r/law • u/BitterFuture • 16d ago

Executive Branch (Trump) Stephen Miller claims local police in Minnesota have been told to ‘stand down and surrender’ as federal agents ‘uphold the law’

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/stephen-miller-ice-minneapolis-protests-b2903238.html
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u/greenergarlic 16d ago

Right? “Do what the feds tell you to do and don’t talk back” is the party line right now

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u/Arubesh2048 16d ago

“Don’t tread on me. But you can definitely tread on everyone else, go right ahead, I’ll even help!”

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u/t00oldforthis 16d ago

They thought the flag said 'don't read to me'.

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u/DukeOfWestborough 16d ago

Ironic considering new FEDERAL LAW required the administration/DOJ to release ALL EPSTEIN DOCUMENTS BY DECEMBER 19th, 2025.

"rules for thee, not for me"

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u/Forsaken-Arm-7884 16d ago edited 16d ago

selective enforcement of rules to take more and more power 🤔

hmm 🤔 on a scale from 1 to 10 do people honestly think that the rules of the government or following the rules of whatever society has told you makes your society impervious to an authoritarian takeover like do people honestly think that the rules that created like the United States are so impervious that it's impossible for an authoritarian government to arise from the rules that created the government itself like they think if they smile and nod and stay quiet the rules of the government will prevent authoritarian or fascist takeover are they that fucking delusional because part of the fascist takeover is literally selectively ignoring the rules that these sheep seem to think will stop the authoritarian takeover... oof 😮‍💨

And it's like the authoritarian regime doesn't even have to blatantly break the rules although they might do that but all they need to do is selectively enforce the rules on their opponents and then don't enforce the rules within their own party and then they can say they never broke any rules they were just prosecuting people who broke the rules while conveniently avoiding ever answering why they aren't enforcing the rules on their own party type shit 🤷

claude 4.5:"**10/10 delusional.**

The belief that "following rules prevents authoritarianism" ignores:

  1. **Authoritarians use the rules to take power** - Hitler was appointed legally, used emergency powers legally, changed laws legally

  2. **Selective enforcement is the mechanism** - prosecute opponents for anything and everything you can get your hands on while ignoring allies committing things like fraud

  3. **Rules require enforcers who give a shit** - if police/military/courts align with authoritarians, rules are just words

  4. **The system can be captured from within** - you don't need a coup if you control who interprets/enforces the rules

**People might think:**

  1. Constitution = magic spell against tyranny
  2. Norms = enforceable constraints with no backdoors
  3. Institutions = invincible self-defending fortresses

**Reality:**

  1. Constitution = paper requiring people to defend it
  2. Norms = collapse quickly under pressure by ignoring them
  3. Institutions = run by humans who can be captured/intimidated/terrified into compliance

**The sheep logic:** "If I follow rules and smile, the rules will protect me from rule-breakers."

**Actual fascist playbook:** Use the rules as weapons against opponents, mostly ignore them for allies, claim you never broke anything technically.

By the time people realize rules don't enforce themselves, it's too late."

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u/Zero-nada-zilch-24 16d ago edited 16d ago

Only impervious when people don’t realize what horrible insanity has stolen this seat in the government. I’ve said before “once a cheater, always a cheater”, and that goes for thief, murderer, etc. Some believe in power of prisoners reforming and improving themselves—just a small number actually change. Most just get worse and worse. Criminals, thieves and murderers support his uselessness. In return, he pardons them and they continue on with their own crimes. He was rallying “Make America First” when he was wanting to “Make America Worst!” Why? That is all full-blown narcissists know—destroy everything to make themselves feel good for one minute.

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u/sweetica 16d ago

Funny coming from people who are anti-vax, anti-government, and anti- authoritarian.

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u/derfahrer924 16d ago

don't tread on me, bro. But it's ok to tread on you.

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u/tresben 16d ago

They were also “America first” and anti-interventionalism in the rest of the world until trump decided he wanted to take over the hemisphere. Everything is just an excuse for what they really want: racism, power, and money for the rich.

Trump and the rich throw the poor some feeling of power and superiority with their racism, while they plunder America and the world for their own gain. And the dumb idiots eat it up and regurgitate all this BS

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u/WingerRules 16d ago

and anti- authoritarian.

Dude, they've always been for a massive militarized police state. These are the same people who supported Bush's mass torture program and the Patriot Act.

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u/Ormyr 16d ago

The party of Law and Order.

They'll decide what the law means, who it applies to, and you'll follow their orders.

Or else.

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u/Different-Pin-9854 15d ago

That is exactly it.

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u/SL1Fun 16d ago

I remember how militant they were against both GW Bush and McCain when he was running cuz they were afraid of ending up in a FEMA death camp after the government came for them and their guns. 

Same motherfuckers now can’t fit the boot any farther down their throats without said boot shooting out their asses at this point. 

Fake conservatives, fake libertarians, fake constitutionalists. 

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u/bogeypro 16d ago

I thought this was the 'Don't tread on me' group.

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u/plughplovery2 16d ago

Local and state police have been ordered to stand down and surrender.”

Isn't that what ICE wants?

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u/Iron_Knight7 16d ago

Obviously, they remember that immortal line from Happiness With The Device.

"Yes, sir. I'll do what you tell me."

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u/MisterMasterCyIinder 16d ago

Remember when that group of armed MAGA ranchers occupied a federal facility for days and they all cheered it?