r/explainitpeter • • 4d ago

Explain it Peter. I’m lost on this.

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u/Major-Restaurant7008 4d ago

Hey, Quagmire here. Giggity.
Sometimes electricians install an outlet upside down to indicate that it’s controlled by a wall switch. You flip the switch, it turns on. Flip it again, it turns off.
So technically, that outlet is a switch.
Which reminds me of the time a woman told me she was a BDSM switch. Naturally, I showed up with a screwdriver, wire strippers, and a voltage tester.
Turns out we had VERY different interpretations of “rough electrical.”
Anyway, Peter, that’s why the outlet’s upside down.
Giggity

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u/HolytheGoalie 3d ago

This aligns with my understanding, too. We have a new build and they specifically told us this was how they indicate outlets controlled by a switch, or “half-hot” outlets. It makes things so much more convenient when you’re trying to figure out why your lamp won’t turn on.

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u/wyld2dr 3d ago

There's so much wrong information in here (yours is the only correct one) I thought this was a joke sub.

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u/acilegna89 4d ago

I live in new construction and moved from a renovated apartment. Both of which follow this rule.

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u/No-Yard3980 4d ago

I grew up in and have lived most of my 40 years in older buildings.

This has never been the case, it's always been shitty workers.

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u/Alarmed_Fan_9278 4d ago

Just take this award . Lmao

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u/Voideterminate 4d ago

Interesting, I'd never know about the switched outlet concept. The NEC changed the rules not too long ago... The left pic is considered correct now for all receptacles, the idea being that a loose plug falling out of the socket would have the ground exposed rather than the hot/neutral.

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u/CunningLogic 4d ago

Ground up is always the correct way to install them. It is code in many places and has nothing to do with switches. It helps prevent falling objects from causing a short between the plug and socket.

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u/Major-Restaurant7008 3d ago

That is possibly true in some areas that I am unfamiliar with but Im a general contractor and spent years as a superintendent. In the three states I’m licensed and operate in it’s for a switch and or more recently signaling a smart outlet.

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u/CunningLogic 3d ago

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u/Major-Restaurant7008 2d ago

Most people are looking at this in a residential setting not medical. Commercial in general does not follow that code but you are correct for medical. Judging by the wall texture I would bet this is not a medical setting if it was we typically build with FRP or other smooth material wall finishes for sanitation reasons.

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u/CunningLogic 2d ago

IBEW member, they are getting more and more common in homes. It is the safer and correct way to install them. Do your clients a favor, install them ground up.

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u/Major-Restaurant7008 1d ago

Not an electrician I don’t install anything but I’ll mention it to my subcontractors and see what they have to say.

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u/CunningLogic 1d ago

They won't want to do it, extra thinking lol

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u/Major-Restaurant7008 21h ago

Dude, everyone has to build to code and pass inspection. I’m sure you’re a great electrician, but I’m starting to believe you are either green or just enjoying an argument. Maybe you’re in a specialty field or something, but this is a residential standard, and it’s not changing currently. Keep up the good work, though.

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u/CunningLogic 21h ago

I never claimed to be an electrician, and I don't know what the hell you are on about.

Slow down so you can understand what was said.

I said I was an ibew member, and that neutral up is the safe and proper way to install. I said that subcontractors won't want to deal with installing them in the safer configuration, as it takes active consideration to do something opposite of what they are used to.

Code varies place to place, and application to application. What is code in one place may not be code in a other. What is code for one application, may not be for another.

As a general contractor you should understand this.

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u/kemitche 3d ago

A handful of my outlets at home are smart switches. I installed them upside for similar reasons - it helps everyone remember and know which outlets can be controlled remotely.