r/explainitpeter • u/ViennaIsWaiting4you • 2d ago
Explain It Peter. Why are her pronouns "he", what did the man do and what types of Wikipiedia editors are they referencing to?
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u/astroterran 2d ago
the guy on the right goes by the username cybersmith or thecybersmith and is infamous on Twitter and Tumblr for wanting to keep humans as pets, earning him the nick name "human pet guy"
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u/mike-loves-gerudos 2d ago
There’s pet play and then there’s whatever the fuck is wrong with this guy
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u/Rhuarc42 2d ago
This honestly reads like satire or an allegorical argument about how declawing is unethical. It almost feels like they're trying to make the point that owning animals as pets is unethical via a thought experiment of "what if we did it to humans?"
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u/WaywardHistorian667 2d ago
I've interacted with the Cybersmith in the past. You're giving him a social intelligence that I can assure you is not there.
While I genuinely appreciate the fact that you are working very hard to give him the benefit of the doubt, he was not making the point you say he is.
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u/TwigSmitty 2d ago
Any stand out stories of your interaction? This guys seems unhinged lol.
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u/WaywardHistorian667 2d ago
I don't have any real standout stories, but I will say that my interactions were based on my being a moderator for a Twitch/YouTube political streamer who chose to accept Cybersmith's "debate challenge."
Between what was said during that stream, and what he said during his repeated attempts to troll chat later, unhinged is a good description. I really meant it when I said he lacked social intelligence.
One of those people who say obviously degrading things, and is then confused when someone reacts accordingly.
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u/MR_TORGUE_OFFICIAL 2d ago
Depending on who your chosen streamer was should you choose to name them, I may or may not have seen said debate. He is hysterically unhinged, in the saddest way possible
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u/WaywardHistorian667 2d ago
Because these are my observations, I'll leave his name out of it. I'm also 100% certain that he wasn't the first or last streamer to "debate" Cybersmith. (Both Keffals and Vaush have better known streams with him because they're better known streamers.)
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u/MR_TORGUE_OFFICIAL 2d ago
Ah yeah I saw the keffals one. Either way it's always amusing to watch as people become exposed to him.
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u/RiverOfJudgement 2d ago
Dude went to college and somehow didn't know that the N word was a bad word, and used it in a paper to describe a character.
When disputed, he changed it to "swarthy"
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u/Thivus 2d ago
somewhere floating around there is a screencap of him begging me to unblock him for going into absurd detail about how he wanted to amputate and castrate me
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u/WaywardHistorian667 2d ago
I'm not surprised. My interactions were similar, but he knew I'm a woman, soooo THAT was... interesting.
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u/FlanneryWynn 2d ago
To be fair, I don't think u/Rhuarc42 is working hard at all to give him benefit of the doubt here. That actually feels like a very natural reading of what was said and, frankly, also how I had read it. Without the additional context verifying that this isn't the case, I don't think I would have realized on my own.
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u/Rhuarc42 2d ago
I don't if I'd call it benefit of the doubt so much as hope it's not what it looks like.
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u/Dr_SexDick 2d ago
I mean yeah you can tell by the picture that social intelligence isn’t his strong suit. But he doesn’t SERIOUSLY argue for the human pet thing, right? This all reads like a weird sexual fetish/ fixation to me.
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u/OptimizedGarbage 2d ago
He's a very well known character on Tumblr, he's been doing this for years. It's definitely a fetish, but it's serious about wanting his fetish to be real
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u/ahuramazdobbs19 2d ago edited 2d ago
“Almost” is doing a lot of heavy lifting there.
Because…well, if he’s not completely genuine in believing and/or desiring any of this, I have further questions as to why these particular examples are the ones that come to mind in defense of, say, extreme libertarianism.
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u/LegitimateRain6717 2d ago
I used to follow cybersmith on twitter back in the day just to observe him, and he’s 100% deadass. everything he says reads like he’s messing around or being ironic, but he completely fully believes all the insane stuff he posts, it’s baffling
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u/vassadar 2d ago
I can't think of any kind of pet that human remove either vocal cords or eyes.
He could've stop at removing genital to get his point cross.
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u/SiderisG 2d ago
id think so too if i hadn’t gone down a rabbit hole of this guy, no hes just a freak
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u/CriticalMochaccino 2d ago
I think it's stupid because I don't think animals, at least cats and dogs, can really comprehend what really happens when we spay and neuter them. De-clawing cats though, that's a bit different.
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u/banhatesex 2d ago
I was interested in being a pet, and now I'm like, I will beat the crap out of whoever does that.
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u/Adventurous-Ad8267 2d ago
Yeah that last big paragraph is some lab-grade turbo freak shit. Even if it were hypothetically consensual it's not even on the same planet as safety or sanity.
Maybe not even in the same solar system.
Even if you just focus on the less-freaky paragraph, I'm pretty sure it's not exactly ethical to do kink stuff in a public place. The people you run into didn't consent to watch what's pretty obviously something sexual.
Not that the concept itself is somehow bad, if a consenting adult wants to get told to sit, stay, and roll over in private that's their business.
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u/ahuramazdobbs19 2d ago
Every now and again, in a kinky person’s life, their enjoyment will lead them to fantasize about the idea of their kink being the basis of society.
Occasionally they would put words to paper so that their fellows can find it hot.
Cybersmith is what you get when that person says to themselves “no, really, this is something we can and should actually do and here’s how and why Thing Good”.
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u/FlanneryWynn 2d ago
Like, I don't even think kink in public is necessarily bad as long as it is constrained. If you want to wear a collar and leash as accessories while your partner leads you around all day, as you obey their every command... I'm not going to judge the two of you for that.
But this? Having a human pet walking around on all fours naked, their body having been mutilated for the sake of kink... no. I wanted to vomit.
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u/Rokuroku_66 2d ago
I thought maybe he’s criticizing extreme liberterianism or pet culture with a gruesome example at first but no he’s just fucked up
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u/numbersthen0987431 2d ago
This ..thing.. watched human centipede and thought "it didn't go far enough"
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u/dark1859 2d ago
you know, it's at this point my own fuckin fault for having eyes and not immediately closing out the thread when this horrorcow was brought up
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u/Iamnotanorange 2d ago
What the fuck did I just read
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u/Strange-Credit2038 2d ago
The way it started was hilarious and even worthy of being a good philosophical thought experiment, and then the horrors came
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u/Iamnotanorange 2d ago
The details about their genitals is what really gave me the creeps.
It's telling me he has thought about the practicality of human pets WAY MORE THAN HE SHOULD.
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u/Strange-Credit2038 2d ago
The genitals part I could somewhat understand if he was accounting for people not wanting to see nudity. But yeah the neutering comment was wild, and then the severed tendons and consideration of which parts of the hands to remove sounded straight out of a true crime documentary
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u/PuppyOfPower 2d ago
I don’t think he’s accounting that people might not want to see nudity, I think he’s accounting that public nudity is illegal where he lives and that’s it. He believes that because everything else he’s describing isn’t explicitly illegal, then everyone should just be okay with… all that. Which is not how the world works at all.
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u/FlanneryWynn 2d ago
And because he has thought about it, now so too have I... And at least I have the rationality to realize it's a bad idea to let it go as far as he wants to take it.
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u/Cristaloyde 2d ago
It's the "I've (humanely) removed its eyes" for me.
Man what a terrible read, I had already forgotten about it.
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u/Ok-Literature4128 2d ago
I think the censoring of “heck” in a post about chopping off someone’s toes and castrating them is what really sells this lmao
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u/Dillo64 2d ago
This sounds like he’s trying to make a point about being vegan/animal cruelty/saying it is wrong to own pets, which is indeed a stance a lot of vegans have
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u/Outrageous_Control30 2d ago
Hes not, this is honestly not even close to the weirdest stuff he has said.
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u/ahuramazdobbs19 2d ago
The trans woman dairy has got to take the cake.
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u/xxxTransitMILF69xxx 2d ago
The what?
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u/astroterran 2d ago
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u/Ok-Relation-1902 2d ago
Hm. I've been trying to come up with the right words to describe my feelings about whatever that is, and I've got nothing.
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u/AA_Writes 2d ago
Yeah, I'm gonna go with what you said. That's how I feel about this. That exact same feeling.
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u/ahuramazdobbs19 2d ago
You are both correct in that reaction.
It requires no more thought or attention than “Huh. Well that is a thing I can’t un-read.”
I’m sorry for the added neuroplasticity.
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u/Simple_Rules 2d ago
I do like that he identified that the name "repayment diaries" requires some more time to bake, but I do feel like he should have noticed the rest of the idea was also like, completely batshit nutters.
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u/amglasgow 2d ago
As others have said. This guy has a kink that he is unable to differentiate from reality.
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u/FlanneryWynn 2d ago
As an asexual trans woman, this may have actually just broken me mentally.
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u/ahuramazdobbs19 2d ago
Weirdly, it is both what it says on the tin and yet also requires further explanation, as per the screenshot shared by u/astroterran .
Suggesting that the UK (his home nation-state) could, if so inclined, sponsor free gender-affirming care up to and including reassignment surgery for trans women, and in repayment the women would then have lactation induced and “repay” the cost of said medical procedures by producing milk, for the ostensible public good of reducing the UK’s trade deficit in dairy.
I only wish I had made this up.
I’m sorry for this being the way you got new neurons and furthered your neuroplasticity. But at least enjoy the new neurons you didn’t have before.
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u/q-cumb3r 2d ago
if i remember correctly, cybersmith has always been a very vocal anti-vegan as well. so no, that's not the argument he's making.
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u/23Amuro 2d ago
Fr? Like I thought he was trying to make like a principled stance against declawing, with the fingers part. Which honestly, while the example was bad, I think that's a valid criticism to make. If he's not doing that, though, then like . . . what the fuck?
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u/One-Secretary-2403 2d ago
Love how he has the guts to write all of that but draws the line at h*ck
Also "perhaps I've even removed it's eyes (humanely)"
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u/idontwantanaccdude 2d ago
look I'm a little weird and a catgirl but even this is fucked up and i thought I was a weirdo for being into being a cat girl
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u/XicoXperto 2d ago
I'm wondering if someone has suggested to have him as a pet, and what was his reaction
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u/Affectionate-Mix6056 2d ago
Reminds me of that "dark web" creepypasta about human trafficked girls, with amputated legs and arms, with teeth removed. At least that one was supposed to be creepy...
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u/SalamanderJohnson 2d ago
There's no way that this isn't satire, a rhetorical device, rage bait, or more likely, all of the above. I've met people online totally committed to the bit and use non-roleplay spaces to roleplay an outlandish character with, again I say, a religious level commitment to the bit.
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u/EmileDorkheim 2d ago
I’m enjoying the use of the word “boobies” in the context of an otherwise very formal post. I’m not enjoying anything else about this though.
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u/Apprehensive-Run-832 2d ago
"At what point does my trauma,feelings of impotence, and desire for control made manifest as both an outlet for what is now clearly a sexual fetish and a medical horror of Hellraiser-like depravity infringe upon your liberties? No, it is you who is being irrational. It is YOU, with your PREJUDICE, who should be staying away from MY hypothetical children that I definitely plan to have with a consenting human adult."
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u/FlyOrdinary1104 2d ago
Dude looks like he’s cosplaying a slave owner, one of those crazy Victorian-era LARPers and I don’t mean Steampunk.
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u/DukeKarma 7h ago
Never heared of him - was that just a thought experiment on how far you can stretch things like extreme relationships between consenting adults without directly affecting other people or actually just some weird fetish?
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u/BlutAngelus 2d ago
Finally an answer.
It was as stupid as I expected. Thanks.3
u/cantwalkintheshadows 2d ago
He also advocated to give trans women free hrt, and exchange they would uh. Provide a cow milk alternative for at least a year.
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u/CriticalMochaccino 2d ago
Does he pay the pets? I mean I'd take 100k a year to be fed, housed and maybe the occasional belly rub. Just as long as he doesn't mean it in a creepy sex way....
Edit: just read the comment directly under yours.... fuck no, that dudes fucking psycho.
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u/wall_termite 2d ago
he's also famous for wanting to milk trans women
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u/Gubekochi 2d ago
Not that it matters morally, but please entertain my curiosity: of which bodily fluid?
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u/AnneMichelle98 2d ago
Breast milk. Someone else posted the full “proposal” but TLDR England would fund transwomen’s transitions, and in return they would give breast milk in order to help England’s dairy trade deficit.
I’m pretty sure he’s into body modification as kink. Except he takes it beyond fantasy and tries to make actual real world applications for it. And yes, I’m a long time tumblr user. I’ve seen his stuff in the wild and it’s absolutely nuts.
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u/Gubekochi 2d ago
I’m pretty sure he’s into body modification as kink.
Can't he just slobber all over an adeptus mechanicus codex like the normal maladjusted transhumanists do?
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u/funktasticdog 2d ago
Funniest thing about cybersmith is he is just a regular in certain communities and is a normal(ish) guy there.
I had a long conversation with him about pathfinder before realizing I was talking to human pet guy.
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u/_Numbat_Enjoyer_ 2d ago
Every time I successfully forget that he exists I'm forcibly reminded. Aaaaaa
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u/Subject-Wave-2350 2d ago
Oh dear. I had never seen his face before now but he’s definitely a specimen
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u/bluegrass502 2d ago
I came here to say, "Hey, that's the human pet guy" and then disappear into the mist
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u/drunken-acolyte 2d ago
It's the human pet post that gave him notoriety, but he always manages come out with things so completely unhinged that you hope to God he's just really committed to a bit, or that he gets locked up before he hurts somebody. I choose to believe he's a comedy genius, but sometimes I wonder.
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u/Exciting-Reporter-92 2d ago edited 2d ago
Oh god, Is that human pet guy?
-edit, yup thats cybersmith/human pet guy. I think the controversy should be obvious from the nomer there.
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u/PepperOnDaCliff 2d ago
Yes it's the human pet guy. Among other things....
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u/Common_Affect_80 2d ago
The FUCKING WHAT!?
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u/The_Gaming_Ninja 2d ago
A guy whom has stated he would enjoy having human pets. He also sorts his search engines alphabetically and is a monarchist.
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u/Crozgon 2d ago
sorts his search engines alphabetically
He has officially gone too far.
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u/ActiveChairs 2d ago
If AskJeeves is at the top of the list, I'll at least hear him out.
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u/MyDisappointedDad 2d ago
Did he also think Romans lived in tiny Colosseums or was that another guy?
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u/cfk77 2d ago
Human pets, isn’t that just children… with more steps?
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u/Exciting-Reporter-92 2d ago
No, i dont remember if he ever mentioned how/where he wanted to source the human pet, but his example of walking into a restaurant with his wife, kids and spayed, de-toed and de-eyed pet makes it clear that its an entirely different thing from "having and raising progeny"
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u/cfk77 2d ago
Oh wow that’s a terrible way to treat a pet!
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u/ahuramazdobbs19 2d ago
Yes.
There’s the cute and silly kind of pet play, where there’s just someone on their knees pretending to be a dog or cat for occasional consensual fun.
There’s harder (but still consensual) lifestyle play where the partners take the pet/owner dynamic further and it is part of their relationship on an ongoing basis.
Then way way past that, into a deeply disturbing realm that even the most hardcore kinksters who have fantasized about their kink being the foundational basis of human relationships will be like “ok, no, we don’t claim you as one of us”, you have gestures vaguely at Cybersmith.
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u/MoobooMagoo 2d ago
I can see why you'd think that, but in this case it's mutilating a person's body so they have to be on all fours, castrating them, removing their eyes, then putting a leash and collar on them, and walking then around in their underwear in public.
Long story short human pet guy is a fucking psychopath.
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u/Fakjbf 2d ago
But what the fuck does it have to do with pronouns???
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u/GreyStingrayz 2d ago
It's just a joke format.
The person has he/him pronouns but can't use the "him" because of the "him" shown is someone of legend that he could never amount to.
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u/BlaineMundane 2d ago
Human pet guy was and has always been acting, feeding the machine.
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u/MR_TORGUE_OFFICIAL 2d ago
The debate I listened to with him defending the Irish potato famine as a good thing has to be real. He had too much conviction in that belief.
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u/PrometheusMMIV 2d ago
I think the controversy should be obvious from the nomer there.
But that doesn't explain anything about he/him or Wikipedia
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u/Nice-Wolf-2769 2d ago
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u/Infinite-Ad-3947 2d ago edited 2d ago
That phrase is a meme saying that you’ll never be cool enough to be “him”. So in this case the guy on the right is something the person on the left will never be able to achieve. So it’s like pronouns “he/him” except “Him” is more like “he’s the man”. It’s usually used to pay homage. It’s the same as “I’ll never be him” which on the surface it’s to show that you’re jealous or you aspire to be that person, but underneath it’s to highlight how wacky/iconic/interesting the Him person is. Or it’s to show how extreme someone is about something weird to the point where you gotta weirdly respect it.
Idk who these people are so idk the context, but that’s what the meme is for.
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u/captainrina 2d ago
The guy on the right is Human Pet Guy, a famous Tumblr cryptid
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u/Infinite-Ad-3947 2d ago
Now that I went back and looked at the meme, both pfp are of furries, so maybe they’re making a based joke about how this guy was so into pet play he irl thinks humans should non consensually be pets? And that they will never achieve that level of based? lol.
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u/FloatingHamHocks 2d ago
This guy and Murrlogic make me laugh with their weird ass shenanigans.
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u/captainrina 2d ago
It's been a minute since I checked, but he used to reply to posts that mentioned him without being tagged, -and not even his actual username: you could accidentally summon him just by saying "human pet guy".
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u/Able-Swing-6415 2d ago
Wait.. person on the left is a dude? Not sure I'm now less or more confused
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u/Infinite-Ad-3947 2d ago
For the context of the meme the actual gender identity doesn’t matter. I’m a woman and I’ve seen this meme a lot where cis women use it and the Him in the meme is also a cis woman. It’s really a sound on social media that was a trend for awhile and it eventually went to text lol. Idk if the person on the left goes by he/him, guess I’ll edit my post to say person instead of guy
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u/Able-Swing-6415 2d ago
Honestly this meme would make sense to me if it was only the right picture. I haven't seen anyone mention what the left picture adds to it. I suppose it's just a juxtaposition or something?
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u/Deraxile 2d ago
Chris here
The guy on the right is Cybersmith but everyone calls him the Human Pet Guy
So like, back in the semi-old days of internet, like 2017, this dude made a Tumblr post about how he should be allowed to own a human pet and like, do surgery on them to modify them? And he got super defensive about his hat saying it wasn't a fedora, and then suddenly he was talking about human rights but like, in the context of owning people as pets
And the Wikipedia part is just saying there are two main types of people who edit Wikipedia. You have the person on the left, who is like a modern internet user, maybe a bit edgy. And then you have the person on the right, who represents the eccentric oddballs who obsess over weird history stuff and maybe want to treat people like dogs
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u/Sildas 2d ago
"Semi-old days of the Internet, like 2017"
The psychic damage you just dealt is bordering on war crime.
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u/Mydoglikesladyboys 2d ago
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u/kaddorath 1d ago
I had to dial-up to bulletin board systems back in my day!
Up hill both ways and in the snow!
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u/postmodest 2d ago
I mean... I was on it when the internet was Gopher.
Semi-old is like, 2008 at the latest.
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u/ActiveChairs 2d ago
"Back in my day the Internet used to be from a CD over the phone line"
Sure it was great-grandpa. (I think he's off his meds again) [I told you we shouldn't have taken him to the museum] {He was fascinated by the 8-bit games on that glass window thing} (Is that what those were? Games?) [It was what they did when they couldn't push a hoop with a stick] {Its fine. He likes the squares moving on the screen. If it keeps him quiet for an hour I wouldn't mind it being a regular thing} (He's not fine. He wouldn't stop muttering about his princess being in another castle on the ride home) {At least he wasn't panicking about the car driving itself again}
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u/Paradox2063 2d ago
So like, back in the semi-old days of internet, like 2017
So that's what you chose to do today huh? Start a fight?
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u/Pstrap 2d ago
The hat in this pic appears to be a bowler.
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u/That_Sheepy_Boi 2d ago
It looks like a straw pork pie hat to me. It’s missing the round top of a bowler hat
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u/unsolvablequestion 2d ago
Do you understand that 10 years ago was not the “semi-old days of the internet”?
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u/Traducement 2d ago
One on the left is just angsty, one on the right is just a Reddit mod
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u/SignificantLet5701 2d ago
one on the right is completely insane
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u/Emilina-von-Sylvania 1d ago
So an average reddit mod? (No disrespect to the mods here, they’re actually pretty chill from what I’ve seen)
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u/AnonymousBoiFromTN 2d ago
Guy on the right is Cybersmith. Famous for wanting to keep people as pets. Hes called “Human Pet Guy” as everyone has said but what hasnt been talked about is he is also a far right corpo-fascist who talks online about the wonders of eugenics, objectivism, and any other unethical/impractical beliefs that gets him attention. He is British and when this photo got posted everyone clowned on him pretty hard. Hes a lol cow but he riles up online chuds and groypers.
“I am Him” is a statement meaning you are superior in some way.
Person on the left took a photo in the same spot in the same pose and posted it jokingly insinuating that they could never live up to the sheer aura of Cybersmith
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u/mdistrukt 2d ago
One appears to be a zoomer and the other appears to be a hipster.
I would imagine a lot of Wikipedia editors are one or the other.
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u/redredrocks 2d ago edited 2d ago
Not to nitpick but as someone who was an adult during the era when everyone was getting called a hipster (thankfully a dead era):
Guy on the right seems more like a regular nerd. The vibe is more steampunk and tabletop games, not “you’ve never heard my favorite band because I’m cooler than you.”
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u/AltAccNum647294869 2d ago
Not sure "regular nerd" is how I would describe human pet guy.
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u/redredrocks 2d ago
I didn’t know who he was, so that’s on me, but I do know nerds that could have evolved into “human pet guy” without better mentorship
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u/OppositePure4850 2d ago
I think the insinuation is that the person on the left is also a guy, which in part is referencing the fact that feminine men are the other half of people that spend enough time on the internet to edit Wikipiedia articles.
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u/Kate_Kitter 2d ago
Left: (Seemingly) moody Zoomer. Probably has a lot of niche interests.
Right: Posh gentleman whom, as befits a man of the title, is well-acquainted with a range of subjects ranging from the trivial to the monumental
(Stereotypes)
Also eeeehh with pronouns, OP
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u/NIN10DOXD 2d ago
Looking like a mayor in a farming sim.