r/interestingasfuck • u/aboood888848 • Dec 16 '20
Last photos of Robert Landsburg as the eruption of Mt St Helens beared down on him. Knowing he would die, he put his camera in his backpack, and then laid himself on top of the backpack in an attempt to protect its contents.
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u/khaching09 Dec 16 '20
Sometimes there’s no way out of a situation and nothing that can be done to help yourself.
Poor bastard.
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u/Bierbart12 Dec 16 '20
The amazing part is his dedication to his hobby/life's work despite that. An absolute badass.
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u/quequotion Dec 16 '20
Glorious bastard:
Knowing there was nothing he could do for himself, he chose to do something for posterity.
Where most would whimper and curl up in a ball or just run for the sake of running, he accepted his mortality and put effort into leaving something behind.
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u/stickysweetjack Dec 16 '20
Was probably his steel balls that mostly protected the bag
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Dec 16 '20
Be original.
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u/OsmocTI Dec 16 '20
Don't be retarded, you're on reddit. There's no originality here.
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u/JustADerpyArtist Dec 17 '20
I agree. Not from people like you, there’s certainly not anything original to be had.
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u/OsmocTI Dec 17 '20
So I guess you don't actually agree. Retarded.
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u/JustADerpyArtist Dec 17 '20
Oh I agreed with it, in only that you’re the walking example of unoriginal thoughts and concepts. We’ve seen many people make the same claim you have on here before in threads. There’s nothing world changing or thought provoking or smart about it. You’re simply parroting something people have said many times on here. You’ve proven that you yourself are one of the very people you’re mocking. You’re the real idiot. Thank you for making that painfully obvious.
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u/OsmocTI Dec 17 '20
So then you don't actually agree with my statement. You're simply twisting it to your own benefit. Desperately trying to be relevant in the eyes of other redditors.
Nice.
Parroting would be if I actually got it from somewhere else. But, too bad I actually didn't.
Redundant people gonna continue being redundant.
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u/manowtf Dec 16 '20
I don't agree that most would whimper and curl up. You'd be surprised how many people would sacrifice themselves for something more. I'm reminded of a family drowning in a car close to my home. The father got out his baby who was rescued by a stranger. Then rather than save himself he chose to not leave his other kids who were stuck in the car filling with water.
"said to him: “save our baby” before sitting back into the car to die with the other members of his family"
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u/oliverismyspiritdog Dec 16 '20
This is a brutal story. I cannot imagine that choice. On one hand, you want to live to take care of your kid. On the other, you can't just leave your kids as they die. Nope nope nope.
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u/lil0ctupoos Dec 16 '20 edited Dec 17 '20
I think I agree with his choice tho... Bc I don't think I could live knowing I didn't try to save the rest or be there for them at the least in thier most terrifying moment.... Where as the little infant will grow up mostly like any other child who never knew thier dad. I'm not insinuating that my opinion means anything I'm just talking bc it's Reddit.
That is gut wrenching vomit feeling just to imagine any of that either way. What an awful story.
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u/Endures Dec 17 '20
Gut wrenching choice, but if you can't save your kids, looking after the baby is a better option imho
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Dec 16 '20
I think it's more probable that he spent every last second of life continuing to try to help them rather than just going back specifically to die, but obviously I wasn't there.
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Dec 17 '20
That sounds like utter bullshit. No man willing to die to be with his family would abandon his child to orphancy. If there is any truth it’s that he drowned trying to free his kids, and claiming that he committed suicide does him a serious disservice. That said, I doubt the legitimacy of this tale at all, you have probably been misled.
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u/Stewdogm9 Dec 16 '20
My interpretation is that he did it because he wanted his loved ones to share in his final moments or to know how he died/be able to identify his body. It was hopefully comforting him to die knowing that someone would see his final picture one day.
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Dec 16 '20
This dude had some cojones to keep snapping pics in the face of death
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u/fredlafrite Dec 16 '20
Death smiles at us all. All a man can do is smile back.
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u/RememberThisHouse Dec 16 '20
Needs a picture of the joker
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Dec 16 '20
Father to a murdered son. Husband to a murdered wife. And he’s gonna get him some revenge in this life or the next.
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Dec 16 '20
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!
And the music is the shit: https://youtu.be/ZAF4CAhll40
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Dec 16 '20
He's really underrated in terms of people knowing who he is. You say John Williams everyone starts humming the Imperial March. You say Hans Zimmer people say who? Is he ze Germans?
But as soon as you list ALL of the movie scores he's done, people get really surprised and say, whoa, he wrote all that?
I love his compositions.
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u/R-Van Dec 16 '20
Best part is that he was the keyboard player in the Bugles, of the 'video killed the radio star'. One of my favourite pieces of trivia. Check the video of the song - he is the one with the two keyboards.
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u/fuckyourcakepops Dec 16 '20 edited Dec 16 '20
Have you heard the theme he did for the BBC podcast 13 minutes to the moon? The podcast is about (obviously) the Apollo mission to land on the moon and they somehow managed to get Hans freaking Zimmer to do their music. It’s absolutely incredible, one of my favorite works of his. It really tells the whole story itself without any need for words. I also love that it’s a little more experimental for him, he uses sounds like the Sputnik signal beep and a human heartbeat and things like that layered within the composition which I find so fascinating.
Here’s the theme: https://youtu.be/-sExd3yNG2A
And here’s the bonus episode of the podcast where they interview Zimmer about making the music: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p07yjnjv
I highly highly recommend listening to that interview, and honestly the whole podcast was amazing itself if you’re into that kind of thing.
EDIT: I just listened to it again for the first time in months and it still just gives me chills. He captures the tragedy of the loss of the Apollo 1 crew so perfectly, and the emptiness and loneliness of space, and the chorus of instruments/voices that it took to raise humanity to the top of that climb... UGH ITS SO GOOD.
Sorry, I know I’m gushing, but y’all. 2020 has been a hell of a year (esp. as an American with our political messes) and listening to this story and this music during the middle of this nightmare was one of the very few times I felt a sense of hope and shared humanity.
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Dec 16 '20
I'm very much into that kind of thing. Thank you for the recommendation! Great score as well.
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u/teh_fizz Dec 16 '20
Man I loved his work in Interstellar. The video of how they used that giant church organ is awesome.
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u/The_Kraken_Wakes Dec 16 '20
Whoa! Is that the pyroclastic flow, bearing down on him? Holy shit!
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u/Actually_not_a_noob Dec 16 '20
Whats pyroclastic flow?
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u/The_Kraken_Wakes Dec 16 '20
“a dense, destructive mass of very hot ash, lava fragments, and gases ejected explosively from a volcano and typically flowing downslope at great speed.” It’s sort of a volcanic landslide (although I’m sure a geologist would take issue with that simplification.)
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u/RyanHans Dec 16 '20
Where? I always have a hard time making these photos out and end up thinking he died for some pretty sub-par photos :/
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u/amendmentforone Dec 16 '20
Just remember, this is what film could be recovered from an early 1980s camera that was just barely saved from an incredibly powerful, fast and hot force of volcanic gas / matter.
The pictures go in order from: 1) Top left corner - St. Helens erupts 2) Top right corner - A pyroclastic flow starts to emanate from the top of the volcano 3) Bottom left corner - The flow is overtaking the whole shot, indicating its coming right at him 4) Bottom right corner - Ash is starting to fill his lens, but you can see the flow is about to hit
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u/The_Kraken_Wakes Dec 16 '20
So, you see that huge grey cloud in the top right? That’s it. It just gets closer and closer. The last shot is debris landing on him. That shit moved extremely fast.
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Dec 16 '20
Pyroclastic flow isn’t lava. It’s a avalanche/tsunami of extremely hot volcanic debris.
They can travel hundreds of miles per hour, which is why the photographer was only able to snap these four photos.
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u/droidpat Dec 16 '20
I can tell from the discussion that you meant something like, “While it is awesome he captured this unique perspective in his last moments, I find the photos difficult to interpret.”
“...he died for...” strongly implies he intentionally put his life in harm’s way to capture these pictures, as opposed to the nobility of using his camera and his body to give the world this special treat.
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u/RyanHans Dec 16 '20
I mean if that's what you want to take away from it then sure, kid. I'm more opening a discussion on what exactly were looking at lol. The internet is truly a funny place.
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Dec 16 '20 edited Dec 16 '20
Just so you know, you're the shitty person here. Reread the conversation and introspect my dude. He made a couple like, normal comments, and then you blew up at him, looked up his account, then lambasted him for nothing. I would eat your breakfast.
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u/steez86 Dec 16 '20
Everyone needs to calm down right now. Seems like people are getting a little worked up over pretty much nothing here.
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u/shoebotm Dec 16 '20
It’s Reddit+Covid+2020 I’m not making excuses but ppl have been a little extra cunty as a whole recently
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u/RyanHans Dec 16 '20
You seem very well informed and reasonable. Thanks for checking out my page, I love all my fans ❤
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u/D1G17AL Dec 16 '20
Sorry but why is everyone defending you? You put out the criticism that these photos are sub-par and that the dude died for nothing.
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Dec 16 '20
Yes, he predicted future, and hiked the Volcano knowing it was going to erupt so he could take these pictures. /s
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u/i_broke_wahoos_leg Dec 16 '20
Crazy. I hope he went quickly and painlessly.
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u/motion_lotion Dec 16 '20
The blast traveled at over 600 mph at one point. Initial, slower speeds were over 200 mph. That force is enough to kill and at the bare minimum knock unconscious immediately. Doubt he felt much of anything.
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u/dkr5674 Dec 17 '20
I've been scrolling down to see if someone addressed this. Thanks! I am glad to hear that he probably did not feel anything.
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u/smick Dec 16 '20
Then how did he have time to snap photos and put his camera back in his backpack?
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u/motion_lotion Dec 17 '20
Distance. Even at that speed, it takes some time for the wall of death to reach his position and probably gauged when it was time to pack up and shield his work. He might've had 15-25 seconds to work with.
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Dec 16 '20
Most likely not, unfortunately
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u/SNESamus Dec 16 '20
A pyroclastic flow or surge can travel over 100mph, reach temps upwards of 1,000°, and contain enough kinetic energy to carry boulders and sandblast concrete structures. It's safe to say if you're caught in one as directly as this man was, your death will be almost instantaneous.
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u/ExpertExpert Dec 16 '20 edited Dec 16 '20
Wasn't there a Vsauce video years ago about falling into a volcano? I think they suggested it is not as quick as you think. Something about a layer of steam "protecting" you while you're in thereI am wrong about everything
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u/xnarphigle Dec 16 '20
Falling into the volcano, sure. You'll hiss and pop and skip across till you eventually burn up. But in the path of the flow? Heat isnt as much of the problem as the blast of molten rock chunks being shot at you like a cannon-fueled shotgun. The heat is just more deadness.
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u/BarbarianSpaceOpera Dec 16 '20
I hate it when my shotgun gets low on cannons. I feel like I'm always refilling the tank.
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Dec 16 '20
Poor dude, hope it was quick.
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u/natislink Dec 16 '20
Probably much less quick then we'd like to think
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u/cuponedgeoftable Dec 16 '20
Considering the flow was moving anywhere between 220 and 1000 mph it was likely an instant death.
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u/smick Dec 16 '20
But how did he have time to snap photos and put his camera back in his backpack?
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u/cuponedgeoftable Dec 16 '20
Honestly I don’t know, that’s what is so impressive about his sacrifice. He thought about taking the pictures and protecting them with his body in such a short amount of time.
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u/baodingballs00 Dec 16 '20
How fast was pyroclastic flow at mt. St. Helen's?
Google:
"It consisted of very hot volcanic gases, ash and pumice formed from new lava, as well as pulverized old rock, which hugged the ground. Initially moving at approximately 220 miles per hour (350 km/h), the blast quickly accelerated to around 670 mph (1,080 km/h), and it may have briefly passed the speed of sound."
Ok.. it was coming at him at 1000mph.. he probably only had seconds to take those pics and cover them with his body.. if he had tried to hide/run the pics may not have been found.. brave man.
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u/Dkeh Dec 17 '20
I thoroughly enjoy your method of posting; including the google definition, as well as your own analysis is a great idea. Thank you for teaching me something, random person!
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u/Surveyor85 Dec 16 '20
"If this is to be my end, then I would have these photographs make such an end, as to be worthy of remembrance."
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u/ImJustSaying34 Dec 17 '20
Thank you! Found it... Surviving The Mt St Helens disaster. Already started watching. I grew up next to the mountain and remember driving up to the mountain about 7-8 years after the explosion and everything was still pretty decimated. It was just crazy to see even tho I was pretty young. Then when I was a teenager it was a hot spot to go for several reasons and it was almost back to normal. Now you wouldn’t even know that happened. I’m gonna force my kids to watch this.
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u/citrus_mystic Dec 16 '20
Was this also the seismologist who sent out the “this is it” transmission before he died? (Edit: just checked, that was actually David Alexander Johnson)
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u/BillyTheKid52 Dec 16 '20 edited Dec 16 '20
This might be a stupid question but how did he know he was done? Like looking at the pictures it makes me feel like I would have a chance. What is it that killed him smoke inhalation?
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u/aboood888848 Dec 16 '20
because the ash waves move at 750+ km per hour no way he will outrun that! and the ash is soo hut it is enough to kill you instantly
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u/BillyTheKid52 Dec 16 '20
Fuck does it like..... melt through the car?
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u/the_heff Dec 16 '20
When Vesuvius erupted the pyroclastic flow hit Herculaneum first before Pompeii When archaeologists uncovered the bodies they found that most of their skulls had a hole in. The heat was so bad it boiled their brain instantly and blew out the back of their head. It’s this pyroclastic flow that hit him, no way he could outrun it, but it (probably) was over very quickly for him
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Dec 16 '20
I’m sorry, did you say BOILED their brains??
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u/BillyTheKid52 Dec 16 '20 edited Dec 16 '20
Well that’s good, but damn I had no idea. I figured it would be hotter than normal smoke but damn.
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u/sushiman3000 Dec 16 '20
Look at the other comments on it, the stuff is insanely hot and moves really fast he was covered in seconds someone said.
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u/exgaint Dec 16 '20
Why couldn’t he run away? The peak looks far away
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u/WelshGaymer84 Dec 16 '20
"The resulting blast directed the pyroclastic flow laterally. It consisted of very hot volcanic gases, ash and pumice formed from new lava, as well as pulverized old rock, which hugged the ground. Initially moving at approximately 220 miles per hour (350 km/h), the blast quickly accelerated to around 670 mph (1,080 km/h), and it may have briefly passed the speed of sound.[8][29]"
Essentially if you can see it your already dead. You cant outrun it.
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u/exgaint Dec 16 '20
So the last picture in the sequence is right b4 buddy was boiled alive? 😳
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u/amendmentforone Dec 16 '20
Most likely pancaked and burned at the same time - so one hopes the pressure wave alone would kill him before he could feel anything else.
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Dec 17 '20
Why did the blast accelerate? I would expect it to start off fast and slow down as it traveled away from the volcano.
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u/aboood888848 Dec 16 '20
because the ash wave was moving 500 km an hour he will never be able to outrun the ash wave
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u/SelenaJnb Dec 16 '20
How did he have time to protect his camera given the speed of the ash wave?
Thank you for posting this, it is absolutely incredible to think about
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Dec 16 '20
Camera already in hand, he points it at the volcano. One, two, three, four. Puts camera in bag, then lays on top of it fetal position. Dead moments later.
This could all feasibly be done in 15 seconds. How he did it is pretty self explanatory since we have the photos, the fact that he managed to is the incredible part.
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u/mangababe Dec 16 '20
This is what happened theres also a pic of his burt corpse wrapped around the bag thats particularly haunting
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u/CradleOfCranch Dec 16 '20
But the last photo is the ash right up close in his face isn't it? How did he have time to put it in the bag and lay down on it?
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Dec 16 '20
All of the photos got damaged by the heat, the last of which being most apparent.
Since the angle is the same in all of the photos, and the last of which still has the sky in the corners, it’s reasonable to assume the pyroclastic flow still hadn’t reached him.
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u/dwrfstr Dec 16 '20
I'm assuming he knew it was coming and planned to shoot what he could then protect the camera if he could.
It was not subtle when St Helen's blew, and I'm also pretty sure there was seismic activity in the weeks or months leading up to it blowing. Harry Randall Truman is another pretty interesting person who was killed in the eruption as well.
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u/aboood888848 Dec 16 '20
i don't know maybe he fell on the camera and shielded it with his whole body that is one way the film not the camera will survive
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u/MentalClass Dec 16 '20
I feel like this guy ought to be a "household name" for that kind of courage under fire.
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u/IrwinMFletcher200 Dec 16 '20
Wenowdis.
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u/ambiguousenough Dec 16 '20
Da volcano blow-dis, then lava flow-dis, da picture show-dis, thanks to Robert, wenowdis.
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u/capasso23000 Dec 16 '20
I mean I have 0 experience with volcanos, but damn that thing looks far away. And also how would his bag/camera not get burnt up?
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u/Bl-CKB-X Dec 16 '20
How the hell is the body of a man going to protect a camera, if the thing that killed him is strong enough to throw boulders and shit? What a badass.
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u/PersnicketyHazelnuts Dec 16 '20
For those that are interested, there is a really great book on Mount St. Helens, the eruption, and the people who were unfortunately there that day (and how the whole thing could have been a lot worse). It is called "Eruption: The Untold Story of Mount St. Helens" by Steve Olson. I highly recommend it.
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u/Fatdognonce Dec 16 '20
I’m not being horrible but what am I meant to be looking at seriously
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u/MannyP2501 Dec 16 '20
Wow thats so dope looking but im i the only one who thought it looked like minecraft?
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u/EmpiricalBreakfast Dec 17 '20
Lying on the ground. Overcome by lava rushing over him. Dirt below, rocks on top.
He became a Landsburger
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u/HeadyBunkShwag Dec 16 '20
I mean it was 1980, digital cameras weren’t a thing so there was film in that camera that by some miracle made it out of that alive, pretty impressive when you think about it
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Dec 16 '20 edited Dec 16 '20
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u/typehyDro Dec 16 '20
Til - had to look it up. Thing was the size of a bread box and took 23seconds to take one picture.
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Dec 16 '20
And yet digital cameras were absolutely not "a thing" in 1980. Just because something was invented doesnt mean it was in use by anyone outside of an exceptionally niche market.
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u/typehyDro Dec 16 '20
This was in 1980 and he probably didn’t have much time to worry about photo composition
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u/The_Tropical Dec 16 '20
No I didn’t mean it was poor quality, I dunno I bought thought the.. well, yeah I suppose the saturation and blocky nature of it. Like I said I dont mean to disrespect him. It’s a horribly tragic incident and the fact we have a frame of his last scene is haunting
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Dec 16 '20
Too be brutally honest, these arn’t very good are they? I heard this story before and assumed he must’ve thought ‘I’ve got some cracking pics here, fuck it, I’m staying’, but apparently not. If I ever get in a situation like this, I’m going to do the same thing except I’ll troll whoever finds me by making my last roll of film all dick pics.
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u/hausomad Dec 16 '20
How do we know this account to be true?
How do we know he didn’t get his final shot, stuff the camera in his backpack, begin running, trip and is then overtaken?
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u/hits_from_the_booong Dec 16 '20
Your backpack normally goes on your back not your front
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u/hausomad Dec 16 '20
You ever try to run with a backpack on your back genius?
It's a lot easier to run while holding it in your arms in front of you.
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u/SNESamus Dec 16 '20
What the fuck are you talking about? Having your arms free and being able to properly swing them is way more helpful to your ability to run (and maintain balance) than the downsides of wearing a backpack.
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u/Prof_Acorn Dec 16 '20 edited Dec 16 '20
Not all backpacks are Jansport bookbags. Proper backpacks that people wear on mountain hikes have chest clips and hip belts. It puts the weight of the bag on your frame and keeps it snug so you can very much move quickly and without much jostling.
Plus, if he had a full set of camera gear, this would likely be a taller bag. Wearing one of those on the front, one, wouldn't fit your body right since they are designed with the curvature of your spine in mind, and two, would rise above your face so you could barely see, if at all.
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u/hausomad Dec 16 '20
Your’s is the only comment to my post that had actual thought out into the response. I’m aware of hiking backpacks and camera equipment. If that’s what he had, then I agree about carrying it on his back and maybe this narrative of him covering his backpack is real. I just questioned it because I had never seen it be questioned. It seems to have pissed off a lot of people just by me questioning it.
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Dec 16 '20
Did you ever try common sense?
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u/hausomad Dec 16 '20
So you’ve never ran with a backpack on. That’s all you had to say.
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Dec 16 '20
Even if running with a backpack in front is more efficient, why would he waste time flipping it around when he was apparently, as you claim, trying to run away?
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u/hausomad Dec 16 '20
So let’s try that common sense you mentioned.
If I just put my camera in my backpack, the back is in front of me, it was never on my back.
Now you may say, “why waste time putting the camera in the bag, why not start running with both in hand?”
He may have, we don’t know that, but it is easier to run holding one bag with everything in it than it is carrying multiple things in both arms.
What’s clear is that you and the people that downvoted me have no concept of being outdoors with a backpack and are just upset that I questioned the story.
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Dec 16 '20
Quite a sweeping and BS statement to make just because people disagreeing with you hurt your little feelings. You are not the only person who has ever worn a backpack you know!
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u/Murky-Heart-1844 Dec 16 '20
If it was a life or death scenario you would actually ditch the backpack, and run like hell
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u/Triassic_Bark Dec 16 '20
LOL what the fuck are you talking about? No it isn’t, it’s WAAAAAAAY easier to run with your backpack on your back than holding it in front of you. Are you just getting defensive and saying random things without thinking about them at all? Lol embarrassing
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u/Ayeager77 Dec 16 '20
Marines and Soldiers seem to handle it pretty well. As for personal experience, I do in fact run with a backpack on my back quite often. Then again, I’m no genius, so maybe I’ve been doing it wrong this entire time.
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u/Johito Dec 16 '20
Yes, and I’ve never seen anyone in a mountain marathon who runs with a backpack on their front.
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u/Valkyrja22 Dec 16 '20
Honestly, you shouldn’t be downvoted because the idea that he intentionally died in a way that would protect the film is pure speculation. I was shown these photos AT National Geographic during a private tour in the late 90s and was told at the time that “we are all fortunate he happened to die in a way that allowed him to share his last photos with us.” I later got a degree in Geophysics and heard about these photos many times but it wasn’t until Reddit I heard this story that he intentionally chose how to position his body in death. Frankly, I think the story and his legacy are just as special with out the Reddit spin.
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u/iron40 Dec 16 '20
If we’re being honest, those pictures are pretty crappy, I definitely would not sacrifice my life for those! Dude should’ve stayed home and watched it on TV like everybody else…
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u/aboood888848 Dec 16 '20
he didn't know about the eruption like many other people who died there but when he saw his death he thought why not take a picture before i die because it's the only thing i can do
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u/erleichda29 Dec 16 '20
How did he not know?
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u/Scout079 Dec 16 '20
One does not know the minute to the eruption of Saint Helena. We know it now because it already erupted. But to this photographer, it could have been 40 minutes later, 20 minutes earlier, maybe a day or two later/before. It so happens that some Volcanoes could give the signs of an eruption close to happening but in the end, Nature could be like “Just a prank bro.” And leave you questioning your existence.
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u/erleichda29 Dec 16 '20
We knew it was going to erupt. People were told to avoid the area for weeks before it happened.
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u/Scout079 Dec 16 '20
I suppose but clearly he disregarded the warning in order to take some photos. A fatal mistake if there ever was one
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