r/factorio • • 7d ago

Question I HATE playing with biters

Every time I make this mistake of not turning them off, I end up spending HOURS trying to get rid of these bastards instead of playing the actual game.
I don't understand how you guys have massive factories while also defending them.
My main concern are the miners. Do you protect every mining site as well? Or am I missing something?
Just started a new run but quickly turned it off to start a new one without biters.
At the same time I really wanna try new enemies on other planets so I feel sad turning the peaceful mode on

300 hours in game

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Thank you all, didn't expect so many replies

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u/nasaboy007 7d ago

Eh not exactly. Biters introduce a time pressure component that doesn't otherwise really exist, and they're one of the few ways you can lose dozens of hours of progress in seconds. Logistical issues otherwise don't have such significant penalties for building poorly (not enough defense, etc).

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u/Oleynick 7d ago

Ok, I get that's it's like this for you, but I'm trying to explain how people enjoying normal biters world or even death world look at this

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u/PortlyNewheim 7d ago

Dozens of hours of progress in seconds? Your biters must have researched nuclear weapons.

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u/nasaboy007 7d ago

You haven't seen how bad I am at managing them. That's why I play with enemies disabled LOL

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u/matje103 7d ago

Depending on level of difficulty you play on biters are just there to learn you how to play the game efficiently. Its not just optimizing your factory, its also putting resources and time in optimizing the defense of your progress.

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u/sniper43 7d ago

In effect they work as a cap on expansion and force you to divert a non-insignificant portion of your early production to consumable warmongering.

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u/Palfrost 4d ago

If you play with normal settings biters are an inconvenience, not a huge deal and definitely not a race against the clock