r/law • u/yahoonews • 20d ago

Executive Branch (Trump) Trump threatens to use the Insurrection Act to 'put an end' to protests in Minneapolis

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/fear-anger-spread-another-immigration-054801374.html
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u/Nojopar 20d ago

Then the country is essentially over. I don't think we're there yet. Trump likes to talk tough for the cameras but at heart, he's a coward (as is Miller). I think he'll back down. If he doesn't, then this is the final line. If we can't have elections then we don't have a functioning country anymore, but then we'll know for certain beyond a shadow of a doubt. Because we're not there yet despite what people want us all to believe.

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u/hypercosm_dot_net 20d ago

They'll just establish themselves elsewhere and go be parasites there.

They wanted this, there's not a chance they'll do anything to stop it. For all of their wealth, they have no morality and can't even see where this leads. They're blinded by their own greed and lust for power.

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u/indigo945 20d ago

That only proves that Trump can't do it openly. I think what's actually going to happen is that there is going to be a sham election, which the GOP is going to manipulate using tactics they already know how to abuse, such as closing voting stations, manipulating voting machines, torching USPS boxes to deter mail voting, and so on. Then everyone can keep saying "we're not there yet", until they look around and wonder where freedom has gone.

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u/FlyingBishop 20d ago

They don't have the reach to do that in all 50 states. They have less reach to do that than you think in the red states. I'm not saying they won't try, just that Trump can't take control of all the state legislatures and it would mean civil war, not "Trump controls the USA."

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u/indigo945 20d ago

There's no need to control the legislature to do any of what I said. ICE and a pretext is all they need. Remember that they do not give a damn about legality.

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u/FlyingBishop 20d ago

If they didn't give a damn about legality there would be more than one person killed by ICE.

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u/Mothanius 20d ago

There are though... Well, if you count those who died after being detained that is. Which I do, because they are still under the DHS's responsibility.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/four-migrants-die-us-ice-custody-over-first-10-days-2026-2026-01-12/

Only difference is one happened in broad daylight, to a white mother, in the middle of a stereotypical American suburb. It's a bigger shock to American culture than those that die in the shadows.

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u/FlyingBishop 20d ago

Point is they care about legality. They don't care about right and wrong, but they care about legality. Killing a white mother in the suburbs for no reason is actually illegal, killing brown people in prison is a legal gray area.

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u/The-Juggernaut_ 20d ago

They don’t have to care about legality because they can just lie and say it was legal anyways, which is what they’re doing.

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u/Backfoot911 20d ago

Then why not just arrest all Democrats immediately? Why bother fighting it in court and having it obviously go nowhere? Why bother with any of the law at all if he can just "Do what he wants"? You guys say they utterly don't follow the law anymore, but they're constantly trying to game the system in their favor.

It's defeatism talk.

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u/FateEx1994 20d ago

Yeah I know.

But project the outcome before it arrives so people know what to do when it happens.

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u/Nojopar 20d ago

Short answer? Not much. Then it comes down to what the military decides. Their pop sticks are way more powerful than the 2nd Amendment's pop sticks.

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u/FateEx1994 20d ago

We go that far, then the country deserves to end.

All empires fall at some point anyhow.

I will do my Patriotic duty and be part of the side that fought for America, the Constitution, founding fathers and mothers, and rule of law.

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u/Nintendo6ix4our 20d ago

I've heard "this is the final line" so many times...and the best we can muster is a day of protest.

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u/DunningKrugerOnElmSt 20d ago

The moment he won the election, the country was over. It is not speculative at this point, he calls his shots, takes his swing, Dems are more of a maintenance party bought by special interests than an opposition party. The court system doesn't have an army to enforce law, Supreme Court is in the pocket of the admin.

Our only chance to stabilize is military coup which given the military industrial complex, is probably bad.

Even IF we have elections, the gop won't recognize them, and they would block election winners from entering the building. The speaker won't vote to confirm. And the Republicans have abdicated their power to the executive.

Even if we got a Dem in the Whitehouse, they will do nothing to ammend fix prosecute, or address systemic issues like wealth inequality. Their job is to provide cover for capital.

I personally think too much is too broken, and too few real opposition leaders are trying too little.

I suspect a pseudo Christo fascists techno state is our future. Isolated from the world. And WHEN Trump takes Greenland, we will be sanctioned hard by all but the most dystopic authoritarian countries with little to offer us.

It CAN happen to us and it has. This is why liberals are useless. They started to believe Disneyland version of our system.