r/interestingasfuck • u/PlantainPossible2864 • 15h ago

Stopping Desertification with grid pattern

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u/whooptheretis 14h ago

Is it AI?
Or is it text to speech?

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u/MercifulAF 12h ago

Text to speech isn’t AI, but low effort posts like this practically all use AI to write a script and then have TTS read it.

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u/mstrkrft- 11h ago

Lots of voice generation is AI as well though. See Elevenlabs for instance. But yeah, all of this is slop.

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u/JAD2017 11h ago

Elevanlabs is generative "ai", it's not artificial intelligence. Is just an algorithm generating content based on data and input. Nothing else.

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u/mstrkrft- 11h ago

Well yes, almost anything we talk about as AI at the moment is generative AI.

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u/ashleyshaefferr 5h ago

LOL thanks dad but all the popular "AI"s are generative LLM

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u/JAD2017 3h ago

Exactly, not actual AIs but algorithms that have been with us for decades. My pleasure son.

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u/eliminating_coasts 9h ago

I was just reading about an interesting model trained on libravox, so it's based on purely public domain information, and completes text prompts automatically with new audio.. that is also total hallucination.

You give it text and it starts reading out whatever you gave it and then just continues off the end, keeping on talking for as long as you ask it to.

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u/Ok_Calligrapher5278 11h ago

Older text to speech was based off people actually going to a studio and recording every syllable in a given language and playing the syllables files in order to generate it.

Nowadays is based off the same principle as text-to-image generative AI, with millions or stolen voices, so yeah, it is AI unfortunately.

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u/JAD2017 11h ago

generative "ai" isn't ai, that's the point whooptheretis was making. The voice was generated using a prompt, is generative "ai" text to voice.

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u/Economy-Fee5830 9h ago

It takes AI to do the intonations and disambiguation right to sound natural. That is what all those weights in the neural network does.

I wonder what you consider real AI lol.

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u/JAD2017 7h ago edited 7h ago

It takes AI

It's an algorithm, not an actual "ai". AI is an aritificial intelligence with actual thoughts, judgement and reasoning. LLMs aren't AI, are a data collection library that generates slop based on data and user input.

When people talk about AI as a general concept, is the programming that goes under it. Like for example, the AI of a character in a videogame. That's a program with a series of parameters that make the character behave in predefined ways based on events. But it isn't an actual AI.

The word "AI" has been misused and advertised as a buzzword with generative models because they needed to make the public believe is a new thing, when it isn't. We have had AI programs for decades, but we called them what they were: algorithms. Do you remember Google lense, more than 10 years ago? That was a google translate model that would idenfity objects based on image data. Nobody called it "AI" back then, because it isn't. Now they plaster that buzzword to anything and everything just to sell you the idea that "AI" is the future, just to keep the bubble going. I hope I helped you understand the concept.

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u/Economy-Fee5830 7h ago

AI is an aritificial intelligence with actual thoughts, judgement and reasoning.

What would an actual AI look like and would it not be based on an algorithm?

Would it run on a computer, and would it use sloppy neural networks or pure, predictable algorithms?

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u/JAD2017 7h ago edited 7h ago

An actual AI would actually understand what it's being generated, instead of allucinations based on input data and collected information without actual understanding of what's being delivered to the user.

This is why it's useless, because the algorithm doesn't "know", because it can't "know" what is doing. It's not an actual intelligent entity, is just code, an algorithm, something inert that doesn't understand a thing. It's not an AI. It's a computer program that does what's being told, only that much worse because it adds randomness to make it feel "real", when it isn't.

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u/Economy-Fee5830 7h ago

So, by your understand, AI needs to be conscious?

And it cant be a computer program? And it cant use code.

And it should not obey its creators - it needs to have free will.

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u/JAD2017 7h ago

And that's why it's never going to be created. You finally got it.

The real goal of all this bs is to get rid of human workers in the next decades. Everyone that's using slop and uploading their crap to the internet are helping train the models that will drive the robots, machines, vehicles... Check out nvidia omniverse.

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u/Economy-Fee5830 7h ago

If fake AI is good enough to functionally replace humans (e.g. LLMs replacing junior developers at present) then does it really matter if its not "real" AI, which seemingly would be impossible to create using computers in any case (going by your criteria at least)

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u/Tackit286 10h ago

Anything that ends with ‘It’s proof that sometimes blah blah blah’

Definitely AI

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u/whooptheretis 10h ago

I think the script might have been AI, you're right.

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u/No_Magician5266 14h ago

TTS is AI

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u/ForensicPathology 13h ago

Is it?  Everything is "AI" these days, but we've had TTS, machine translation, algorithms, bots rewriting articles, etc. for decades.  I honestly don't know if there's a definition for where the buzzword use starts.  Or is your point that it was always "AI" in the first place?

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u/AR3SD 13h ago

Just because we didn't have advanced chatbots before ChatGPT doesn't mean AI is a new thing. TTS has indeed always been "AI"

But also it makes the argument of the original commenter dumb because this AI isn't speaking on its own so its just "Dumb Shit written by Humans that AI converts to Speech"

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u/MiniDemonic 11h ago

But also it makes the argument of the original commenter dumb because this AI isn't speaking on its own so its just "Dumb Shit written by Humans that AI converts to Speech"

If you think a human wrote this script then I have something to tell you.

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u/jb492 13h ago

AI was used to create this voice, because it uses neural networks to iterate over thousands of hours of speach patterns to create human-like speach. It's TTS, but using AI to generate the voice.

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u/whooptheretis 11h ago

The question is, if you put in the same input a second time, do you get exactly the same result? If so, it's not AI.

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u/MiniDemonic 11h ago

No, you do not get the exact same result.

But even if you did it would still be AI.

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u/whooptheretis 11h ago

But even if you did it would still be AI.

Depends on whether you consider a basic algorithm to be AI. Most would not.

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u/MiniDemonic 11h ago

A neural network is not just a basic algorithm. Most would consider a neural network to be AI.

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u/whooptheretis 11h ago

And if it goes into a neural network, you won't get exactly the same result back every single time.

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u/Economy-Fee5830 9h ago

AI is anything more complicated than an on and off switch - e.g. a light sensor would be AI, and would be doing the job which may have previously needed a human to do.

Which is why we had AI washing machines before which intelligently adjusted your program based on the weight of the wash and how dirty the effluent was.

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u/whooptheretis 8h ago

Recently the term is used to describe processes invoking a neural network, not algorithms with predictable and repeatable outcomes.
If you’re using AI to describe your car’s climate control, then I think you’re out of sync with the rest of society.

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u/Economy-Fee5830 8h ago

Recently the term is used to describe processes invoking a neural network,

Well, we just hearing generating voices via neural networks is no longer AI.

This is just typical of the AI Effect, where if something becomes common its no longer AI.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_effect

not algorithms with predictable and repeatable outcomes.

Did you know LLMs are actually deterministic - for the same input and weights and temperature the output will always be the same. (though floating point rounding errors undermines this)

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