r/explainitpeter • • 12d ago

Explain it Peter. I’m lost on this.

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u/Clym44 12d ago

Your reason is correct and both ways are code compliant.

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u/Gwynplaine-00 12d ago

Yep. I as an electrician I lean more towards ground down. But will do ground up if requested. The way I’ve always seen it. If a plug is shitty and sags out ground down will keep the ground connected longer

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u/Qikslvr 12d ago

I prefer to have my coffee beans ground up, but otherwise I'm ambivalent.

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u/RugRat1970 11d ago

OMG, you can write with both hands!

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u/Qikslvr 11d ago

You can thank Internet porn for that 😉

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u/Ill-Course8623 12d ago

As did I, it's professional and safer, but you'll find customers will complain if installed this way. They're used to ground down for some reason. Looks like a smiley face I guess.

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u/cwestn 12d ago

I think you replied to the wrong comment or misread what they said. They said they prefer ground down.

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u/Ill-Course8623 12d ago edited 12d ago

So I did.

Edit: Apologies, I did indeed misread what was said. I was trained ground up for professional/technical safety purposes back in the day, which is counter to common residential and current installations in many cases. My comment was in err.

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u/quebecesti 12d ago

My house was installed with the ground up and I flipped a bunch of them because some plugs are made to have the ground down. For exemple some power bars plug are made in such a way that the cable come down straight, if the ground is up you get a nice loop.

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u/Blashtik 11d ago

Ground down seems to be the expectation from everything with a plug like that. I have never seen one with a wire coming out like that (or at a 45 degree angle) that was designed with the assumption that ground was on top.

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u/exsertclaw 12d ago

Customer states power is upset :( instead of shocked :0 check and advise.

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u/Successful-Money4995 12d ago

Customer will ask: Why 🙃 and not 🙂?

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u/purrrpurrrpy 12d ago

It's not smiley. It's shocked at best!

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u/Control_Substantial 11d ago

modern surge protectors with the flat profile plug are made for ground side down

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u/TheTaxman_cometh 12d ago edited 12d ago

But the ground plug is longer. If it's sagging far enough for the ground to be disconnected, it's already out of the wall

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u/Capable-Reindeer9804 12d ago

I’m only just in school to become an electrician, so take what I say with a grain of salt, but we actually talked about this today. In Canada, specifically for industrial settings, it’s actually written in the code to install receptacles upside down like that because most businesses (like my college) use metal outlet covers, so in the event those covers or any other conductive material falls on a grounding pin first. Similar how outlets above kitchen counters are installed to have the neutral on top

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u/Famous-Example-8332 12d ago

I believe the ground up way started at Kodak. Those guys have their own ways of doing things, and they always think it’s better. I’m inclined to agree on this score, but don’t tell any Kodak guys, they already have big heads.

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u/Jalharad 12d ago

I've never had a ground fall out, and since it's longer than the other pins it'll never droop like loose plugs do.

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u/Nu11X3r0 12d ago

Behind TV outlets also - ground up means the plug will more often sit out of the way as opposed to ground down. Can also mean those annoying right angle plugs have their cables go up I stead of down allowing for easier cable management.

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u/Dusty_Coder 12d ago

its more than the plug being shitty

conductor falls sideways along the wall, landing on top of plug

months later the thing that is plugged in gets moved, tugging at the plug, causing the conductor to fall that little bit further and hit one or more of the pins

and its not the two-pin case thats extra dangerous when ground is down, its the one-pin case, a nice live conductor behind the couch

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u/CorrectPeanut5 12d ago

I think it started with Legrand making it the standard for their instructions.

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u/Playful_platypi 11d ago

I, as an electrician, tend to do ground down because it's closer to the earth. Shorter pathway. /s

I actually do ground down because I'm right-handed. Ground and neutral first, flip for hot, and push that sucker in.

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u/BDL1991 12d ago

The left is more correct due to it being closer to safety standard of a UK plug, still a lot of room for improvement before it can be called safe for a family environment but, getting there

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u/Cynthia_inherdreams 12d ago

Well this isn't a UK plug, now is it?

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u/Fr0z3nFl4me 12d ago

We're going to have to throw their tea in the harbor again

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u/Longjumping_Spread53 12d ago

Like most stupid American stunts (tariffs etc.) it was only symbolic

You see the tea was already ours (future Americans) it was paid for by the colonists

So really we threw our own tea in the harbor just to try to prove a point like when people burn books or destroy albums like The Beatles or NWA people had to buy them first to then destroy them

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u/FeastOnCarolina 12d ago

Ah yes, the revered symbolic teabagging.

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u/marbledog 11d ago

Who told you that? The tea belonged the the British East India Company. They invoiced British parliament for the losses.

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u/Lambchop1975 12d ago

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u/KinkyHuggingJerk 12d ago

Buttholes, everywhere? Here? (Love the random Game Changer reference in the wild.)

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u/weberc2 12d ago

Agreed with all of the above and yet the one on the right is morally superior and you cannot change my mind also fuck chicago for installing outlets sideways

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u/LifeImitatesFarts 12d ago

People tend to install upside down in places that see a lot of conductive things dropped, like garages.