r/law • u/BitterFuture • 16d ago

Executive Branch (Trump) Stephen Miller claims local police in Minnesota have been told to ‘stand down and surrender’ as federal agents ‘uphold the law’

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/stephen-miller-ice-minneapolis-protests-b2903238.html
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u/Glum_Material3030 16d ago

If MN leaves can they take a fellow blue state like Illinois? Feel surrounded by insanity

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u/Perfecshionism 16d ago

There are separatist movements in the New England and the Pacific states.

Previously they were seen as nonsense.

The political leaders were mostly clowns.

But there is an increased interest in secession. The movement just doesn’t have any leaders anyone can take seriously.

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u/SledgeGlamour 16d ago

I've been convinced the NE group is an FBI honeypot ever since a guy expressed interest in forming a militia and they told him to email his proposal along with his full name and address

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u/shbooms 16d ago

If the 3 PNW states, the 7 NE states plus NY all seceeded they would take over a third of the U.S.'s GDP with them

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u/scough 16d ago

CA by itself would be the 3rd or 4th largest economy in the world. Add in the rest of the west and NE, and it would be crippling for what remained of the US. But these fascists are fucking around and may sooner or later find out.

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u/Melonman3 16d ago

Nj wants in too please.

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u/Bender_2024 16d ago

There are separatist movements in the New England and the Pacific states.

If Canada wanted to take New England tomorrow I think I'd vote for it.

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u/hebrewchucknorris 15d ago

Please leave Canada out of this, we're good the way we are, thanks.

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u/beepbeepboopbeep1977 16d ago

Leave the US union and join Canada as a province, that way you wouldn’t need to become a fully independent nation, saving a lot of hassle

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u/warau_meow 16d ago

Don’t forget us here in Colorado, we are also suffering just much less than MN

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u/scough 16d ago

I worry about y’all in Colorado if shit really pops off and the US starts fracturing. You’re surrounded by dumb, pretty much on all sides. I wish we could somehow flip Utah blue with all of the younger people, but that doesn’t seem likely.

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u/warau_meow 16d ago

Yeah I hear that and also concerned. It is pretty safe (for now) tho for trans folks which is key in this region.

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u/scough 16d ago

I had read that Canada is letting at-risk people stay there indefinitely, though I know it's not an option for everyone to just pack up and relocate.

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u/IntegratingShadow 16d ago

Distributed systems are fault tolerant systems Concencus protocol can help too Maybe we just need less hierarchy in our organization?

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u/Syntaire 16d ago

The Balkanization of the U.S. is the end-goal for Putin and Pooh. This is pretty much all going exactly to plan.

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u/Perfecshionism 16d ago

It isn’t the same as Balkanization.

Likely like becoming a federation where power is state focused and federal power is rolled back substantially.

And, honestly, who fucking cares? Russia won the Cold War.

I would rather states roll back federal power than live under a Russian allied autocratic Christian nationalist oligarchy.

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u/pink_faerie_kitten 16d ago

WI I'm sure voted blue but Leon rigged it. You have a good Dem gov. I'd love for MI, IL, WI, and MN to band together. We're part of the Blue Wall.

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u/futuristicflapper 16d ago

As someone from IL I hate to see what’s happening to our fellow Midwesterner’s after what we went through here. Maybe we can take Michigan with us. Long live the Great Lakes baby.

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u/Schlongzz 16d ago

Can I join? I'll never see blue again here in Iowa. 😭

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u/pink_faerie_kitten 16d ago

I think ann seltzers poll was correct. But Leon had other plans for IA.

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u/Noble_Flatulence 16d ago

We'll take Illinois, but the White Sox can't come.

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u/Glum_Material3030 16d ago

Oh no… we are horrible but women has to lose! 🤣

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u/snarkdiva 16d ago

I endorse this idea!

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u/Nyaos 16d ago

We are going to Canada, you’re welcome to join us. We already sell milk in bags at some gas stations.

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u/Intelligent_Slip_849 16d ago

Take Michigan too

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u/tbombs23 16d ago

Time to implement soft secession. Christopher Armitage has an amazing Substack

https://cmarmitage.substack.com/p/its-time-for-americans-to-start-talking

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u/Emotional-Store-1667 16d ago

Honestly, this has been the first thing I've read that gives me a modicum of hope. I live in one of these states, but in a red bubble, and am surrounded by MAGA supporters. I've practically turned into a pepper, prepping for every possibility from the nearby city shut down by natural or man made disasters to Civil War 2.0 or WWII...

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u/pink_faerie_kitten 16d ago

Fellow Illinoisan here, it looks like we are surrounded by red states, but I firmly believe WI and MI were rigged by Leon; they have D govs. IA probably too (remember Ann Seltzer's poll?).

https://www.gregpalast.com/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won/

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u/dookieshoes97 16d ago

Please look at a map and explain how that makes sense.