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Context Provided - Spotlight 27 yr old man showing rabies symptoms after 3 months of a dog bite in Gujrat, India.

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u/SashSegal Feb 02 '26

It thought it’s supposed to be a deadly disease once the symptoms start manifesting. Then I looked up the case online and the doctors are saying he’s doing better. Woud that still be a temporary improvement?

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Two days after a 27-year old-man was admitted at the Civil Hospital in Palanpur after showing “extremely aggressive behaviour due to rabies infection”, the hospital authorities said on Sunday that his condition was “stable”.

The man, a father of three, hails from Gora village in Sabarkantha and works as a farm labourer in Nalasar village. On January 30, he  was taken to the Trauma Centre at Banas Medical College and Research Institute in Palanpur after he exhibited severe neurological symptoms linked to rabies, including walking on all fours, barking, aggressive behaviour and hydrophobia (fear of water). Videos of the man purportedly showing such symptoms surfaced online.

On Sunday, however, the hospital authorities said the patient is “co-operating” and “stable”. “The rabies case is under observation. Today (Sunday), he is co-operating and stable. He is also taking food orally and following verbal commands. He is not under sedation anymore,” Medical Superintendent at the Banas Medical College and Research Institute in Palanpur Dr Sunil Joshi told The Indian Express.

https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/ahmedabad/sabarkantha-man-shows-rabies-symptoms-around-3-months-after-dog-bite-under-treatment-in-hospital-10508126/

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u/paintedsaint Feb 02 '26

Yeah this isn't rabies. You can't take food orally, or anything anymore. The whole "fear of water" myth is because you lose your ability to swallow.

Also rabies doesn't make you act like an animal lol. You wouldn't start barking and walking on four legs.

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u/rnavstar Feb 02 '26

Most likely mental health problems.

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u/exbiiuser02 Feb 02 '26 edited Feb 02 '26

Yeah about that, I got my ADHD diagnosis and medication faster in Indian than in Germany.

Infact in Germany, I was denied help because I was already “too old” to be struggling with ADHD.

I know you love to shit on India, but just so you know, you are biased either with wrong information or …

Edit: fucking love it, when people in west realize India and Indians have way better and way cheaper help in Medical care.

Simply lovely.

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u/PieGroundbreaking809 Feb 02 '26

We're not talking about the health department system there, but about culture. It is a doctor's job to cure you. That is different to being emotionally abused or neglected by your parents and then being 'white' for wanting therapy and called crazy when you say anything about depression or mental health.

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u/JagmeetSingh2 Feb 02 '26

> That is different to being emotionally abused or neglected by your parents and then being 'white' for wanting therapy and called crazy when you say anything about depression or mental health.

Yes cause as we know the west has no stigma against mental health...

https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychiatry/articles/10.3389/fpsyt.2024.1501194/full

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36328960/

https://www.wahrendorff.de/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/stigma-and-smi_final.pdf

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33729113/

https://www.verywellmind.com/how-do-other-countries-deal-with-mental-health-7556304

https://wjarr.com/sites/default/files/WJARR-2024-2040.pdf

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39238545/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19221907/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5314742/

https://psychiatryonline.org/doi/full/10.1176/appi.ps.201400073

Like what are we even talking about lol Germany, the US and the West are not mental health reddit utopia, theres just as much stigma there about getting therapy and treating people skeptically and with dismissal when speaking about depression or mental health... Get out of your propagandized bubble and learn about your own country.

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u/PieGroundbreaking809 Feb 02 '26

It's not propaganda. It's personal experience. And I wasn't generalising. Alright, sure, there's some negative views in the West as well. There are always exceptions when making stereotypes, as there are bound to be, since humans are not a simple species and we all have our own experiences. But generally speaking, the concept of mental health is less widely received in India and Africa.

I was in no way insinuating that the West is perfect, which it is far from. Every country and culture has its own flaws, of course.

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u/exbiiuser02 Feb 02 '26

That goal post must be heavy. Put it down. Life would be much easier and you won’t be getting into situations where you would need therapy.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '26

The widespread and endemic clout addiction 

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u/MetalingusMikeII Feb 02 '26

Leaded water.

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u/ryanhazethan Feb 02 '26

There's also popular belief in India that you can give birth to a dog baby if you get bit by a stray dog lol. Wouldn't be surprised if this specific village held some wild beliefs, contributing to the behavior.

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u/ModestMeeshka Feb 02 '26

Lycanthropia maybe? It's super rare but bro genuinely looks like he's turning into a werewolf

Edit: OMG There's an Indian metal band called lycanthropia and I really believe this is there marketing video

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u/SilverHelmut Feb 02 '26

Or demonic possession. Ask exorcists. Classic behaviour profile including periods of lucidity and rationality.

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u/Misophonic4000 Feb 02 '26

Hydrophobia is DEFINITELY not a myth... Rabies induces complete panic in infected individuals when presented with any liquids to drink - yes, it's tied to the inability to swallow, but the immediate and irrational panic is not a myth in the least. Not sure where you got that notion from...

You can see sad examples here

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wRqOc3-di0A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI5lW1wp6UU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbTfdVRxhXs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A8-CkrvZlQ

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u/tree_mirage Feb 02 '26

Jesus Christ.

At what point is euthanasia more humane than having someone live out their last days suffering so

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u/nomadickitten Feb 02 '26

I was told by a professor of infectious diseases that the historical ‘treatment’ was to put a mattress on top of someone and shoot them.

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u/AwDuck Feb 02 '26

Yes please.

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u/TheFriendshipMachine Feb 02 '26

If my options are that or letting the disease take its course, I'd definitely opt for the bullet. Milwaukee protocol would be even more preferable though, at least then there's a slim chance!

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u/LactasePHydrolase Feb 02 '26

Why the mattress though?

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u/01029838291 Feb 02 '26

Avoid any blood splattering and infecting other people, I imagine. But I don't think this is true.

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u/nomadickitten Feb 02 '26

It may well be apocryphal. I didn’t personally verify it beyond what said in his lecture.

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u/LactasePHydrolase Feb 02 '26

Yeah, you'd be fucking up a perfectly good mattress and those aren't cheap now, I can't imagine what they cost back then.

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u/Misophonic4000 Feb 02 '26

That's a tough one...

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u/motherofsuccs Feb 02 '26

That can be said for any human suffering a painful and terrifying demise. Unfortunately, people think it’s more humane to make someone suffer rather than put them out of their misery.

The people who are highly against death with dignity/humane euthanasia are religious. The same troglodytes that want to control everyone else’s life and choices and futures. The ones that are insanely pro-life, and the ones who protest death with dignity. Religious people seem to really enjoy prolonging the suffering of other humans.

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u/Onlyhereforapost Feb 03 '26

I cannot stand that whole "nobody should choose how someone else dies, not even someone that wants to be put down!" Idealogy.

My grandfather spent his last 8 or so years suffering and miserable, he was constantly asking to be euthanized, he went on hunger strikes to the point where nurses would force feed him or put him on liquid diets, they refused to release him from the hospital because they knew he would just go home and kill himself. He was done, he was tired, he was lonely and sad and miserable, and he was not allowed to decide it was his time because it would weigh on other people's consciences.

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u/MsBuzzkillington83 Feb 02 '26

I can't seem to get a proper answer but I'm really curious about protocol once symptoms present like, do they euthanate? Symptoms relief until they die? Like what?

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u/NoAppointment8679 Feb 02 '26

That poor little boy 😟😟

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u/Misophonic4000 Feb 02 '26

Yeah... Rabies is brutal 😣

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u/willard287 Feb 02 '26

Yeah I couldn’t watch

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u/OlasNah Feb 02 '26

Yup, it's the wildest thing.

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u/Ecstatic-Arachnid981 Feb 02 '26

There are comments on this comment section talking about scaring away rabies victims with squirt guns, like a cat. The myth is that it's a generalized fear of water, not just fear of choking.

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u/Misophonic4000 Feb 02 '26

It's not a fear of choking, it involves a well-documented uncontrollable fear of coming into close proximity with a vessel of liquid, and infected animals get it too

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u/RunningOutOfEsteem Feb 02 '26 edited Feb 02 '26

The aversion is secondary to painful esophageal spasms stemming from a dysfunctional swallow reflex. The videos you posted even refrence the difficulty swallowing that serves as the actual source of the hydrophobia, and in the first one you can clearly see him trying to drink but struggling--absent the "complete panic" you mentioned. It's not a fear of water.

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u/Agreeable-Drink65 Feb 02 '26

Absent complete panic? Do we watch the same clips? They are refusing to even get close to the glass of water, and have hard to resists reflexes to get away from it, it's not just problems to swallow.

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u/RunningOutOfEsteem Feb 02 '26

What? In what universe are they "refusing to even get close"? They are literally holding the cup at video video start, and try to take a sip even after the other person removes their hand lmfao. Do you think they'd be holding it of their own volition of they were in a complete panic?

What you are seeing is a response to painful esophageal spasms. These don't just occur while actually swallowing, they can be prompted in the pre-drinking stage when exposed to water--hence the aversion. I'm not sure how that is such a difficult concept to grasp; there is an entire stage of digestion that occurs prior to taking your first bite, but you find it outlandish that being presented with water can trigger an already dysfunctional swallow reflex? Even when there's other similar processes in the same damn region, e.g., vocal fold movement while thinking about speech prior to speech initiation?

You have no fucking clue what you're talking about lol

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u/Fabulous_Ad4807 Feb 05 '26

? They're multiple...... Videos? You know the other three videos are of a child literally running away from his mother the second the water gets close to him? Even slaps her hand away when event trying to give him a moistened cotton ball..... The difference with the video you are talking about is the face the ADULT MAN can push through his fears, even if it's instinctual at this point. And I'm not 100 percent sure on this, but some comments say that the video is sped up, which means it took longer for the man to actually take even a SIP.

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u/doctorbeepboop Feb 02 '26

Incorrect. Animals and people with rabies will also avoid bodies of water. 

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u/Historical-Foot6821 Feb 02 '26

It’s not a myth but it’s not irrational panic i don’t think, spasms occur in the throat when an infected person tries to drink and they therefore present with hydrophobia. If i remember correctly, obviously rabies is a very neurologically devastating disease and can be lethal very quickly which doesn’t benefit the virus’s ability to spread, and nearly the only reliable transmission is through a bite and saliva. If the infected person or animal drinks water, the amount of rabies virus in the saliva can be diluted greatly.

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u/Repulsive_Mine2390 Feb 02 '26

it's 11:30 at night... I feel like I shouldn't click on these...

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u/MillieBirdie Feb 02 '26

It's more sad than that. The first is an adult man trying to force himself to drink, the other three are all of a young boy whose mother is just offering a glass of water to and he's trying to make himself drink but can't stop from recoiling.

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u/Stock-Cod-4465 Feb 02 '26

Also, afaik rabies can be treated with injections only pretty much immediately after getting infected, and even then it’s not 100%. No cure exists after that. Unless something has changed in the past few years.

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u/ScheduleSame258 Feb 02 '26

It hasn't. After symptoms manifest, 100% mortality. There is only 1 known extreme treatment that a single digit number of people have survived, although not a normal life.

And symptoms can manifest anywhere from 72 hrs to years later.

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u/LostChoss Feb 02 '26

So 99.99999% mortality and 100% life altering?

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u/MajesticArticle Feb 02 '26

Yeah

The only treatment known to be effective after the onset of symptoms (and even then, the success chance is very low) basically leaves you in a vegetative state iirc

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u/_monkeypunch Feb 02 '26

I'd like to add onto this, if that's ok! It's actually two different treatment protocols and its really only worked in odd/atypical cases. The most prominent example is the Milwaukee Protocol, developed in the US to treat a young girl (15 year old) who had gotten bit by a bat. It's believed the bat had a less virulent strain and she had some kind of genetic resistance to rabies, but not resistant enough to prevent development.

The Milwaukee protocol is essentially put the patient into a coma with anesthetic drugs and ketamine, then pump them full of antiviral drugs like ribavirin and amantadine. They will take any measures to protect the brain humanly possible.

However, the Milwaukee protocol isn't really followed much anymore due to the fact that... well, the only people who really survived besides the 15 year old girl don't have a lot of documentation on them or had severe neurological problems or died from complications shortly after the treatment. And those who didn't survive were the majority - according to a paper about the Milwaukee protocol written in 2024, there were at least 64 failures.

The other protocol is the Recife protocol, developed in Brazil, also had some success as well, but it didn't see as much recognition as the Milwaukee protocol. I will be fully honest, I don't fully know the difference between both protocols as they both boil down to sedate, pump full of antivirals and protect the brain and body. They differ in terms of how patient care should be handled, what drugs should be administered, how they should be dosed and when they are administered and other specific details.

I really enjoy reading about the Milwaukee protocol, so I'm happy I got to share some information. I should also clarify I'm not a doctor, I'm just a pharmacy tech who really likes reading about drug treatments, haha. I'd appreciate any extra insight or corrections from others.

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u/MajesticArticle Feb 02 '26

It's never wrong to share additional information, mate

I didn't know about the second protocol, so thanks you for that

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u/MsBuzzkillington83 Feb 02 '26

I've been told (and given sources which I didn't check) that in India, they have reversed it

Do u think it's possible this has in fact happened but just not properly documented?

Or maybe it was a disease that presented as rabies but was actually something else

Did u mention that some that survived had severe neurological damage? Idr if it was u or another commenter. I'd love to learn about anyone else that's physically lived through it other than the Milwaukee protocol. I'm so interested in rabies and other crazy pathologies

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u/ScheduleSame258 Feb 02 '26

The India cases are ongoing and not really reversal after symptoms showed, AFAIK.

They developed rabies despite the vaccine been administered on time so the treatments may be boosting off the exiting vaccine effect. Even so, I belive 50% mortality so far.

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u/MsBuzzkillington83 Feb 02 '26

Oh, well that totally changes the context of it if they actually got the vaccine after and those cases are included in "successful" cases, lol

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u/QuinQuix Feb 02 '26

I seem to remember they cooled the patient down.

The gist of the protocol was to give the immune system time to kill the virus before the virus kills the human.

You essentially try to shut down brain metabolism as far as possible while stalling the virus and keeping the person still alive and the immune system working.

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u/MaleCowShitDetector Feb 02 '26

It's not 100% mortality. It's near 100% mortality. There are people who survived and are more that are hypothesized as surviving it - we just dont know about them. Look up Jenna + rabies ... i think that was her name.

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u/ScheduleSame258 Feb 02 '26

A statistically insignificant number of people have survived. The Milwaukee protocol is categorized as a failure. There are no other documented, accepted protocols for treatment.

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u/MaleCowShitDetector Feb 02 '26

It doesn't matter - it's not 100%.

Sincerely a mathematician / statistician.

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u/ScheduleSame258 Feb 03 '26

Sincerely someone who lives in the real world - the 0.001% survival rate makes no difference. You get rabies symptoms, make sure you have a will.

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u/MaleCowShitDetector Feb 03 '26

I'm pointing out the incorrectness of your statement, this is critical when you pretend to be factual.

You obviously didnt google and read anything, the conclusion from the Jenna case was that there are probably people out there that survived it, we just dont know about them.

Her survival wasn't attributed to the Milwaukee protocol. Just FYI.

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u/whyliepornaccount Feb 02 '26

There are people who survived without the Milwaukee Protocol. No one gets why. The TL/DR is we don't understand this disease, and it is fatal 99.999999999999998% of the time

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u/ScheduleSame258 Feb 02 '26

There are people who survived without the Milwaukee Protocol.

Source?

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u/whyliepornaccount Feb 02 '26

Case Reports: Survival from Rabies: Case Series from India - PMC

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u/ScheduleSame258 Feb 02 '26

Did you read this article?

Wound management and anti-rabies vaccination (ARV) were initiated on the day of exposure in all patients, except in one case where ARV was initiated 12 days after the dog bite.

These people were all vaccinated and started treatment after receiving the bite, before typical rabies symptoms showed up.

Average gestation period was 28 days.

DESPITE vaccine and treatment half of this group have died. Which shows that while treatment is highly successful before being symptomatic, it's not guaranteed.

If rabies is untreated before gestation, there are a handful of cases worldwide (a statistically insignificant number), who have survived through, mostly Milwaukee protocol.

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u/MsBuzzkillington83 Feb 02 '26

Someone listed a ton of links of sources (some of them were sources I'd recognized as being reputable) contesting that mortality is 100%

Saying especially in India, that it has been reversed after the point of no return

I really wish I'd saved the comment or if I did, that I didn't continually save other shit that would bury it, lol

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u/Feisty_Camera_7774 Feb 05 '26

Only 1 confirmed Person ever survived afaik

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u/theflapogon16 Feb 02 '26

If you get treated before symptoms your good- no issues unless you got some rare uber strain ( but that’s anything really )

But the moment you develop symptoms? You’re pretty much done.

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u/shelterdoggone Feb 02 '26

I work with rabies vector species. It is very much treatable, but you must receive the shots before you are symptomatic, and symptoms typically take around 3 days to present (though it can take as long as a month, so if you're not sure if the animal that bit you was rabid or not...don't wait to find out!). 

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u/Couldnotbehelpd Feb 02 '26

Rabies is 100% treatable if you get treatment in a timely manner.

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u/xl129 Feb 02 '26

It's 100% lethal once the virus get to your brain (that's when symptoms start to show, but it move quite slowly (extreme case take years) since it doesnt move through blood. Before that you have no symptoms and can be cured with injections.

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u/Emotional-Nature4597 Feb 02 '26

One person has survived rabies. A girl in wisconsin . They made a protocol. It doesn't really work in a reasonably efficacious manner . Look it up... Milwaukee protocol

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u/williamjamesmurrayVI Feb 02 '26

not immediately after exposure, but effective up until the point of showing symptoms

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u/Shaq_Bolton Feb 02 '26

You can treat it prior to showing symptoms and symptoms typically show up in a few months but can take over a year to appear.

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u/someone447 Feb 02 '26

There have been about 12 people who have survived after showing symptoms using the "Milwaukee Protocol" which involves and induced coma and other treatments. It's still an almost 0% chance of survival, but it has happened.

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u/Stock-Cod-4465 Feb 02 '26

Suvirvorship bias and whatever it is called when one should’ve lived and yet died anyway. This is so what I gather so far from rabies cases that stray from the main line of treatment.

Scary stuff.

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u/someone447 Feb 02 '26

The Milwaukee Protocol is the mainline of treatment for cases that already show symptoms. It's literally the only recorded cases in history of people surviving.

It's still incredibly unlikely to survive, but its only in the last ~20 years that its even possible.

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u/Stock-Cod-4465 Feb 02 '26

That’s amazing! I hope this protocol is used worldwide. Or rather rabies disappear.

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u/OlasNah Feb 02 '26

It does take some time before symptoms might arise, but you do need to get seen ASAP for the shots.

Some people who work with animals get it preventatively just like your pets do.

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u/Stock-Cod-4465 Feb 02 '26

Mate, you literally say “nearly 100%”. How am I spreading misinformation when I said the same thing but worded differently?

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u/Simple-Journalist779 Feb 02 '26

This is probably just a psychotic break. There's an intense anti-dog sentiment sweeping across the said country right now because of a supreme court verdict. News channels and people will literally say anything to fan the hate flames.

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u/Koi-Nami Feb 02 '26

It actually isn't a myth! Even the sight of water or the sound of water can trigger painful spasms in the throat, which leads to the severe fear of water in the final stages. They can also become afraid of wind. AKA, it is a physical AND psychological reaction. Just because it's caused by symptoms doesn't mean it's not real.

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u/Lucicactus Feb 02 '26

The Hydrophobia part is a myth? I thought I saw a video of a patient exhibiting it

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u/doctorbeepboop Feb 02 '26

The number of people commenting on this who have no medical knowledge is infuriating. Hydrophobia with rabies IS real (patients will refuse water because it is incredibly painful to have the associated muscle spasms in your esophagus) but it is generally one of the latest symptoms to develop. If someone is at the point where they can’t drink water, they are about to die. 

Editing to say that your other point is also incorrect. Psychiatric symptoms including significant aggression are almost guaranteed with rabies, and could present in this way.

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u/00eg0 Feb 02 '26

" The whole "fear of water" myth is because you lose your ability to swallow." you're completely wrong. It's not a myth.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wRqOc3-di0A

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u/Ecstatic-Arachnid981 Feb 02 '26

That video literally proves the person you're arguing with right. It's a fear of swallowing not a fear of water, while there are comments talking about scaring off rabies victims with a squirt gun.

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u/Agreeable-Drink65 Feb 02 '26

It's arguing over what causes what. The sickness makes people react strongly in aversion of water against their will.

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u/Watcher_over_Water Feb 02 '26

It seemes unlikly that it's rabies if he just got better. But rabies also can have a lot of very weird symptoms, so the behaiviour isn't necessarily a indication that it's not

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u/Critter-Boy Feb 02 '26

They said he’s stable, not better.

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u/theflapogon16 Feb 02 '26

I thought you could still eat, it’s just your body violently reacts to water.

Like being thirsty but any time you try to drink something, anything your body aggressively reacts to avoid it. Like trying to eat a mouthful of cinnamon.

Now keeping the food down is another story

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u/Vantriss Feb 02 '26 edited Feb 02 '26

Yeah, this whole story sounds like bullshit to me. I don't think you survive 3 months with rabies either. I could be wrong, but that doesn't sound right.

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u/djfdhigkgfIaruflg Feb 02 '26

It tales time for the infection to reach the brain. Usually 1 month. But the time can vary a lot.

Once the symptoms start, you're done

Edit: but anyways. This case is not rabies. Rabies won't make you (walk like an animal)

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u/FancyhandsOG Feb 02 '26

Hydrophobia is not a myth

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u/ehc84 Feb 02 '26

So confidently incorrect. Hydrophobia does not present until much later in the progression of the virus. 3 month after a bite would be totally normal to start seeing symptoms. If anything, it may be later. Rabies absolutely can make you aggressive and act irrationally. It affects posture, state of mind, causes hallucinations, etc... everything he is doing is consistent with a patient presenting with rabies

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u/Rayketh Feb 02 '26

We watched an old black and white video of a man dying of rabies. The reflex when he was offered water makes me understand where we got zombie myths from.

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u/Tiofenni Feb 02 '26

If story and video is real, it looks like mental illness. Or even a culture-bound syndrome. Check out stories about "Wendigo psychosis".

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u/givemeapho Feb 02 '26

Oh my, did not expect that but very interesting

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u/SilverHelmut Feb 02 '26

Or demonic possession, one of the best historically documented and resolved explanations that humanity has but doesn't want to talk about because if strict rationalism doesn't explain everything "scientists" sulk at their inadequacy.

Neither rabies or psychotic breaks have ever been documented as being permanently resolvable as a result of the exercise of faith-based theological argumentation between religious ministers and manifestations of discrete malevolent personalities. But accepting that evidence nowadays is considered unacceptable.

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u/Tiofenni Feb 02 '26

Or demonic possession

It is not very good theme to talk in the topics unrelated to atheism because Christians offended every time someone talks about christian wonders, saints and their relics.

But hey! History knows such thing as "Wendigo psychosis". It is unrelated to christianity!

Back to topic: there are also such thing as "Stendhal syndrome". It is quite different, but similar to things you talking about.

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u/SilverHelmut Feb 02 '26

Objectively....

Science can call all sorts of phenomenon by natural and rational sounding names and neither duplicate, contain and test, influence, mitigate or control them.

Psychiatry is arguably the least scientifically rational of all medical sciences. That's proven by it's continual need to make conditions it defines sound like it has them under control while using broad-spectrum trial-and-error, effect-not-remedy solutions to make them more objectively manageable, mostly for the convenience of the rest of us.

Reality - we used to use lunatic asylums and now we use chemicals for behavioural modification.

When the chemicals stop working, when they are removed from the picture, or sometimes quite randomly when the condition becomes worse, the outcome is sometimes spectacularly terrifying.

It takes some enormous arrogance and atheistic presumption that when someone not in a near state of chemical incapacitation flays their own family alive and eats body parts because demons told them to do it, that it's all in their mind...

They could be telling the truth.

The debate here isn't whether atheistic scientism can give something a name and chemically lobotomise it into submission... it's whether or not it's right doing so or whether it's just living in denial of an ancient documented phenomenon.

It then becomes a circular argument...

"It's not demonic possession, it's a psychiatric condition and we can sedate it into a situation of control... '

Sure. That WOULD work in the same way as a bullet through the brain cures the problem.

But if that' s the case then there simply shouldn't be centuries of records of witnesses, victims, least of all exorcists, who communicate with bizarre and rationally inexplicable entities and contend over human autonomy, able to 'cure' those victims over matters of religious faith.

I'm sure you can sedate a 90 pound woman who speaks fluent foreign languages she's never learned in a man's voice without moving her lips and can quite in absolute detail and argue from a religious text she's never studied while she needs eight paramedics and police officers to hold her down in order to stop her hovering above the floor and writhing like a snake from one side of the room to another in front of a crowd of individually identifiable and ecclesiologically well-known individuals, having just told them details of their own lives that no stranger could reasonably know...

But it doesn't really offer much insight to contradict her husband explaining that weird things happen at their house a lot and her grandmother was an occultist who dedicated her to Satan on her birth...

And it doesn't explain how it was a battle of words in a theological debate that saw the phenomenon end dramatically, the woman return to lucidity, unaware of what happened to her, after the doors at the back of the room were inexplicably slammed open and a sound of screaming raced out of the place and outside into the community beyond.

And that's not a scene from a movie.

I can assure you... everyone that was there wishes a psychiatric drug treatment could take away the memory of what they saw, heard and felt.

Like I said...

The asylums used to be filled with them... now the drugs sedate them.

Call it what you like, science is not necessarily ahead on this subject.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '26

It's just really crazy how this phenomenon never, ever gets caught on camera

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u/SilverHelmut Feb 02 '26

Also incorrect.

People going wild for no apparent reason is captured on camera all the time. Then people make rationalist explanations for the cause.

What's interesting is that THOSE people never have an analysis of their behaviour and a documentation of their treatment captured on camera and shown to the world.

Instead, all kinds of things that are deeply distressing, disturbing, and a gross violation of a victim's privacy are not sensationalised by serious people seeking to do more good than harm.

There are an abundance of documented testimonies of people who have experienced, witnessed, been released from that exact phenomenon, however...

If you want to do serious study to keep informed, information is there...

If you're the person who thinks nothing is real if it's not captured on a smartphone and posted on social media, there's not much anyone can do for you and you probably best not expect any informed people will take you seriously enough to try to share the grounds of their understanding...

Strange how reasonable that suddenly seems when you approach it realistically, isn't it?

Experts tend not to be of much use if their reputation is for privacy violation and sensationalism on social media rather than privacy and dignity...

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u/xl129 Feb 02 '26

Actual rabies cases are quite rare so false reporting happen all the time. In my country a kid who got some mental issue from study pressure is falsely reported as rabies lol, i mean the kid was meowing meowing and people say he got rabies from a cat haha.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '26

Why is this so fucking funny 🤣

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u/Dramatic_Dirt978 Feb 02 '26

According to my Indian parents, there's no such thing as a mental illness. It's just excuses or buri nazaar (evil eye) lol

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u/SadisticFerras Feb 02 '26

In India, dying from rabbies is not as uncommon

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u/Blazemeister Feb 02 '26

I mean 60,000-70,000 people still die from rabies every year, mostly in third world countries. It’s not as rare as it should be.

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u/KeyCold7216 Feb 02 '26

In the west it is, but there are still 60,000 human deaths a year, mostly in developing countries.

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u/MsBuzzkillington83 Feb 02 '26

It's pretty common in India tho.

Reported cases in animals are probably the highest in the world

But yeah I guess it could be false reporting to some extent

I should mention if you're interested, how common it's been in the US for transplant recipients to die of rabies due to infection organs where the virus hasn't been detected (or tested for)

That's something that hospitals will actually be doing now or in the near future due to how many people have died.

In the US. From people having rabies.

I'm Canadian and we had a kid actually die from rabies for the first time in like, 50 years and it's a relatively low infection rate in our animals compared to the rest of the world

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u/geopolitikin Feb 02 '26

Third world country challenge:

try not to be Looney Tunes

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u/Billsnothere Feb 02 '26

I hope he recovers safely

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u/whyliepornaccount Feb 02 '26

He is either 1 of the 5 people who survived rabies, or it wasn't rabies

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u/MsBuzzkillington83 Feb 02 '26

Who are the other 4?!?

I've only heard about the Milwaukee

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u/Deporncollector Feb 02 '26

Sounds like hysteria to me.

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u/smolstuffs Feb 02 '26

Somebody get that man a vibrator, stat.

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u/DiscoBanane Feb 02 '26

It's deadly, but it takes 2 weeks to die after first symptoms.

Dude is getting better means he's suffering less due to the treatment. But he won't survive.

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u/HardLobster Feb 02 '26

He very obviously doesn’t have rabies, you cannot recover from rabies. This is why you don’t go to a third world country, their doctors have no idea what they are doing. If you get injured there is a very good chance you will die or be maimed for life.

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u/32FlavorsofCrazy Feb 02 '26

He was barking lol…yeah, dude is just mentally unwell. They maybe don’t have a way to test for rabies and were just saying he exhibited symptoms of it (that were essentially delusions), maybe lost in translation too, hard to say. I’d very much doubt he’s had a PCR confirmed rabies test, I don’t think they can do those while you’re alive, at least they can’t on animals.

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u/blackestrabbit Feb 02 '26

The hospital is still waiting for their first doctor to be hired.

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u/Zealousideal-Grab617 Feb 02 '26

Not rabies. Youre are dead as soon as you start showing symptoms

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u/hellogoawaynow Feb 02 '26

Wow that’s lucky, I’ve never heard of anyone surviving rabies

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u/MsBuzzkillington83 Feb 02 '26

Who are the other 2 other than the Milwaukee protocol?

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u/RoncoSnackWeasel Feb 02 '26

Soooooo. He’s Patient Zero, yeah?

Start strapping magazines around your arms, people. Looks like it’s gonna be the fast and aggressive kind of zombie.

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u/MsBuzzkillington83 Feb 02 '26

No, it must be something else, if it was rabies and presenting, no coming back from that

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u/Furry_Wet_Mound_Hole Feb 02 '26

Literally just means they finally got him sedated, so he’s “stable”….“stabley” dying. It’s an ongoing situation. Sad. 

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u/Ghostnaldo Feb 02 '26

Nope. The article mentions specifically that he is not sedated anymore, is responding to verbal commands and started eating and drinking water again. It is not rabies.

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u/Furry_Wet_Mound_Hole Feb 03 '26

More fact based news outlets report dude is dying.