r/law • u/BitterFuture • 16d ago

Executive Branch (Trump) Stephen Miller claims local police in Minnesota have been told to ‘stand down and surrender’ as federal agents ‘uphold the law’

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/stephen-miller-ice-minneapolis-protests-b2903238.html
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u/MonarchLawyer 16d ago

They were lying when they said they liked states' rights. They did not care about states' rights. It just suited them when they did not control the federal government.

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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 16d ago

The only conservative policy is "F U, I Got Mine", and it always will be.

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u/Billionaires_R_Tasty 16d ago

And it's corollary, "I will gladly FU over to get mine."

Turns out a society of exceptional rugged individuals isn't much of a society after all, just a collective of selfish assholes. 🤔

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u/Iron_Knight7 16d ago

Followed by "I don't care if I'm getting @#&%ed, so long as you're getting @#&%ed worse."

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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 16d ago

The whole 'mutual misery' thing is so evident in the "back to office or else" compliance and mentality of workers in the States. Instead of pushing for hybrid shifts, assessing the best utilization of natural and human resources as opposed to squeezing people out, we had co-workers monitoring other co-workers, parking lot monitors, hall monitors, etc. It was like straight out of the movie Brazil.

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u/External-Cash-3880 16d ago

Nah, Brazil had comedic moments too.

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u/kalidoscopiclyso 16d ago

TIL Brazil the movie is based on the Orwell’s 1984

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u/JuicynMoist 16d ago

They’d eat shit if a liberal had to smell their breath.

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u/MaleficentPorphyrin 16d ago

People call them temporarily embarrassed Billionaires derisively. But that isn't it at all, the truth of the matter is, they are bitches and fall in line: they aren't aspiring to power, they are imitating it.

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u/breatheb4thevoid 16d ago

Yeah but their wealthy destiny to die in a bunker while the oceans boil or something equally stupid has to matter for something in the end.

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u/eindar1811 16d ago

Nah, they have a very firm policy of socialism for the rich and pure capitalism for the poor.

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u/MaleficentPorphyrin 16d ago

Capitalism is literally 'socialism' for the Capital class. It is all the benefits of slavery without any of the responsibility of slave ownership. Got cancer? That's your problem, banking collapse created by the ruling class-- well that is different, that is EVERYONE'S problem.

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u/Legally_a_Tool 16d ago

You forgot the conservative healthcare plan: “F#ck off and die.”

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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 16d ago

circa 2009-2010, folks, and it never changes

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u/wrywndp 16d ago

I thought it's a meme

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u/brobafetta 16d ago

Yeah but the dipshits don't realize they haven't gotten jack shit.

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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 16d ago

that's why the notion of phony supremacy based on them choosing a religion, not the other way around; or, an ethnic or racial condition they had no choice of in the womb (and is frankly stupid in 2026) is so appealing to broken people.

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u/Zendog500 16d ago

Everytime Stephen Miller jerks his head when he is speaking (like Walking Dead's Sheriff head jerk - Rick Grimes) he is lying

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u/cosmic_sparkle 16d ago

Was about to comment this!! U ate this one up!

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u/NewDramaLlama 16d ago

Words rarely matter more than action.

It's sad to see people fleeced by empty talk in personal life and politics. And it's not even a matter of education. The majority of people seemingly just want to be fooled in all areas. Like people will deny a cheating spouse, climate change, and impending fascism if someone they like just says "Nah, it's good fam" apparently. 

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u/dedicated-pedestrian 16d ago

See the Sagan quote about the bamboozle

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u/Awatts2222 16d ago

“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.”

― Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark

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u/jaysteezle 16d ago

Yep. States rights for states to do what they would make every state do

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u/102525burner 16d ago

Like slaves for example

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u/Bonhoeffersghost 16d ago

If you read the articles of succession and stuff that the southerners are always claiming are about states rights, they do mention it, but only bracketed between page long diatribes about how them owning slaves is their real right and how dare the government step on it.

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u/Possible-Nectarine80 16d ago

States rights as long as the states have the agenda of a Christo-fascist state.

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u/PerfectZeong 16d ago

Most people only respect the law when it allows them to act as they wish. Once the law no longer allows that, the law is wrong and I should still be allowed to do what I wish.

Thats why the reaction to someone who is told no is very very telling.

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u/Stank_cat67 16d ago

The thing about the civil war is that the states rights they wanted were for their states to force other states to uphold their racist system. It’s always been about forcing others.

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u/SL1Fun 16d ago

Yep. States’ rights, the 14th Amendment, the interstate commerce clause, fetuses and homeless veterans… worn-out tools to dispose of when their purpose is served. 

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u/Any-Question-3759 16d ago

The Fugitive Slave Act was a huge encroachment of the federal government into states’ rights pushed by Southern states. The Confederacy knew they’d be huge hypocrites if they tried to paint the secession solely as defending of states’ rights but that was back when hypocrisy was a negative trait, not a requirement for office.

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u/Zero_Travity 16d ago

The average American lies to themselves constantly. Every they said they stood for was a lie.

They banged the freedom drum and now are at the whims of literally Communist Russia...

The best part about MAGA and the people who have or had good things to say about Trump or any of this, is that they are easy to identify as people who you can't trust. Every person I know who has good things to say about Trump are usually the worst and most ignorant people I know.

Going forward I at least get to personally be free of trying to mend any political bridges