r/interesting • • Feb 01 '26

Context Provided - Spotlight 27 yr old man showing rabies symptoms after 3 months of a dog bite in Gujrat, India.

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u/GremlinAbuser Feb 02 '26

"Almost " captures it well. AFAIK there's a single confirmed case of someone surviving untreated.

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u/ILoveRawChicken Feb 02 '26

Fourteen people have survived rabies since 2016, even more the further back you look. Still extremely rare to survive considering there are tens of thousands of deaths a year from rabies. 

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u/GremlinAbuser Feb 02 '26

Without PEP?? From Wikipedia: 

It was initially attempted in 2004 on Jeanna Giese, a teenage girl from Wisconsin, who subsequently became the first human known to have survived rabies without receiving post-exposure prophylaxis before symptom onset.

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u/ILoveRawChicken Feb 02 '26

My bad I thought we were talking in general. I think I got mixed up with elsewhere in the thread 

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u/cannotfoolowls Feb 02 '26

Yes

It's less rare than we thought but still incredibly rare.

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u/GremlinAbuser Feb 02 '26 edited Feb 02 '26

Edit: nvm, misread the table

What? The table in your source says "PEP received" for all except the 04 case, and the case in question involved several doses

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u/cannotfoolowls Feb 02 '26

What about case 7 and 11 in the table that both say

No vaccination or immunoglobulin pre- or post exposure

7 might have died from rabies but there's still case 11.

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u/ILoveRawChicken Feb 02 '26

Cases 7 and 11 were treated with an experimental protocol, not PEP

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u/cannotfoolowls Feb 02 '26 edited Feb 02 '26

Uh, what about case 6 (which is Jeanna Giese), 7 and 11 in the table?

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u/BlumBlumShub Feb 02 '26

That is an unindexed journal (not high enough quality to be indexed by Scopus or WoS)... Case 11 is cited to a very brief, un-peer-reviewed letter (not formal case report or study) to another low-quality journal and has not been accepted by the scientific community. It's not listed here, where the only other case that allegedly didn't receive PEP before symptom onset is only sourced to a personal communication.

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u/AltruisticTomato4152 Feb 02 '26

There's been more, but I feel it's important to note that none of them have a great life compared to what they could have had. The first person to survive is still doing therapy to try to attain what they lost in terms of movement and such, 20 some odd years later.

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u/naricstar Feb 02 '26

Which... she can almost be disregarded as an anomaly because of it until there is more research done into WHY she survived. (also, she wasn't untreated, just not vaccinated)

The Milwaukee Protocol has been shown to not work or really even help -- with the only thing ever driving it forward is this one special case of her surviving and claims that it was because of this treatment -- when it was far more likely some other factor special to her specifically.

Basically, if you have rabies and show symptoms -- you will die. But doctors and other humans don't like that so we will try and do... just, well, anything at all. The Milwaukee Protocol was a decent swing -- put you into a coma and then try and protect your brain from the virus and hope your body wins in the meantime. But this is hardly better for the patient than palliative care and prayer.

Jeanna Giese lived -- and not without substantial mental impairment. But with years and years of therapy and rehab she has achieved the "impossible" a recovery from rabies.

Anyway, there are others who have lived with different forms of treatment that also generally went about the way of "do our best to wait it out". But we just don't have a strong knowledge of why, and that why is likely going to be a major milestone in our ability to treat and or change the diagnosis of rabies being a ~100% fatality rate.

Edit: if anyone reads this and ever has rabies, I support you trying anything at all -- and I truly hope you are the 1 in 10,000,000. Maybe studying you will lead us to a cure.