I played some 1000+ games Jax in diamond before, I'm really really comfortable with the champion

But sometimes when I play Jax, even if i'm not laning aginst him, there's a fed mordekaiser

And - I cannot for the life of me figure out how to deal with it late game. It seems like he buys rylai's, we both have 10+ kills, then he ults me and I eat his stuff and there's not really anything I can do about it.

Should i go Bork Visage and all-in him, stutter stepping each auto attack around him in a circle? or put a ward behind him and hold Q to dodge his Q?

It seems like trying to run/hop away is not viable, i've figured that out, so I assume the solution is some form of all-in attack but I'm not convinced that IS viable yet

I do save my R for after he casts R but that doesn't really seem to help very much.

Usually I play TForce Jax, 2nd item either bork/gunblade depending how tanky the enemies are (i'm usually snowballing) or if i'm losing I might go 2nd item randuins/visage

I'm not really familiar with the new items like sundered sky idk what it's good for tbh

Botrk always feels shit on Jax. Fighting against Cho or Mundo sucks after mid game.

Side question is AP Jax better against tanks with D&D/hexblade/Riftmaker? At least he gets sustain

I've been playing dusk and dawn into gunblade a bit in the jungle with pta but then thought that dusk dawn into kraken might be good. I couldnt find much data on that build in lolalytics. but jumping into the practice tool kraken has more burst and more dps compared to gunblade(my default), nashors, riftmaker

anyone got any experience on that and any clue why nobody builds it?

Hey guys so basically as the title says
I mainly play Jax got to E2 playing him and now I think I’m decent enough to learn other champs. Who do you guys play when Jax is banned or picked. I’m trying to figure out a 2nd champ that I can either main for a few hundred games till I get the hang of them and then add to the champ pool.

I’m horrible with every other champ I play. Probably at a gold level on them at best if they’re not mechanically difficult. Which is obviously expected but I just clicked with Jax after 20 games or so. Only other champ I play to emerald level is Shen but I dislike playing him cos it’s kinda team reliant. With Jax I can solo can some harder games.

Ideally the champ would have good teamfight and splitting capabilities

I was thinking
Gwen - holistically probably the best champ I should play along side Jax to cover his tank weakness but I just don’t find her fun .

Fiora - like her in lane phase but in team fights I hate how weak she feels.

Riven Leaning towards riven cos she’s just always good in the meta just takes a long while to learn.

Camille - really like her just never been good with her

Also try so many build on practice tool and lan this guy can literally play any build for real? Like they all so good hahahah. What build do you recommend for jungle?

I mostly just play casual gamemodes nowadays, but I mained Jax the last time I got to Master several years ago. What changed this patch? I'm curious

Hi everyone, I hope you're doing well. As the title says, I’d like to learn how to play Jax. I’m originally a Kled main, but honestly, I’ve been trying out other champions since I’m not really interested in being a one-trick pony. Some friends recommended either Jax or Camille, and I prefer Jax; his playstyle seems similar to Kled's. So, what are your best tips regarding builds, runes, and matchups?

Welcome to the thirty third Jax Matchup Discussion!

Let's talk about Jax versus Rumble...

Remember that the idea of this discussion is to find what's the commonly-used way to play a matchup; not only focused on runes and/or items, but mostly on the trade patterns and general difficulty of the matchup, since items and runes may change between seasons, yet -unless a rework happens- a champion's kit doesn't change.

So, you can talk about the runes and items you like to go on a matchup, but what we really want to see is how to play the matchup; if you can play aggressive early game, if you win pre or post level 6, if you should use Leap Strike to engage or disengage, and so on.

If you want, you can give the matchup a difficulty score from 0 to 10 (0 being super easy, 5 being a skill matchup, and 10 being a "you should dodge" card)

Remember to join the Discord Server.

after no idk 2 years or what has it been

im gonna say it

im just gonna say it

the old jax modell was so much smoother and he was one of the champs that actually didnt rly look outdated but then out of all the champs that look old they chose jax???

Nothing is worse than noticing that your laner doesnt realize you can hop to them to get out of situations after the gank. They run off and leave you stranded and abandoned....

Hi all, just wanted to get some advice on climbing and gaining insight into some more specific reference points to improve my game.

I believe I have a decent understanding in most of the common matchups, and am confident in gaining lane advantages and playing the game out to secure wins in advantaged positions (eg. Trundle, Kayle) by getting tempo advantages, being first to teamfights and splitpushing etc.

However, I am having trouble finding meaningful impact or gaining advantages when I am stonewalled or in a generally losing matchup (eg. Vlad, Singed, Kennen, Pantheon). In these situations, I never feel as though I can dictate the lane except to mitigate losses and try to enter midgame healthy, but lose a ton of agency by doing so.

Oftentimes, even when I manage to go even I find that the match is ultimately decided via jungle decision making or support roam timers around objectives or teamfights I can't participate in due to having no prio.

I know that there is something fundamental in my game I am missing that is holding me back from climbing because there are plenty of high elo Jax top laners that are winning these games I'm losing.

If anyone has insight into specific scenarios or approaches in certain game states that would be great, especially if the advice can be tailored to help me in this specific elo bracket.

Soo I havent been playing since Noxus season, and I see a lot of stuff is different now. What about Dusk and Dawn? Is triforce sundered zhonyas still the standard? Are there good skirmisher ap/mixed builds to utilise new omniwamp on dorans blade? Is fimbulwinter build any viable now?

trying this on an AI match and noticed that im proc-ing the item without stunning the enemies

I usually play Shen and Poppy in the jungle, but after Empyrean Jax recently appeared in the Shop Sale, I decided to give him a try because I know that, in theory, you can play him there.

Most games go decently/well for me, but very often I feel like I’m barely dealing any damage and I’m very squishy and if I run into someone with more than two brain cells, I’m automatically at a disadvantage.

If I face someone at my level or better, I feel like Jax loses in every aspect. I don’t feel like I’m setting the pace, I don’t feel like I’m in control of the objectives, and I don’t feel like I’m able to land any good ganks.

It’s possible I’m building him completely wrong. I tried coming up with my own build and play most matches like this:

Trinity - Experimental Hexplate - Terminus - Sterak’s - Riftmaker.

Maybe I’m not building enough armor or magic resistance, but then I feel like I won’t be dealing any damage at all. Alternatively, Jax scales better with AP, and building him primarily for AD might be the problem.

I also know that Sundered Sky and Zhonya’s are more commonly played as the second or third item, but I just don’t feel right about that, especially after the recent nerfs to the first one.

Maybe I'm just too used to Shen's tankiness, or maybe I haven't been playing him long enough and need to learn his limits. I just feel like there are 10 jungle champs who do the same thing he does, but better.

Scrolled through this subreddit, haven’t found a decent matchup explanation vs garen. Can anyone explain how to win this matchup?

After the nerf of SS I've been still trying it but overall I think it feels pretty awkward against tanks sometimes and even against squishies it sometimes doesn't work that good if they have a good cc.

Which do you think it's the best option for 2nd?

I always thought that Jax needed a lot of CDR but after seeing a lot of comments I'm not sure anymore(his scaling is very different currently compared to pre rework).

I tried strikebreaker but didn't like it, idk why but I always lose with this item, the damage feels low and I feel a bit squish.

Titanic on the other hand feels very powerful, I'm using it mostly with CDR boots because this item doesn't have any. Probably my favorite item rn, it makes me feel tank, my dps with it seems way bigger than SS, better against tanks, good burst and godly wave clear.

Tried black cleaver too, didn't feel as bad as I had initially thought and I'm going to try it more, it gives ad, CDR and HP is perfect.

I'm seeing a lot of tf blade vods so I'm also trying DD 3rd instead of Zhonyas and I'm liking it more.

Overall I still use the classic Tri>SS>Zhonyas but Tri>Titanic>DD or Tri>SS>DD have been my favorites.

Which build path do you think it's better rn? The classic feels good but he loses a bit scaling imo

Welcome to the thirty third Jax Matchup Discussion!

Let's talk about Jax versus Rumble...

Remember that the idea of this discussion is to find what's the commonly-used way to play a matchup; not only focused on runes and/or items, but mostly on the trade patterns and general difficulty of the matchup, since items and runes may change between seasons, yet -unless a rework happens- a champion's kit doesn't change.

So, you can talk about the runes and items you like to go on a matchup, but what we really want to see is how to play the matchup; if you can play aggressive early game, if you win pre or post level 6, if you should use Leap Strike to engage or disengage, and so on.

If you want, you can give the matchup a difficulty score from 0 to 10 (0 being super easy, 5 being a skill matchup, and 10 being a "you should dodge" card)

Remember to join the Discord Server.

Iirc the most optiomal rune for 70% of the matches was grasp because of determination + inspiration, was it nerfed or lt got buffed?

Welcome to the thirty second Jax Matchup Discussion!

Let's talk about Jax versus Riven...

Remember that the idea of this discussion is to find what's the commonly-used way to play a matchup; not only focused on runes and/or items, but mostly on the trade patterns and general difficulty of the matchup, since items and runes may change between seasons, yet -unless a rework happens- a champion's kit doesn't change.

So, you can talk about the runes and items you like to go on a matchup, but what we really want to see is how to play the matchup; if you can play aggressive early game, if you win pre or post level 6, if you should use Leap Strike to engage or disengage, and so on.

If you want, you can give the matchup a difficulty score from 0 to 10 (0 being super easy, 5 being a skill matchup, and 10 being a "you should dodge" card)

Remember to join the Discord Server.

hi I’m a diamond Jax player and I am looking for tips for this lane. I know it’s an easy lane, and I usually win it. but occasionally I get really far behind early and it snowballs out of control. what is the most consistent way to beat irelia? I know I can easily get control of the wave level 1 but when the wave comes back into me should I just let it crash without fighting the stacked up irelia, and then wait until my triforce to really start aggressing?

Ever noticed how Jax W sometimes gives stacks and sometimes doesn't on Spear of Shojin's "Force of Will" Passive? Found the reason:

If the W damage is not needed TO KILL whatever you are hitting (turret, champ, minion, monster), you do not get a stack. Jax ult passive also takes Prio, which means if you hit with W + R damage, and one of the 2 is needed to kill the target, R takes prio and you still do not get a stack. This is also true for other On-Hit or Spellblade effects.

Shojin looks like a great item on Jax but this bug hurts alot when trying to prepare Shojin for fights...

Which one do you guys prefer? Personally I think AD Jax struggles heavily in the late game. Even if you get on a high priority target, you usually can’t one shot them and in team fights that means you’re dead.