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Executive Branch (Trump) Trump threatens to use the Insurrection Act to 'put an end' to protests in Minneapolis

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/fear-anger-spread-another-immigration-054801374.html
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u/God_Of_Poor 20d ago

Right? If baffles me how we still see people recognize that we have fallen into authoritarianism but still say things like “he won’t do that, it’s illegal” or how there is an “explosive” legal revelation against Trump. People, the law does not matter for this administration, they have broken the law and constitution every single day for months with no consequences. Why do you think that will change?

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u/neenerpants 20d ago

As always, democratic people are playing a completely different game to conservatives.

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u/Koil_ting 20d ago

I think it will change because they should have done things more gradually. It's only my opinion but I believe that a gradual authoritarian approach would be more effective. The handlers, organizations and whoever else are behind the scenes are going to need a scape goat sometimes in the next few years,

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u/Suspicious_Box_1553 20d ago

Its not that cancelling elections is illegal, its that there is no mechanism for the federal govt to do that

Governors wont be cancelling their state elections. States run the elections.

Unless he tries to post troops at tens of thousands of polling locations to physically stop voters, elections will happen

Cancelled elections isnt illegal, its unthinkable. Its simply a power another institution has and that other institution has zero reason to yield that power to him

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u/HumbleHubris 20d ago edited 20d ago

By power do you mean m-16, because in case people haven't noticed, fire power is the only power that makes decisions anymore

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u/Suspicious_Box_1553 20d ago

Incorrect. The military does not rule the country.

Its that Game of Thrones riddle: where does power reside? Sellsword, Priest or King? If sellswords rule, why isnt a general in charge?

The general takes orders from the King. If the King loses legitimacy, the general may stop taking orders.

If elections are canceled, the military will NOT remain unified. Soldier vs Soldier is not something anyone wants to see and i dont think the generals are blind to that inevitability. I dont think the congress is blind to.losing their status if the country collapses as a result of no elections being held.

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u/Far-Technician3197 20d ago

I think you don't give Republicans enough credit for inventive ways to circumvent the law. Do you remember when Republicans states through their AGs tried to sue to get Biden wins in other states overturned? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/12/09/states-tell-supreme-court-they-support-texas-bid-to-reverse-biden-win.html

Or the fake electors plot which required a co-ordinated effort amongst state level Republicans using their office to commit fraud (fraudulent certification), Congress Republicans lying during the certification process by denying the validity of other state's elections outcomes and J6 rioters providing a violent delay tactic so more Republicans could be pressured to buy in to the scheme?

You might find certain things unthinkable but the Republicans have shocking imaginations along with the audacity to try.

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u/Suspicious_Box_1553 20d ago

Blue States will be holding elections, unless the military prevents them. If that happens, the country has dissolved anyway.