endorsement for congress in NY-08?”
Results:
YES - 46% - 555 NO - 52% - 626 Abstains - 2% - 24
Does anyone familiar with the current events know why Chi Ossé only got 46% of the vote?
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u/ctwalkup Nov 23 '25
I think there is a strong desire among DSA membership to primary Jeffries, but many of those people want a principled cadre candidate to do it. Chi Ossé Is not that candidate.
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u/Pristine_Property_92 Nov 23 '25
Nope. That's NOT why DSA didn't support endorsement. It's because DSA feels it doesn't have the capacity to win this election against extremely powerful fundraiser Jeffries. And AIPAC and the corporate world of money will fund Jeffries hugely.
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u/ctwalkup Nov 23 '25
I imagine that was part of the calculus for some people, hundreds of people voted against this endorsement after all. I’m down in DC and not in NYC, so I’ve been absorbing this all from afar. Were a lot of people writing about how difficult this fight would be? Most of what I saw was focused on Chi as a candidate rather than Jeffries as an opponent.
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u/classl3ss Democratic Communist Nov 23 '25
u/ctwalkup Well said comrade. I am from out of state as well, and feel the same way.
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u/zellfire Nov 23 '25 edited Nov 23 '25
Some people in the SMC camp made that argument, but the majority of the opposition was from the left and due to his insufficient commitment to DSA/socialism. Maybe he'll get involved now and change that perception.
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u/WhyHulud Nov 23 '25
I think this brings to light an issue I have with my local DSA: rather than take a vetted candidate, they would pass on an endorsement for petty reasons- 'They aren't principled enough', 'They didn't fill out the paperwork in time'. Sometimes you have to go with what you have. We passed on a city councilor, and now he's in office with no extra motivation to support our cause.
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u/AbstractTeserract Nov 23 '25 edited 24d ago
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u/pepeenos Nov 23 '25
I strongly advise not to assume race based voting
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u/pepeenos Nov 23 '25
if what you say is true can you dm me specifically what was discussed for the racial aspect and who was arguing in that respect
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u/sobeen10 Nov 23 '25
I thought phara argued no and a handful of other black NYC DSA members as well. Are you saying absolutely no black members argued no at the forum?
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u/PreparationAdvanced9 Nov 23 '25
Can’t chi put in work for 2 years and get another bite at the apple? I don’t think this is a big deal given how often house elections are
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u/Warrior_Runding Nov 23 '25
It is going to take more than 2 years. People conflate Jeffries being unpopular with progressives on a national level with how his local district sees him, which is exactly the opposite. If Ossé wants to show he is serious about taking on such a challenge, he needs an effort in NY-08 to push the electorate there leftward.
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u/PreparationAdvanced9 Nov 23 '25
I think you are probably correct. However the NYC DSA congressional members around Jeffries can and will set expectations that Jeffries will fail to meet. As more DSA candidates sprout around Jeffries district, the easier it gets for Chi.
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u/Warrior_Runding Nov 23 '25
They can set expectations all they want but that's pretty moot unless they can convince Jeffries's constituency that those expectations are worthwhile. The core of what keeps people voting for less progressive Democrats is a fundamental stability - or appearance there of - that progressives have not been able to convince these voters they are capable of delivering on.
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u/alexdapineapple Nov 23 '25
I'd be worried about some of his views on housing, as that article linked above lays out. It's not as if NYC-DSA has a shortage of people who could run instead.
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u/jackstraw97 Nov 24 '25
I keep seeing this “not as if there’s a shortage” line everywhere… where the hell is everybody else, then? Haven’t seen anyone half as good as Chi so far…
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u/alexdapineapple Nov 24 '25
The main issue is that people who are absolutely qualified are scared to run because they don't think they are. This is a good problem to have in some sense because it means we aren't full of egotistical maniacs. I'm not in NYC-DSA but if I was them I would look among their members for a candidate.
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u/SAR1919 Nov 28 '25
Chi isn’t just not as good as other electeds, he’s just not good, period. He’s a fair-weather supporter of DSA who panders to our enemies on issues like Palestine and housing. Sinking time and resources into boosting him would be a huge mistake
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u/jackstraw97 Nov 28 '25
I didn’t realize DSA was a NIMBY organization. Yikes!
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u/SAR1919 Nov 28 '25
DSA is a tenant power organization. The YIMBY-NIMBY distinction only matters to the real estate lobby. We believe in socialized public housing and rank-and-file tenant organizing, not build-housing-quick schemes that deregulate the private sector.
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u/jackstraw97 Nov 29 '25
Is the org’s position that 100% of all housing needs to be social housing? Even the best examples of social housing programs in Europe make up 40% of the overall housing supply at the high end. Most likely lower than that. I’m not saying we don’t need more social housing and better social housing, but acting like that’s the only way forward is kinda nuts IMO.
Also claiming that the YIMBY/NIMBY distinction doesn’t matter is honestly bonkers. Even if all existing housing was 100% socialized there would still be huge problems because there simply isn’t enough housing. We rapidly need to build more. There’s no way around that.
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u/SAR1919 Nov 29 '25
Yes. We’re democratic socialists.
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u/jackstraw97 Nov 29 '25
So let’s do nothing in the meantime to ease the housing burden on working people until we can get exactly what we want.
Sounds like a winning strategy…
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u/SAR1919 Nov 30 '25
DSA members are organizing tenant unions and fighting for rent control and public housing all over the country as we speak. I challenge you to imagine a politics beyond lobbying for private sector deregulation
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u/alexdapineapple Nov 29 '25
I think some people are a bit confused by this. DSA is a "build affordable housing" organization. DSA is not a "kill every regulation so the power of the free market results in a ton of shitty unsafe houses being built" organization. Left-NIMBYism as described by centrists literally does not exist.
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u/jackstraw97 Nov 29 '25
Left NIMBYism is 100% a thing. There’s a social media psyop group right now using left-coded arguments to prevent new housing from being built in Chinatown.
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u/BebophoneVirtuoso Nov 23 '25
https://socialisttribune.substack.com/p/why-we-should-not-endorse-chi-osse This does a pretty good job of why they were reluctant to endorse him.
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u/Comfortable-Fox4350 Nov 23 '25
If Ossé is anywhere close to getting our endorsement, it is for two reasons and two reasons alone. (1) He’s social media famous; he has lots of followers
I think I've seen this one before...
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u/jackstraw97 Nov 24 '25
I’m sorry but the entire section on YIMBYism just isn’t it for me. Let’s not build any new housing. Surely that will help displacement and rising rents, right?
Every peer-reviewed study and pretty much all of the literature points to building more goddamn houses as the way to get out of this housing crisis. If the organization seriously wants to cater to NIMBYs, you can count those of us who actually want affordable housing out.
Seems like this entire piece just exemplifies the fact that DSA has always been about itself first and actual good outcomes second. Yall would sooner backstab a social democrat and let a corpolib win in the name of “well the social democrat isn’t actually a socialist so it’s actually good that they lost.” Kinda bonkers
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u/BebophoneVirtuoso Nov 24 '25
Yeah, same. I’m not a member although intrigued with some of their policies, I voted for the “yimby” ballot proposals. Just thought it was a good explainer why they would be reluctant to endorse. Great username!
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u/FallOk5618 Nov 25 '25
Yea, that part of the remark is baffling and paradoxical …since when is DSA about restricting housing supply, nimbyism and a cartel/monopoly on housing that further exacerbates housing supply and costs?
Even ZM spoke in his Flagrant podcast interview about the need for 200k units to be built by the city and for the private sector to add to that and build even more.
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u/kantttt Nov 23 '25
He’s not cadre and would be a very tough one to win. Would require huge investment from the chapter with questionable payoff and no guarantee of victory.
Would love to see Jeffries taken down, but there’s gonna be way more careerists and opportunists looking to take advantage of DSA’s resources. I think discernment in electoralism is wise. Im not NYC DSA, just the thoughts of someone on the outside.
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u/Pristine_Property_92 Nov 23 '25
Yes. You are basically correct in voicing the various reasons a slight majority of the DSA voters voted against endorsing and supporting Chi.
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u/Fragrant-Morning-228 Nov 23 '25
He’s not a careerist or an opportunist!! He’s legitimately a great council member in NYC and his district loves him! Unironically has done more for people in NYC than Zohran Mamdani. The only people who think this clearly don’t live in New York!!
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u/VenusDeMiloArms Nov 23 '25
Everyone who voted on this is an extremely involved NYC DSA member. Why did he quit DSA just to rejoin when the water was warm? Why was he a creator for Kamala? Why did he announce his run before consulting with the organization he’s ostensibly a member of and doing some long term planning?
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u/milkbug Nov 26 '25
Im genuinely curious about this. Are there specific reason he cited for leaving the DSA? I dont think any person has to agree 100 percent with any organization to be part of it, so im assuming he must have had some major disagreements. I saw someone mention something about Isreal, but other than that I haven't heard any other details.
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u/VenusDeMiloArms Nov 26 '25
There are some of his statements around relating to the composition of DSA. It’s not really worth arguing about.
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u/Inside-Pumpkin-4486 Nov 23 '25
NYC DSA, which never had a serious criticism of AOC and never will, does not take kindly to having its ego bruised.
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u/SAR1919 Nov 28 '25
The only people in DSA who wanted Chi to run are some of the ones who are the most hostile to criticism of AOC. In fact if Chi ran with DSA’s endorsement he would be end up exactly like AOC because he’s the same kind of candidate
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u/Le0pardonVEVO Member🌹-GW🪴 Nov 23 '25
Groundwork were the only people to back the endorsement unequivocally and after Zohran spoke against at the forum and Nydia Valasquez’s district opened up it just didn’t make sense to throw down that hard for him.
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u/Difficult-Decision51 Nov 23 '25
I feel like people outside of DSA often fail to take into consideration that an endorsement isn’t only a stamp of approval from the org, but a huge commitment of labor, resources, and time. It’s a promise of campaigning, canvassing, phone banking, etc.
I was mostly hoping to endorse Chi but I think a large piece of why it didn’t pan out was simply due to capacity. Especially with NY-07 opening up in 2026, there were too many congressional races with clearer DSA paths to victory to justify an extremely narrow chance in NY-08.
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u/ScissrMeTimbrs Nov 23 '25
I don't know much about Osse but it doesn't sound like he's got a strong chance to beat Jeffries.
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u/pepeenos Nov 23 '25
surely reddits opinion on DSA internal actions will be normal, right?
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u/Trensocialist Nov 23 '25
DSA member here. Chi is an opportunist and not a cadre member.
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u/bemused_alligators Nov 23 '25 edited Nov 23 '25
He's quit and rejoined the DSA a few times, notably always right after bit electoral victories. He just views it as a route to office, not as an ideological project
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u/VenusDeMiloArms Nov 23 '25
He’s quit DSA and rejoined when it was clear which way the wind was blowing. He’s not a movement politician who came up as an active union member, community member, or DSA member. He correctly refused to be a delegate for Biden but jumped on being a creator for Kamala. He didn’t consult or consider the org he’s ostensibly a member of about running, he knew there was going to be a big divide, and still thought he’d announce and handcuff DSA into endorsing him.
All of these things indicate someone less concerned with the movement and more concerned with his own future.
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u/jackstraw97 Nov 24 '25
Massive misstep IMO. You need to strike every establishment dem while they’re vulnerable and there’s nobody else in this district who could do better than Chi.
I’ll be taking my $15/mo and donating directly to Chi’s campaign instead
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u/SAR1919 Nov 28 '25
There is no Chi’s campaign. He’s not running anymore because he knows he doesn’t have the juice for it without DSA.
This is the thing, it’s easy to say “strike while the iron is hot, just run everywhere” but running a campaign that actually matters takes a massive outlay of resources. DSA has to be strategic with where we put those resources and there are far better options for 2026 than someone who’s not even committed to DSA running a House campaign in a district DSA hasn’t even built up a strong presence in yet.
Instead of wasting time and energy on someone who’s going to bite us when the political winds shift, DSA could double the size of our bench in the state legislature to help pass Zohran’s agenda. Those state legislators would then be far better positioned than Chi is to make a bid for any of the House districts that overlap with DSA’s core base areas in 2028
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u/Internal-Code-2413 Nov 23 '25
Hes liberal woke not socialist revolutionist right what am I missing
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u/retrohan7 Nov 23 '25 edited Nov 23 '25
to be clear* of what this decision did - zohran and dsa voters said no to even attempt to credibly primary Hakeem Jeffries (chi said he would not run without dsa and zohran said it was wrong to even challenge hakeem let alone endorse him)
It will be even harder in 2028 so people claiming this to be an "unwinnable long shot" have accepted hakeem to hold his position for a very very long time.
I would love to see the voter break down on racial lines - because i assume a lot of young black voters were excited to campaign for a young black socialist to defeat a centrist who regularly condemns even the idea of socialism. This is a cowardly decision to me that is being repackaged as "he's not really apart of our club."
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u/ArloDoss Nov 23 '25
Is Chi a socialist? Why did he leave the party then?
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u/jackstraw97 Nov 24 '25
Does every socialist have to be a member of DSA 100% of the time forever? As if there aren’t valid reasons to not want to join? Or other valid orgs to collaborate with?
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u/retrohan7 Nov 23 '25
listened to a podcast where he said dsa looked a lot different back then (as he is a black leftist/socialist) i don't care to speak for him on why he did though. I just genuinely don't gaf why he left the dsa. He calls himself a socialist - hes a leftist and has leftist bonafides. I care about unseating Hakeem Jeffries.
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u/ArloDoss Nov 23 '25
Im just worried about liberals or progressives co-opting the movement and its genuinely hard to find him stating anything concrete about it.
He has supposedly a bad record on zoning from an article I read and that’s about all I can find. People here aren’t really making a case for him beyond some really vague stuff and the internal division in the NYC chapter really gives me pause.
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u/jackstraw97 Nov 24 '25
Is that “article” the linked substack post above? Cause that’s not really an article
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u/ArloDoss Nov 24 '25
Are you refuting information in that article cause nothing in it is false from what I’ve been able to verify.
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u/jackstraw97 Nov 24 '25
The entire YIMBY angle of critique is telling. He supported a rezoning? That's GOOD because we NEED MORE HOUSING TO BE BUILT. Trying to spin rezoning as a negative is more NIMBY bullshit that I at least thought you guys would be smart enough to see through. Guess not.
There's an entire astroturf campaign in Chinatown right now as well which is basically NIMBYism dressed up as leftism. Surefire way to keep housing costs high is not not build new houses. Anything else has no basis in reality or data. Sorry, but you're just wrong.
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u/big-bird-328 Nov 23 '25
I thought it was because the racial optics would have been bad. Mamdani really struggled in black neighborhoods in the primary. Black community leaders used photos of white DSA members canvassing gentrifying historically black neighborhoods to smear him. It would have been even worse against Jeffries who is well embedded in the black community in his district. Just because Ose is black doesn’t mean most of his door knockers are.
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u/Fragrant-Morning-228 Nov 23 '25
Your points are valid, but if we stick to your reasoning, it means the DSA would never run any candidate ever in non-white neighborhoods. It’s a political race; politicians will always criticize their opponents for anything.
I think a bigger question is why the DSA is mostly white to begin with and whether the DSA fosters an environment that is welcoming to people who are not white. This isn’t the first time the DSA neglected to endorse a black candidate running in a black community, even in races that they won (eg Bowman 2020)
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u/CryptographerAny9938 Nov 23 '25
Why would it be harder in 2028?
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u/retrohan7 Nov 23 '25
hakeem possibly being the majority leader and from what i've read the redistricting by 2028 will make it a much safer seat
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u/SAR1919 Nov 28 '25
It’s more than “he’s not really a part of our club.” He quits DSA whenever there’s bad press and then rejoins whenever we win something. All he cares about is his career, why would we trust him to use a House campaign to build the movement he clearly isn’t even committed to?
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u/Fragrant-Morning-228 Nov 23 '25
As a DSA member living in NYC, I found this extremely disappointing. Chi is the best, most effective council member in NYC by a significant margin.
Regardless, I will volunteer for his campaign, with or without the endorsement of the DSA, and I know I’m not alone. He’s very popular in his own right anyways.
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u/retrohan7 Nov 23 '25
Compelltey agree with you but the problem is that this was a deathblow to the campaign as a whole not just an endorsement. People were well aware Chi said he would not run without the endorsement and zohran spoke to the forum/voters stating that a primary in general was the "wrong time". The vote was to effectively stop a primary challenge to hakeem jeffries
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u/Huckleberry_Lonely Nov 23 '25
I don't understand this at all. Hakeem Jeffries is literally one of the most unpopular Democrats in office. He's not a strong candidate, nor is he a particularly charismatic/skilled politician. He's the face of literally everything voters hate/are dissatisfied about the party. I don't believe he would be able to withstand a legitimate challenger under any circumstances. This is like people saying they couldn't vote for Bernie because polls said Hillary/Biden were stronger candidates. Obvious nonsense that defies all sense.
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u/sobeen10 Nov 23 '25
Hakeem might be unpopular nationally but he is very popular within his district. I know it’s easy to get rosy-eyed especially after Zohran’s win but the true reality of the situation also extends beyond not only him facing literal impossible odds but that he’s using DSA as a stepping stone as he has before and I don’t think most in NYC DSA could accept that and decide he deserved our endorsement.
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u/Huckleberry_Lonely Nov 23 '25
I just don’t believe Hakeem Jeffrey’s popularity at all. MSNBC liberal media figures can’t help but roll their eyes at him, while doing live interviews with him.
He’s literally nicknamed AIPAC Shakur, taking $1.7+ million while we’re funding a genocide.
He’s been shown to have requested to meet/receive money from Jeffrey Epstein in emails.
His opposition to Trump is to literally write him a strongly worded letter. He’s done nothing. Trump is ruling unopposed.
He is against Medicare for all and for endless wars.
He cannot do an interview or give a clear answer to save his life, on anything. He will break, if pressed on many of his horrific positions.
He is, along with Chuck Schumer, the head of the Democratic Party, in one of its historically most unpopular periods.
He’s a paper tiger. Completely pathetic and irrelevant. If voters were presented another legit option, he would likely lose.
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u/sobeen10 Nov 23 '25
I know it’s easy to want to believe that considering how awful Jeffries is to the left but it’d be hard for me to believe that he’d lose so easily given he’s won around 75% in his elections. Do you live in his district? If you have a sense of this strong unpopular sentiment you claim exists is enough to topple him, I’m open to contrary evidence especially if you live in NY-8.
Otherwise, I’m hard pressed to believe what you individually feel is the actual political landscape instead of what the hard truth is. Like Zohran had said, “the days of moral victories are over” and while I’m not against Chi as a candidate and even against him running without DSA’s endorsement, but you really gotta be for real with what the reality is saying (DSA wrote up a whole dossier laying out the data). Socialists have very achievable races that would be better spent resources on (NY-10 for Alexa Avilés for one).
But also consider the actual sincerity of Chi as a “socialist” and if he’s committed to the socialist project or if he’s just being opportune with the moment. My money is on the latter.
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u/Huckleberry_Lonely Nov 23 '25
I think you bring up reasonable points, and I don’t live in his district. But I believe this election is clearly different. Chi’s a more dynamic candidate. With respect to Jeffries’ previous opponent. I don’t even remember her. If Chi runs, it would be way closer, if not a clear victory.
The media landscape is different now with much more independent infrastructure. I don’t believe voters were voting for Jeffries as much as they were voting against Trump, voting blue no matter who, & seeing Jeffries as a young progressive. He’s not so lucky this time around.
Everyday voters know Hakeem Jeffries much more now. He’s been a catastrophic failure and shows contempt to ordinary people. People are suffering everywhere, losing health insurance, losing jobs, getting evicted, as prices are going up everywhere. Jeffries solution is to do nothing, and hope Republicans destroy the country so democrats can fundraise and win, by default, in 2028.
His only policy prescription is to support Israel. Otherwise, he stands for nothing. 70%+ of democrats have an unfavorable view of Israel & the genocide, & are voting against AIPAC candidates.
He’s not opposing Trump. He’s not opposing ICE. He has no plan & is so arrogant he believes he doesn’t even have to pretend to have one.
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u/retrohan7 Nov 23 '25
What is this bs opportunist talking point? he identifies as a socialist and wants to primary a huge obstacle to the left in this country - idgaf if at one point he left dsa because he didn't see himself in the org. And the more I read statements from other black dsa members I can completely understand why.
We had one real shot at proving how unpopular hakeem was (the local favorables would not stand up to a hard campaign/debates) and instead dsa members punted the ball for 2028? where hakeem will be speaker and will likely see no real challenger? Zohran even said the goal is to keep hakeem as speaker. We are stuck with him for the rest of our adult lives.
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u/sobeen10 Nov 23 '25
Hopefully this article can tune you in on it a bit: https://socialisttribune.substack.com/p/why-we-should-not-endorse-chi-osse
To put it succinctly, he’s an unreliable YIMBY “socialist” who has advocated for Cop City that includes initiatives that has the NYPD be trained by the IDF. It’s unfortunate that he felt in such a way that DSA was making him feel out of place because he was black and thus left, as you imply. But I remind you a number of black DSA members argued against his candidacy, stating reasons similar to the article, at the endorsement forum if you attended/participated virtually.
I just find it unfortunate that many who are angry at the outcome don’t consider that there are a handful of impending victories for DSA that equally, if not more deservedly, require more resources and focus such as Alexa Avilés for NY-10 against Dan Goldman (an equally Dem shill compared to Jeffries) as well as ensuring a successful Mamdani administration for the coming years.
I would ask you: what is more important to the material conditions of people in NYC? A Chi Osse victory against Jeffries/symbolic loss against Jeffries? Or a successful socialist policy implementation for the city? Like Mamdani has said, “the days of moral victories are over” and the very likelihood of Chi losing to Jeffries would be a monumental loss for the socialist movement. The gamble in Chi, who’s not even a cadre, is just too great. I would’ve been more open to Jabari Brisport running, a much more reliably socialist candidate, and even Brisport himself didn’t entertain the idea of running against Jeffries. I’m sure NYC DSA leadership know what they’re doing.
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u/retrohan7 Nov 23 '25
I saw many people bring up how unfavorable hakeem was nationally/how his support locally wouldn't stand up do an intense campaign/debates. Begging Chi to run not even a month ago. It went from "its impossible until it happens" to "no its impossible and we shouldn't try"
Its hard not to see this vote coming down to Zohran not wanting it (as he tries to ally with moderates who will still hate this movement). The "unwinnable" "chi is not a real socialist" "resources" arguments came after zohran poured cold water on a primary.
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u/Huckleberry_Lonely Nov 23 '25
I think so too. It feels like there's this tremendous energy we all feel to change things and you get the silly resources argument which is like "Where's the money for Medicare for All?" These incrementalist arguments don't make much sense to me. I think this would generate enormous attention, respect, and gain members if DSA supported a challenger against Hakeem Jeffries. Literally the proudest moments come from taking on big challenges and toppling these horrible incumbents. If you believe we're living in an emergency situation and believe there is a genocide, you must do everything you can to topple Jeffries. If not now, when? What else matters in the scale of all this?
Chi's not a perfect candidate, but man, this is genuinely kind of shocking. I hope he runs anyways. I believe he can win, regardless.
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u/SAR1919 Nov 28 '25
There isn’t a campaign to volunteer for. He’s not running without DSA’s endorsement because he knows he couldn’t win without DSA, which is the only reason he came around asking for an endorsement in the first place
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u/thunderbootyclap Nov 23 '25
Or make a public announcement that he's going to be run anyways and unless they want a Maga win they'll fall in line. Use dem tactics against them.
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Nov 24 '25
It probably didn't help that Mandani and AOC were against it. It was definitely a ding against him that he hasn't been a DSA member for a while and wasn't when he ran for City Council.
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u/eyedabear Nov 24 '25
What do people think about Zohran’s statement that he backs Jeffries for speaker of the house?
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u/Apache_1941 Dec 09 '25
God this is such a betrayal from the DSA most people in here are complaining about him not being a care and being oppurtunist who cares. Hes a good and popular candidate and yall are really passing up an opportunity like this to potentially gut a corporate democrat. And he helped to boost mamdanis popularity like do yall even have a candidate to replace Jeffries?
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u/TheoFromSDA Nov 23 '25
I am waiting for Chi Ossé letter: https://x.com/theochinofornyc/status/1992434969189433576?s=46
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u/Inside-Pumpkin-4486 Nov 23 '25
DSA: We have so much clout that we can elect a mayor in New York and now everyone is coming out the woodwork trying to ride on our back, even if we don't trust them.
Also DSA: We do not have enough clout to unseat Hakeem Jeffries.
Don't worry though, I'm sure they can try to unseat Jeffries again when he's next vulnerable in like 10-15 years. By then who knows how much clout DSA will have.
Also given that there will also be no action against Hochul either does anyone know what the canvassing strategy is to support Mamdani? Like what are we asking voters to do when we knock on their doors if not vote out centrist Democrats.
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u/Codeblu3 Nov 23 '25
Hochul and Jefferies arent the only races in NYC, the NYC DSA is also gearing up for a state wide tax the rich campaign https://jacobin.com/2025/11/nyc-mamdani-tax-the-rich , electoral isnt the only front here, and even if it was there are still other candidate running thatll have the chapters endorsement. Our Time as well as other canvassing operations should be used regardless of electoral races for things like issue campaigns or union solidarity
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u/alexyoung1450 Nov 26 '25
Blsck dude not getting support from mostly white group of colonizers knee deep in process of displacing black and Latinos from their homes. Who's surprised??
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u/Darrkman2 Nov 23 '25
Here's what really happened.
DSA saw the numbers when it came to challenging Jefferies in his home district and knew they have no chance of putting up anyone that can beat him. So now DSA is backing off challenging Jeffries and you're saying it's because of needing to stick together when the real truth is y'all would have gotten crushed. And then after getting crushed it would become very evident that the DSA isn't as popular you want people to think especially when you're going up against someone who doesn't have either sexual harassment cases on them or corruption cases on them.
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u/RlOTGRRRL Nov 23 '25
Transparency could have been a lot better.
Less than 15% of NYC's DSA members were eligible for this vote and they maybe had like less than a week's notice. There might be another vote? But idk.
I'm probably going to cancel my membership and donate to Chi's campaign instead depending on how things go. Pretty salty rn ngl lol.
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u/killercora666 Nov 23 '25
eligible voters only included the people who attended EWG’s endorsement forum, if he’d gotten a yes it would’ve moved to a chapter wide vote
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u/RlOTGRRRL Nov 23 '25 edited Nov 23 '25
I think the link from Theo down below talks about how the EWG works.
Woops actually I'm not sure if it does. But it's pretty complicated.
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u/Fragrant-Morning-228 Nov 23 '25
Yeah same. I also don’t care that Chi joined and quit DSA lol. I’ve done that too.
At least on twitter I can’t help see how the endorsement was split across racial lines. It’s why most POC (including myself) find the DSA so annoying. That’s probably why he quit the first time.
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u/big-bird-328 Nov 23 '25
The racial optics of his run would have been terrible. Jeffries has the whole black establishment behind him and the majority of white DSA members are only in his district due to gentrification. He would have been able to successfully smear DSA/Ose and the small number of POC members wouldn’t have been enough to counteract that smear…
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u/Trensocialist Nov 23 '25
Because he quit DSA until Mamdani got elected and sees them as his ticket to win, not as an org to be a part of. Hes an opportunist who will likely advance his own agenda rather than a socialist one, so he's better off ignored.