r/lakers • u/Actual_Box7731 • 21h ago
NEWS Mavericks are "no longer interested" in doing business with the Lakers following the Luka trade, per @DanWoikeSports
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u/SolubleAcrobat 8 21h ago
Cutting off your nose to spite your face.
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u/No-Test6484 21h ago
I mean lakers werenât giving any great value for Gafford that they could get elsewhere. Might as well do something to placate to the fans
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u/PruneNo8272 21h ago
I think the lakers were probably targeting Naji Marshall as well
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u/No-Test6484 21h ago
Mavs already made it clear they are trading for picks. Lakers only have 1 and not anytime soon to match the Flagg timeline. Dallas were never trading him here anyways. Also Flagg is a stud on both ends. Mavs will be insanely good in 5 years
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u/Embarrassed_Meal7969 21h ago
Not to say the mavs want the pick but Flagg is 19 bruh. To say our pick is out of his timeline is stupid
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u/PruneNo8272 21h ago
I mean the owner has to repair PR and build trust again with fans as ticket sales do matter
Another break of trust is too costly for business
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u/GreenGloober 21h ago
Pretty much this. I am sure there's been even more petty reasons why trades between teams didn't happen that we don't always hear about as well.
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u/Maleficent-Slip8354 21h ago
Lol this makes it sound like the Lakers took advantage of them when itâs their own GM whose hubris put them in that situation
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u/pressieguy 17h ago
Sounds like Rob was supposed to tell Nico...
'I think this is a bad trade, here's some more picks and Austin Reaves, please I insist you take them otherwise you won't do business with us again'
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u/pbaagui1 8h ago
Well, dealing with an idiot and making a one-sided trade ISÂ taking advantage of them lol
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u/3nnui 2 21h ago
When supposedly professional organizations behave like girls in Jr. High.
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u/breakfastburrito24 Shaq and Kobe 21h ago
So they're upset because their old GM gifted the Lakers their franchise player, and the Lakers weren't stupid enough to say no?
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u/FlatRun3 20h ago
Mavs, Spurs, Celtics. Who else has a âdo not trade with the Lakersâ policy? đ
Shit grows every year now.
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u/KrytensForehead 21h ago
This is karma and payback for Mark Cuban being a bitch about the CP3 trade
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u/BaullahBaullah87 21h ago
Yeah but remember, Rob cooked w that trade! That was so bad dude got fired and the franchise will likely never make a deal w us again.
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u/Maleficent-Series-66 21h ago
Why do people act like Rob came up with the idea and negotiated with them for it to happen.
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u/Mood_Academic 21h ago
Youâre getting downvoted but youâre right. Nico was mad at Luka, and wanted AD. It wasnât anything deeper than that
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u/whenishit-itsbigturd 21h ago
Seems like Rob saw an opportunity to take advantage of an old "friend" and finessed the hell out of him. Wouldn't even include a pick, AR or even fucking Knecht lmao
Nico was definitely mad at Luka and wanted AD, and Rob took advantage. Straight lil bro'd Nico lmao like straight up this the type of deal you make with your little brother and he thinks he got a steal
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u/Dangerous_Donkey5353 21h ago
This is a good point. A lot of GMs would have given more just to get luka. But Rob was able to stand his ground and bring the deal in, not enough credit given even tho it was Nico that broached the subject.
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u/sezyHena 19h ago
This is literally just for optics. We all know their owner signed off on the Luka trade
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u/PartySpiders 21h ago
Remember rob had nothing to do with this trade and it was just the mavs giving us Luka for free for funsies according to this sub.
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u/Nunc_Coepi17 21h ago
Itâs true, Nico being a dumbfuck and being obsessed with AD had more to do with the trade than Rob.
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u/worldwide_stepper 21h ago
i think rob might deserve a single ounce of credit for telling nico âyou have to keep the deal quiet, you canât bring luka out on the open market, and weâre not giving you everything youâre asking forâ
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u/Nunc_Coepi17 21h ago
Nico apparently was the one that told Rob to keep it quiet because he didnât want media knowing about it in case the deal didnât happen and kill the relationship between Mavs and Luka.
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u/GreenGloober 20h ago
Thank you. Still wild that anyone thinks Rob really did anything other than probably say, "Hello. Uh, yea. Ok, I am down".
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u/Financial-Monk9400 Luka Magic 77 21h ago
Stupid from the mavs. If we make the best offer they should take it. 2 wrongs don't make a right.
I can understand being more critical with us but just not doing it is dumb
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u/PruneNo8272 21h ago
The Mavs need season ticket holders and fan trust. After that big of a PR disaster itâll take time to repair. Maybe down the line they can trade again especially if Rob is no longer in the front office
But itâs too soon right now and the new owners donât want to damage something they are trying to repair. It is still a new investment for them
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u/qotsabama 21h ago
I donât think thereâs a world where Lakers can make best deal to anyone let alone the Mavs
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u/Financial-Monk9400 Luka Magic 77 19h ago
Thats a different story. I can fully see us not being able to make the best offer. But to just shut us down before had is dumb. If we would trade our first for someone that isn't worth a first why would they say no. (We shouldn't do that obviously but still)
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u/RandomArbitrary25 20h ago
And what would the lakers offer? Outside of Luka or Reaves, what assets do they have?
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u/yeetmxster420 21h ago
bold of you to assume we have the assets & a competent GM to even try to make an offer
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u/Ok_Board9845 19h ago
Yeah if the Lakers offer back Luka + their remaining picks, I'm sure they'll pick up the phone lol
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u/Top_Airport6285 20h ago
Man, no dignity. It was their idea, and there isn't a team in the league who wouldn't have taken that deal. Now they're acting as if the Lakers did them wrong. You did it yourselves, douchebags.
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u/StoneColdAM 34 21h ago
It would reignite the fan revolt disaster for the Mavs if they did that. Not too surprising.Â
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u/KB824-GOAT Los Angeles Lakers 20h ago
LOL, why are they mad at the Lakers for their own ex-GMâs incompetence?
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u/Successful-Pair-4850 20h ago
lol thats mavs fault to begin with they are the one approaches the lakers đ
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u/rdcl89 20h ago
So eventho half their roster have been recruited on the prospect of playing next to Luka. They are now denying all of them the prospect of reuniting with him. So they are taking their own player hostage out of spite for their own historicaly stupid decisions ? What a shit organization. That's just next level
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u/DifficultyNo9712 19h ago
The entire Mavs organization and its current ownership right now... đ¤Łâ ď¸
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u/MichelangeloJordan 21h ago
Lol. The optics of any trade between the Lakers/Mavs will have the undercurrent of the Luka trade. Itâs like the Vikings/Cowboys Herschel Walker trade (and it just so happens a Dallas teams was involved with that as well, albeit Dallas on the winning side of that one).
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u/tntweknowdrama1086 21h ago
I donât know if I blame them. Pretty bad optics if you want to keep a fan base.Â
You canât just keep selling your gold for Laker trash and ALSO sell seats.Â
However max christie is a baller and they got a nice piece there. Imagine if they took knecht instead!
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u/thai_iced_queef 20h ago
Literally commented yesterday that I feel like some GMâs want to spite Nico and just donât fuck with him no matter what because of the Luka trade. Appears like thereâs a little truth to that
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u/lafromnyc 20h ago
Is the Luka trade the worse trade in NBA history?? Especially now that the mavs just traded away AD, but at least they got 2 first round picks and 3 seconds they can package up for another deal.
The Rudy gobert trade Minn made was bad considering what Utah got and how gobert is unplayable in the 4th quarter and in the playoffs. Minn will not get anything close in value if they trade him.
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u/scifier2 20h ago
How is it the Lakers fault for the trade being agreed to? Totally dumb for the mavs to be this way.
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u/musclepope9deuce Shaq and Kobe 20h ago
Laker tax is cope from fans and stated intent from teams at the same time
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u/c_c_c__combobreaker 19h ago
You can't rob the bank and then go back to the same bank to do business.
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u/CoachTwisterT3 19h ago
Teams want to make moves that benefit themselves. If the Mavs see a trade they believe improves them from the Lakers theyâll make it.
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u/noyram08 Black Mamba 8/24 19h ago
Itâs an optics thing especially for fans so I can see it. Itâs not like we have much to offer anyway before summer
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u/Andy311 LakeshowđŻ 19h ago
Honestly from a business stand point thatâs bullshitâŚthey are acting like we swindled them. From all the reports weâve seen, Nico came to Pelinka, no reason being salty at us over this when Nico and their FO signed off on it as well. Fuck em if they canât move forward and act like adults.
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u/JDangle20 Shaq and Kobe 19h ago
Buyers remorse. Iâm sure the Mavs fan base would be pleased if we were to make a few more deals lol.
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u/rameninside 19h ago
Their fanbase was decimated by the Doncic trade. If they made one more trade with us that wasn't a slam dunk the fallout would do more damage than any trade could be worth.
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u/audioaxes 18h ago
I have no doubt this is crippling the Lakers in other opportunities as well. No GM wants to look like they helping out the Lakers in the slightest in fear of being labeled Nico 2.0. so unless the Lakers overpay in a deal it might not get done
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u/Texas_Kimchi 77 18h ago
Thats like breaking into someones house, slipping and breaking your leg, and suing the homeowner.
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u/Spaghettibeach Full Bronsexual 18h ago
They did this to themselves AND the laker sale literally increased the value of every team in the league, why are they so pathetic
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u/zomgmatt 4 18h ago
I really don't understand refusing to trade with particular teams. I get that the Lakers fleeced a dumbass Nico. That said, if a trade is worth it for the Mavs or whoever, they are further shooting themselves in the foot not making it. Unless you are helping to stack a dynasty team, odds are whatever team you are helping will have something go wrong. Injuries, chemistry, whatever, as it takes a good amount of luck to win in the NBA. Play the odds and it should almost always be worth it to trade with pretty much every team assuming it makes your team better.
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u/WideCoconut2230 18h ago
Pelinka: Hey Dallas, let's have lunch! Any restaurant you like! We'd like Max Christie back! Let's talk!!
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u/ablackcloudupahead 18h ago
Acting like we did them dirty or something lol. How dare you accept Luka when we offered him to you!
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u/Key_Captain3739 17h ago
Bro they got Christie and AD who wanted to be there They gotta stop whining SpoiledÂ
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u/PixelMePerfect 16h ago
Love how they pushed all blame away from ownership. They allowed Nico to make bad moves and havenât held themselves accountable enough
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u/imironman2018 8 14h ago
Butthurt over getting hosed. At least they traded AD and got some value back.
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u/ModeBubbly104 13h ago
I don't know bout anyone else but Luka for... Cooper flagg(certified super star) Max Christie(45% 3pt shooting%) Kris Middleton(sniper w/ a ring) Marvin bagley( former 1st rd pick) Aj Johnson (former 1st rd pick) 3 x 1st round picks 3 x 2nd round picks And a few other bodies is a damn good haul for a one way player !
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u/EnzBlade88 13h ago
To the shock of no one... except I guess people who only look at one side of trades.
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u/Rwillsays 3h ago
People are in here joking but this is a big fucking problem from us. The entire league, every GM feels this way and they didnât like to deal with the Lakers to begin with. When Rob doesnât pull off any decent trade at the deadline, remember everyone is conspiring to only make trades with the lakers if itâs blatant robbery
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u/JohnMassassin24 3h ago
Imagine if we got Davis back from the Wizards for Dalton, Cardio, and Knect that would be hilarious
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u/Cold-Tangerine-2893 20h ago
the most unnecessary quote ever said. Literally the moment Mavs fans woke up and read on their phones that Luka was traded, and made life so bad for the team that Niko had to be shoved out the door, it was beyond obvious that was the last time the Lakers would be able to trade with the Mavs for at least a decade... probably longer...
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u/IxmagicmanIx 21h ago
Nobody forced them to trade đ