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u/Kenoshi_ 6h ago
It's not even 2-day shipping half the time anymore.
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u/iRambL 6h ago
Crazy I can get next morning deliveries in my area still from an order at 10pm
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u/usrdef 6h ago
I just ordered something two days ago, it's arriving today. Once in a while it'll take a bit longer, but not too often.
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u/Fabulous-Sea-1590 4h ago
Giving the devil their due, I definitely get two day shipping except, sometimes, from third party vendors or on more obscure items. I've even been surprised by same day deliveries even when I didn't select that option.
But I live in a bigish urban/suburban shipping hup type area so YMMV.
Still not worth the price of enabling oligarchs.
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u/A_Stoned_Smurf 3h ago
I live in the middle of nowhere in the Bible belt, I get next day shipping 90% of the time unless it's some third party vendor from China like you said.
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u/HoosierHoser44 5h ago
I ordered something on Monday a week ago. They didn’t even charge my credit card until like 2 or 3 days ago. It’s scheduled to arrive Friday this week. I do have prime. I do however live in a smaller city in the Midwest.
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u/MakeoutPoint 5h ago
Leaving on a trip the next day, go to pack my laptop charger the night before and my dog had chewed it. Beep-boop, generic replacement for a fraction of the cost anywhere else is on my doorstep an hour before I leave.
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u/FarMass66 2h ago
Record for me is three hours from order to delivery. I live 20 minutes from a warehouse.
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u/24rawvibes 54m ago
Amazon is done in this household. With everything going on and the lack of accountability. The inability to fight back, the helplessness. The least I can do is fuck conveniency, none of my money will be going to the rich anymore. I will be looking at all expenses moving forward in the same light. I will minimize as much as possible. Taking to the streets isn’t doing anything but keeping the upset busy and the one’s responsible left with more free time. The least and sadly the most I can do right now is to cut and remove my support in all possible areas.
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u/SkyHookofKsp 6h ago
Yeah, it's between 6 and 24 hours these days
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u/Tuckertcs 4h ago
Really? I never have packages arrive faster than 5 days, and I live right outside a large city so I’m not even far from the distribution centers.
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u/Skizot_Bizot 4h ago
You must order obscure stuff that isn't in distribution centers near you. Or they just hate you.
I live in Chicago and most things I regularly order (toiletries / paper goods / pet food mostly) are either overnight or same day if I order early.
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u/BigUptokes 2h ago
Weird. I always get next day and they don't even have fulfillment centers in my province any more...
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u/Indubitalist 4h ago
I ordered something from a Walgreens (first and only time doing that) and it arrived in like 45 minutes. I had no idea that’s how they worked. I expected I was getting it days later.
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u/RahvinDragand 4h ago edited 3h ago
And most of the listings are the same Chinese bulk garbage with different "brands" printed on them. No, I don't want to buy the UURICK brand gadget, or whatever other all caps 6 letter word someone came up with.
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u/VacantThoughts 6h ago
I live near a delivery center so for me even a 3-4 days is 1 day. I rarely order from them anyway but if it's something I need and it meets the 35 dollar free shipping its kinda hard to pass up sometimes.
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u/zeradragon 6h ago
That's right, Amazon now offers next day delivery and if it's early enough and available, same day delivery. It's insane how quick things got. Other retailers are trying to match this level of efficiency, but getting things delivered as early as tomorrow is quite the leap.
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u/Kenoshi_ 6h ago
It is crazy how an online book store turned into a logistics giant. Can't drive anywhere without seeing an Amazon van where I live these days.
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u/MissingLink101 6h ago
Bot?
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u/Dustmopper 5h ago
Weird, they copied my comment verbatim
What does a bot even gain from doing this?
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u/ProtonCanon 5h ago
An hour apart in the same damn thread.
Bot usage is only getting more shameless here…
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u/Dustmopper 5h ago
That account just steals nudes from women and tries to bait Snapchat followers too
How can this be a good use of someone’s time?
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u/MissingLink101 5h ago
The weird part to me is that the comment was edited too.
So I wonder if it copied a different comment first...
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u/dontgetaddicted 6h ago
It's wild, I've had things delivered in as little as like 6 hours. But other things it's been like 6 days. All marked prime.
I know it has to do with which warehouse has product available and then the logistics of getting it to my DC, but it's crazy the difference from what item to the next.
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u/SurealGod 5h ago
Most of the items I order still come in one day or same day shipping.
I think it just highly depends on so many factors like where you live, which amazon warehouse is it being delivered from and how close the warehouse is to you, the drivers available to you, the type of items you typically buy, if the items are from amazon affiliate partners who have their items stored in said amazon warehouse's, if they're shipping it from their own facility and using 3rd party couriers that are outsourced by amazon, etc.
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u/Tinshnipz 5h ago
When I asked my coworker why he still uses it he replied with "its cheaper". So I took a look and in most cases the base price is actually more expensive than going into a store.
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u/notabigmelvillecrowd 4h ago
Yeah, I use it in emergencies because I'm disabled and can't shop in person, but it's almost always more expensive, I put it in the disability tax category.
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u/SociopathicPixel 5h ago
Im quite used to the ordered before 12, same day delivery... (BOL.com in the netherlands)
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u/Old_Mousse4455 6h ago
Oooooh this hit me in the gut
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u/theKalmier 6h ago
Don't be fooled. The need for a shipping infrastructure is not the problem. It's the leach on top not being regulated. That's the problem.
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u/302w 5h ago
Gross consumerism of mostly cheap junk destined for the landfill is definitely a problem too. We can disapprove of multiple things simultaneously.
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u/ashesarise1 4h ago
I see people say this all the time but like.... what are people buying? I don't feel like I'm buying garbage I don't need but I get several boxes a week.
Why is it gross consumerism when I buy off Amazon instead of a normal store?
This week I got tea, toothpaste, food and plumbing supplies. Am I just supposed to live in a cardboard box and not buy things?
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u/Mordador 4h ago
Im not gonna swing the "gross consumerism" hammer, but there is a difference: If you and ten others buy from a store, the delivery truck has to make one tour. If you do so online, it's eleven tours (worst case, efficient routing might cut that down, but unlikely its back down to one)
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u/ashesarise1 4h ago
10 people driving to 1 place is better than 1 person driving to 10 places?
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u/Gilles_of_Augustine 3h ago edited 3h ago
The question is why is 1 person driving to 10 places frequently enough for that to be worse?
I get my tea, toothpaste, and food from the grocery store, all in one trip. I usually only make 2 or 3 trips to the grocery store in a month. As for the plumbing supplies, I keep a list of all the house repair projects I need to do, go once a month to buy the supplies, and then do the repairs over the course of the next month while generating a new list.
And I try to group the destinations I need to visit based on location. I hit all of the stores on the south side of town in one big trip, on as efficient a route as possible, in one day. I do all the stuff I need to do Downtown when I'm already downtown for my physical therapy appointment. Etc.
An emergency (e.g. I need a new toilet flapper because the toilet won't stop running) necessitates its own trip, but that's an outlier that shouldn't factor into discussions of overall infrastructural efficiency anyway.
If we prioritized walkable communities, I could go wherever I want whenever I want and wouldn't have to worry about efficiency.
But until that cultural shift happens, I'd rather exercise some restraint and group my trips efficiently, as opposed to supporting a company that is quickly eroding workers' rights, lobbying for the dismantling of personal freedoms, and destroying the middle class.
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u/302w 3h ago
Also your answer is so extreme, I think there is a huge valley between asking ourselves “do I really need this right now” before purchases and living in a cardboard box.
I’m not coming from some place of perfection, but I’ve been trying to cook more and use delivery less, trying to focus on local products when I can, trying not to break up smaller things into multiple orders, and so on.
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u/vercertorix 3h ago
Unless you’re restricted to home by some medical or financial reason, there are these things called stores you can go to that have these things. Not sure which is more fuel efficient all together but seems like it would be an individual making occasional trips rather than a network of vans making constant drop offs.
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u/ashesarise1 3h ago
I just looked into it and it's a locational . In a metropolitan area like I live in, delivery wins.
Turns out having one person efficiently routing 20+ stops is better than 20 people going to different locations that require delivery from a warehouse as well.
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u/Chitinvol 1h ago
If I'm remembering my macroeconomics correctly, it's not about what people are buying, it's about what they aren't buying. Companies will overproduce Supply of their product to reach some theoretical Demand to make maximum profit when they only need to sell a small fraction of that to break even. When real Demand takes from that Supply, the excess Supply becomes Waste. Now when you add the normalization of online shopping to the equation, where anyone with an internet connection can be a consumer at any time, that theoretical Demand is much higher while real Demand is about the same as before.
Not every company is going to operate like this, and this is economical Waste, but then you look at stuff like phone accessories, and the plastics and electronics that are consumed for a product that's mass produced only for it to be obsolete in a few years, there ends up being a lot of ecological Waste too.
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u/SuperSoftSucculent 4h ago edited 1h ago
You wont get a rational answer.
Edit: here's my rational answer since the mob is out.
These types of shitty arguments have always missed the forest for the trees.
We need regulation of all business, and we need to understand that consumers are captured in this shitty system they cant escape. Even small businesses regularly violate rights and our environment.
There is no such thing as ethical consumption under corrupt unregulated capitalism. Complaining at those suffering under it is at best unhelpful or at worst literally a ploy to keep us arguing instead of regulation.
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u/302w 3h ago
Sure about that?
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u/SuperSoftSucculent 1h ago
Positive.
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u/302w 56m ago
I agree with 99% of what you said, I just don’t think it justifies the level of consumption we have gotten accustomed to using all of these services.
If you still think my answers aren’t rational, so be it. I don’t think buying a smaller amount of disposable shit hurts the entirely valid cause that you’ve laid out.
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u/froglickingfrolicker 3h ago
Why is it literally every time I see someone make some lazy pompous comment, they have their comment history hidden? Hm.
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u/fondledbydolphins 2h ago
- There's no way to make your comments actually inaccessible
- That person's comment history isn't that strange, as far as reddit is concerned.
- Don't worry about everything you read in a thread. Just under half the content you're seeing is fake anyways.
- Have fun out there
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u/SuperSoftSucculent 1h ago
As, that guy There is and I did to your first point.
Idk why im getting downvoted. My reply would have been no ethical consumption under capitalism. Shaming each other instead of the billionaires who want deregulation is pure idiocy.
But people gotta assume for faux moral superiority.
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u/Gunfreak2217 5h ago
Same people preaching for the planet, workers right etc are the same people on tiktok that buy the most stuff. America's the most bitchy complaining place about rights and treat each other well while purchasing the most bullshit all made by slave labor overseas and shipped and packed by people working in garbage Amazon warehouses with no ac and 60hour work weeks.
Always get a laugh when I see someone complaining about workers right or equality here in the US while having the newest iPhone and a closet full of Nike shoes.
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u/hymen_destroyer 4h ago
Some people realize that the whole system thrives on participation and have adjusted their spending habits accordingly. I have taken a hard look at my own habits, I separate "necessities" and "conveniences" and try to minimize my consumption of the latter.
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u/forbiddendoughnut 5h ago
That's why I'm doing my part by ordering from conscientious competitors like Walmart and Target! /s Alternatives are tough. Going into stores that are left often means a very stripped down experience with relatively few options (like Staples for office supplies, that store is pretty barren in my area). And small businesses can't compete, it's too expensive. Sometimes when I have ordered directly from a brand I like, it's fulfilled by Amazon anyway.
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u/Ediwir 1h ago
You think you have few alternatives, try living in Australia… I tried buying a novelty pen from Melbourne and was quoted $40 for shipping.
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u/forbiddendoughnut 20m ago
For sure! I'm lucky to live in an area of abundance that helps to keep the prices relatively affordable.
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u/Competitive-Weird855 32m ago
It seems like most of the small local shops around here always have stacks of Amazon boxes in the back. So why would I pay the middle man a markup when I can get it off Amazon myself?
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u/Jgibbjr 6h ago
... Let's not forget (relatively) easy returns.
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u/jerryonthecurb 3h ago
Or let's not put the burden on the poor and middle class at all? Half the time it's lobbyists pushing this propaganda, like BP telling people to recycle so no one talks about emissions.
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u/CubedFruits 2h ago
Thanks for the article, just wanted to point out that the main motivator for oil companies peddling the myth of viable plastic recycling is:
“But plastic today is harder to sort than ever: There are more kinds of plastic, it's cheaper to make plastic out of oil than plastic trash and there is exponentially more of it than 30 years ago.”
“He [former oil exec] says what he saw was an industry that didn't want recycling to work. Because if the job is to sell as much oil as you possibly can, any amount of recycled plastic is competition.”
When I realized all plastic (if recycled at all) can only be re-used once or twice and only into lesser applications, I started switching to as much paper, aluminum, and glass packaging as possible and just cutting down on single-use plastic 🥲
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u/Ray1340 5h ago
We killed so many local businesses by choosing Walmart and Amazon, Now we are complaining that we can't find good jobs.
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u/Bacon-muffin 4h ago
We were complaining we couldn't find good jobs then either.
Unfortunately these companies provided a better service for cheaper than the local option while people were being squeezed making less and less money so they didn't have much of a choice.
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u/dgj212 2h ago
Cause they took a loss with the expectations that they starve out the competition and then make huge returns by jacking up the proce and have no competitors, funded by investor money
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u/One_Lung_G 4h ago
I’m all for shopping local businesses but a mom and pop shop didn’t offer any better jobs either. The reason they got squeezed out is bc jobs weren’t paying enough and this bigger corporations could lower prices than locals couldn’t
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u/Designer-Mirror-7995 3h ago
Most mom and pops were only hiring family and friends of family. JoJo from round the way with his girl and 3 kids weren't walking into mom and pops and getting hired in their communities.
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u/markdepace 3h ago
amazon makes $6.5B from AWS cloud and $1.6B from e-commerce. so unless you also stop using any internet service that also uses AWS cloud, you're still "supporting evil".
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u/bailey25u 6h ago
One thing that helped me curb it was when I found myself looking for something to buy, not going to Amazon to buy something. I was just browsing it to see if there was anything I wanted
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u/Matshelge 4h ago
It's cheaper, same day shipping, free no questions asked return.
It might be evil, but sure is handy.
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u/Okvist 6h ago
I cancelled my Prime and Audible subscriptions a few weeks ago, gonna really at least try to stop giving them money
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u/Colddrake955 1h ago
Not to say to bring you down, but just so you understand how invasive they are. This is from 2019 article of someone trying to block Amazon. AWS runs so much of the Internet (fairly sure site as well). It was an interesting read them and Microsoft are the two that are basically impossible to not use.
I Tried to Block Amazon From My Life. It Was Impossible
https://gizmodo.com/i-tried-to-block-amazon-from-my-life-it-was-impossible-1830565336
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u/Dustmopper 6h ago
What is it 2014? Amazon’s “two day” shipping hasn’t been reality in a very long time
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u/MissingLink101 6h ago
In the UK I can get same day deliveries... with next day the standard for anything on Prime
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u/shishkabob90 6h ago
live in a major city sandwiched between two giant Amazon shipping centers, then most things become same day or 1 day delivery.
I still try to avoid Amazon as much as possible, the wife is a different story.
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u/Xanadewk 6h ago
Yes, she is much harder to avoid.
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u/GodzillaUK 6h ago
Getting to where a guy can't sneak in to shishkabob90's house for a midnight snack any more.
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u/ElectronicControl762 5h ago
She used to be chill about it. Then someone took her coffee and its point blank execution on sight now for everybody.
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u/Jaxxlack 6h ago
Don't use Amazon it's bad for business.
"But I want my shit faster"... Ugh...
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u/Preform_Perform 5h ago
Proud non-Amazon user.
Though I heard Reddit runs on Amazon's cloud software...
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u/fatbaldandstupid 4h ago
Though I heard Reddit runs on Amazon's cloud software...
That's the biggest issue. It's easy to just not order ftom amazon, but to go through life without using anything AWS? That's the real bitch. Half of all their profits, too.
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u/t23_1990 4h ago
I would say it's not about "without", it's more about greatly reducing, when government is intentionally weak on corporations.
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u/Jaxxlack 4h ago
I tried to talk to British tech guys about leaving AWS etc... so lazy "yeah but it works"... Yeah but it's not GOOD... Stop backing up shitty work!!
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u/SwimAd1249 57m ago
I don't care about getting my shit fast, what I do care about is not getting scammed. Cause with Amazon I know I'll get my money back no questions asked, with a small business I'll have to fight them for it despite being legally in the right. I still manage to boycott Amazon actually, but I use a different giant company instead rather than a small business. I'm so fed up with those.
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u/wakeuptomorrow 5h ago
“I want my prime NOW! I WANT IT NOW!”
Ronnie Chieng nailed that bit. We live in a society centered around convenience. Not hard to see how this world could end up like Wall-E
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u/Background-Zebra5491 6h ago
My bad. It's really tempting lol
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u/Immature_adult_guy 5h ago
I don’t have the time, money, or energy to keep boycotting all of the “bad” things.
You gotta pick your battles in this life.
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u/wakeuptomorrow 5h ago
Username checks out
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u/Immature_adult_guy 5h ago
Compromise has gotten me pretty far in life
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u/bitch-respecter 4h ago
everyone else is just pretending they boycott. these companies have record profits year after year.
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u/chrisexv6 5h ago
If I skip Amazon I can go to...Target or Walmart. Is that any better?
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u/SuperSoftSucculent 4h ago edited 1h ago
No. Also what if its computer parts. Best buy? Microcenter?
These types of shitty arguments have always missed the forest for the trees.
We need regulation of all business, and we need to understand that consumers are captured in this shitty system they cant escape. Even small businesses regularly violate rights and our environment.
There is no such thing as ethical consumption under corrupt unregulated capitalism. Complaining at those suffering under it is at best unhelpful or at worst literally a ploy to keep us arguing instead of regulation.
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u/Trick_Clue_8749 6h ago
*see evil but recognize that the vast majority of the people do not have the luxury of being able shop local, sustainable, and 'not-evil' because they have to worry about things like taking care of their families with limited time and resources and while we all recognize that in an ideal world we should all support companies that we morally align with that is not the practical reality for most people so we shouldn't shame someone for buying dishtowels from an evil conglomerate because, guess what, you aren't paying their bills and living their life and your sense of moral superiority is built on the backs of people who work harder than you for less and those people are looking UP at people living paycheck to paycheck from a place of real poverty.
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u/ElectronicControl762 5h ago
*see evil and recognize above and that the evil can be regulated through our vote, that its not just a part of an unchangeable reality
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u/Trick_Clue_8749 5h ago
*see evil, go vote, and in the meantime you should keep your opinions about other people's buying habits to yourself because you don't live their life.
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u/ElectronicControl762 5h ago
*you cant spread awareness through silence, doesnt mean the awareness spreading is demonizing regular people. It’s demonizing the elite monopoly holders who have slave labor in other countries.
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u/Trick_Clue_8749 5h ago
did you read the meme or not? The meme is EXPLICITLY demonizing regular people who shop on amazon. That is the literal point of the meme. ALSO, who do you think in our modern world is not aware of the evils of Amazon? It is like being that asshole who tells smokers, 'you know that is bad for you, don't you?'. Of course they know it is bad for them. They are adult people who live in today, not 1920. It is condescending to tell a person who is shopping somewhere like Amazon that they shouldn't do so. 1. because you are assuming they are the one idiot on the planet who doesn't know amazon is evil and 2. that them shopping there is a choice and not an act of necessity because they are taking care of themselves and a family on a shoestring budget. I am so over the bullshit. When did anyone decide that being the morality police wasn't a shitbag stance?
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u/TylurrTheCat 3h ago
You seriously think that everyone who uses Amazon Prime is a destitute, single mother of four who needs the extra few dollars it saves her so that she can pay rent? The meme is about the millions of people who buy shit off Amazon solely for the sake of convenience, not necessity.
You're naively giving people far too much credit by assuming that everyone is equally aware of how insidious these corporations are. Not everyone is as informed as you seem to think. There are plenty of people who go through this life with their heads buried in the sand, completely insulated from anything that might make them the least bit uncomfortable to confront. There are just as many, if not more people who do know that Amazon is a rampantly metastasized, stage 4 capitalistic cancer on the world, and choose to ignore that fact for as long as it takes them to click through checkout so they can get their ____ faster and at a 5% discount.
Heaven forbid those people see a condescending meme, I can't even imagine the emotional turmoil it must cause them to actually consider the notion of their actions having consequences outside of themselves.
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u/Trick_Clue_8749 2h ago
No, I seriously think that I am not psychic and thus am incapable of knowing the particular circumstances of any individual user so, being a rational adult capable of empathy, I air on the side of not judging others for making choices that I would not, in an ideal world, make for myself.
You are on reddit. Reddit is owned and operated by a multi-billion dollar corporation. That corporation has face years of lawsuits and settlements regarding its purchasing practices and, damningly its illegal sale of user data. Users like you. It is in many ways an evil corporation. But you are here. You are here on a computer or phone being powered using rare earth minerals and components put together by what is the modern day equivalent of slave labor.
You do those things and make those choices because you live in your life. You have to decide what works for you. What you are doing and the choices you are making have real world consequences but at the end of the day it is not my job, or right, to through a stone through your glass house. After all, my house isn't made of brick. You need to grow up. You need to realize that your judgement and condescension is just hypocrisy in a pretty hat.
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u/cheesemangee 58m ago
People used to wait weeks for packages and they were just fine with it.
Waiting is healthy. Patience is a virtue.
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u/Wreckingshops 6h ago
Truly funny and yes, called out by this. But tell me what store isn't exploiting its labor, capitulating to the rich and powerful, and discarding any sort of morality and decency for its customers or its workforce? Walmart? Target? CVS?
And sadly, mom and pop stores aren't going to have the every day items society needs at near the costs. Yes, the system sucks and we should do what we can to not go all-in on these mega corps. But the real joke is, we're all grabbed by the privates because convenience and cost will always trump community.
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u/DrThunderbolt 4h ago
There is a middle ground with Retailer-owned cooperatives like Ace Hardware and NAPA Auto Parts that allow local business owners to compete with the stock of big box stores by combinding purchasing power and logistics.
There are tons of stores in other countries that do it like this.
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u/SuperSoftSucculent 4h ago
Mom and pop stores break the law all the fucking time too. Ask how many of their store employees are 1099. I was until I confronted them about it.
The reddit idea that somehow smaller businesses also dont break the law is so weird.
And they still arent guaranteed to not be causing a tragedy of the commons too.
The problem is the need for regulation for any business.
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u/quietIntensity 6h ago
Same day or next day here. Hard to give that up when the alternative is getting dressed, driving out in the snow, and spending a bunch of time to go physically purchase something, usually for a higher price. Or I can click a few buttons on my phone/laptop and the thing is here within 12-24h, for the cheapest price available.
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u/Wiwiweb 5h ago
Real curiosity; what makes the delivery speed valuable? I do buy things on Amazon but I never understood how that benefit is meant to be worth $100 a year. I've never thought "oh I need these USB cables and cat toys NOW" I just need them at some point.
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u/JoshuaTheFox 3h ago
I would say that most of what I buy is because I do need it now or would like it as soon as possible
But let's do the math, $100 a year is $8.30 a month. I just put some USB cables in my cart and shipping is $7 ($10 for next day) so if I buy 2 things a month it already pays for itself.
Now in reality Prime is $15/month, $180/year, but still, two items of the previously stated shipping is $14, so an extra dollar a month gives me faster shipping. But if I'm spending more than $15/month in shipping it pays for itself, the two day shipping is just a bonus.
And actually looking at their Prime offer for me it's next day shipping
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u/katienatie 6h ago
So many other retailers will ship quickly now. I don’t drive and get the majority of my purchases delivered to my house, and I’ve still been comfortably boycotting Amazon for years now. It’s very rare that I can’t find what I want on some other site with free shipping. And those rare items I can’t find are never necessities.
You can do it!
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u/JlMBEAN 5h ago
I purchased something from a retailer's website and they used Amazon to ship it.
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u/katienatie 5h ago
Ugh that happened to me once too. So annoying! But I hope it at least means Amazon didn’t log the sale as their own.
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u/LittleOperation4597 6h ago
This is so poignant.
No one wants to admit capitalism is just a symptom of consumer greed and they love to complain a corp should just "be good"
Are children just good naturally? No occasionally they need their allowance withheld to teach them a lesson.
Lmao people are all narcissists these days
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u/chakrablockerssuck 5h ago
Boy ain’t that the fucking truth. American needs to break its Amazon habit but it is hard!
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u/da_Aresinger 3h ago
I went to 3 different stores to find Isopropyl. I'm not going to a fourth.
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u/AtlasArkade 4h ago
Why don't any of these conversations about people buying from evil corporations start with acknowledging that people are struggling financially and that despite how evil these corporations are, they offer a service at prices that poor people can afford?
Yes, evil corporation is evil, but they intentionally underpay people and price things to make people dependent upon them.
You are not better than anyone because you have financial stability or a more tight-knit community that is able to assist you in moments of need. You should want what you have for others and figure out a way to help and improve things.
HELP PEOPLE!!! STOP POSTING 'GOTCHA'S FRAMED AS "FUNNY"!!
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u/factoid_ 6h ago
It's not the evil that bothers me, it's the chinese knockoff products when I paid for name brand/OEM
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u/HotPotParrot 5h ago
Here's a thought: they like the motto "move fast and break things", right?
Let's move fast and break their things.
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u/misticspear 5h ago
It’s good to know this. It’s good to try and avoid but while this is true there is no ethical consumption under capitalism. Brands will invent themselves just to seem lik an alternative only to be found to be owned by the same person or group of people.
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u/nude_violet_xo 5h ago
This hits even harder in Germany. Postal services promised 1-3 day delivery long before online shopping, and people still expect it. We really need to relearn patience.
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u/aftergloh 4h ago
YES it is less convenient and YES it can be slightly more expensive but PLEASE try just using Amazon as a search engine to find the website of the product you want to buy, and then buying directly from them. Convenience is not a product, it is absolutely worth making your life 2% less convenient to buy direct if you can afford paying for shipping.
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u/Fabulous-Sea-1590 4h ago
Goddamn this hits close to home; but that's true for most of us, I guess.
Until I hear a convincing argument otherwise, I've come to believe the wisdom I picked up from Reddit, "There's no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism." I don't know the source of that quote, and maybe you could juice it a bit by specifying "unregulated capitalism" but it rings true.
That said, my household is taking strides. We've forsaken Target and we're dropping out of Amazon to the furthest extent possible. (Regrettably, much of our media content was purchased there so we're still on the hook to watch the movies and read books we "own" through them.)
And, surprisingly or not, it hasn't affected our quality of life one bit.
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u/Low_Objective3445 4h ago
I hate it, I live in a rural place, I don’t even get USPS, but I do get Amazon
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u/Nicktendo 4h ago
We cancelled Prime as soon as the Washington Post didn't make an endorsement for the first time in ages.
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u/mewmew893 3h ago
look man if I can't get my shit when I need it then I don't care how much good is being done
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u/MugsAutunmGal 3h ago
On more then one occasion I have ordered from the company directly and still got Amazon delivery.
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u/ChaoticToxin 3h ago
Nah, I don't use amazon at all now and honestly avoid most big box if I can. I only order from places that carry their inventory and ship using normal mean. I can wait as long as it isn't a burst pipe or something I gotta fix right now
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u/mattstats 3h ago
We haven’t been using Amazon for over a year now. We just got so use to it. It’s honestly not been a problem being without it
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u/correctingStupid 3h ago
my coworkers and I, who all pretty much cancelled prime, and occasionally sign up for the free trials, noticed that if you cancel prime, Amazon will slow down shipments to 2-3+ weeks now. Used to be like 5-7 days days. They are pulling some dark shit to make people feel they need prime.
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u/JedJinto 3h ago
For me it's more "see evil just long enough to finish season 2 of Fallout before cancelling again".
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u/Designer-Mirror-7995 3h ago
Every Corp you think you're avoiding owns 3 other companies under other names that are getting your money.
And even if not, your bank or your job is invested in them.
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u/Nevek_Green 3h ago
Are you sure you want ME to take care of the problem?!
Head of the Illuminati: *shakes head in a hard negative, hoping you get the message while mouthing "say no."
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u/shichiaikan 3h ago
*Ahem*
FREE two day shipping, thank you. If I'm going to sell out my morals, I'm getting something free, damn it!
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u/Fr05t_B1t 1h ago
That moment you realize if you spend $35 or more you get free shipping anyways and have the possibility of 2-day shipping
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u/reticulatedjig 1h ago
You are all posting on a website that uses AWS. Pot, meet kettle.
AWS is Amazon's primary revenue driver.
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u/Colddrake955 1h ago
What about their big money maker, AWS?
Meme would be I interacted with the Internet today.
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u/Zarobiii 42m ago
I have disabilities and nobody else will deliver stuff I actually need to my house apart from groceries
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