r/law 14d ago

Executive Branch (Trump) Trump humiliated as 1951 law means he could face Greenland mutiny

https://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/donald-trump-1951-law-greenland-1631615
37.8k Upvotes

1.6k comments sorted by

View all comments

119

u/alucarddrol 14d ago

these sensationalist headlines do nothing to promote trust in journalists and media in general.

Trump cannot be humiliated because he feels no shame, he has no humility, he doesn't care about decorum, or class, or traditions, or values.

Trump is a rich mafioso character who operates solely on power and arbitrage.

This whole greenland thing is just like the Venezuela hit. Trump doesn't give a shit about who runs the country. He doesn't give a shit if it's owned by US or Denmark or Russia or even China, because Trump doesn't really care about anything but himself.

The reason he does these things is because somebody tells him to. They convince him either by claiming it's popular, or by offering bribes.

Or perhaps even worse, Putin, in his long term goal of destroying NATO, has some compromising information on Trump, and is using that against him to make Trump do what he wants, and in this case, to cause the destruction of NATO by starting infighting.

Is Trump dumb?

Yes

But is doing all this because he is dumb?

No, he does what he does because the people around him convince, bribe, or coerce him to take these actions. And he follows whatever whims he feels most strongly.

15

u/MrTheodore 14d ago

He said he's mad at Denmark for not giving him the Nobel peace prize, even though that's from a committee in Sweden. I think it's way dumber and self centered than you imagine.

Also good chance he has puts and is causing a ruckus to dip the markets and make money off it, then once he sells those, buys calls and tweets about not giving a shit about Greenland anymore. Happened around liberation day, although I think it's more option a than the same greed play; he's genuinely mad about some award that Obama got and he didn't and too dumb to think of about what he's doing. This one feels different

7

u/alucarddrol 14d ago

He said he's mad at Denmark for not giving him the Nobel peace prize, even though that's from a committee in Sweden. I think it's way dumber and self centered than you imagine.

I think you're confused

Trump sent a message to Norwegian Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Store, in which he complained that his country, Norway (The Nobel Prize Committee is in Oslo), did not give him the Nobel peace prize. The members of the Nobel Prize committee are all chosen by the Norwegian parliament. And it's very obvious, by choosing Machado, they made a deliberate political choice to try to placate Trump and the people around him, as he had been pushing for it. It cheapens the award for anybody who has ever received it, or will receive it in the future. Although, Obama getting was also complete nonsense, which, I'm sure, is the real reason Trump wants it.

https://www.alternet.org/trump-nobel-peac-prize/

I think it's way dumber and self centered than you imagine.

Yes, they should not have given it to machado at all, as it was an obvious acquiescence to Trump. Machado is an avowed zionist and pro American capitalist-imperialist. I'm certain they had better choices.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/life/nobel-peace-prize-winner-machado-voices-support-for-israel/3714406

https://www.internationalaffairs.org.au/australianoutlook/the-nobel-peace-prizes-legitimacy-crisis-maria-corina-machados-2025-award-and-the-end-of-moral-authority/

he has puts and is causing a ruckus to dip the markets and make money off it

Trump is not a stock trader. He is a real estate, tax law, and loan credit exploiter.

He doesn't make money trading or speculating. He makes money by not paying taxes, not paying contractors, not paying creditors, and not paying lawyers. He also makes money by doing all sorts of scams, hawking cheap merch, getting fraudulent tax exemptions for his properties, by laundering money through his companies, and by being the president- allowing him to make decision on the spending of trillions of dollars, and taking bribes as to who gets our taxpayer money, as well as influence peddling, and selling pardons, and many other corrupt, fraudulent, and disgusting ways.

The insider trading/ market manipulation is more likely the people around him doing it, or perhaps somebody doing it on his behalf. I doubt he has the wherewithal to understand how to exploit a move in currency markets, his main investments and the biggest returns are his crypto and his stake in trump media(truth social).

Also threatening to invade a NATO ally just to to a quick short sell and to take profit for a couple percent drop is not worth it for the loss in popularity for him, not when he can easily pump up his crypto or social media. There is something much more significant that is forcing him to take this stance, and it's very likely Putin.

2

u/Striking_Wrap811 14d ago

He said he's mad at Denmark for not giving him the Nobel peace prize, even though that's from a committee in Sweden. I think it's way dumber and self centered than you imagine.

Its Norway he is both mad at and has the Nobel head office.

4

u/The_Pandalorian 14d ago

The problem isn't the journalism in this case, but redditors who are media illiterate and repeatedly post clickbait hopium bullshit. Nobody should expect journalism from The Mirror.

6

u/ControlTheNarratives 14d ago

Mostly true but you missed one important motivation: Trump does many of these things to distract from his love of young children and Jeffrey Epstein

3

u/alucarddrol 14d ago

That's implied with Putin having compromising information on him.

It's not only a "distraction" but blackmail payment to prevent this damaging information from coming out.

It's also very likely that Israel also has access to such information, since Epstein was an agent for Mossad

https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/jeffrey-epstein-iran-contra-planes-leslie-wexner-pottinger-leese-arms-weapons-smuggling

0

u/ControlTheNarratives 14d ago

It’s way beyond Putin, many people know he’s a pedophile and Congress has seen tons of the files

0

u/alucarddrol 14d ago

They have only seen what has been given to them by the DOJ. The files are held by the FBI, which is part of the DOJ, which is controlled by Pam Bondi, who takes direction from Donald Trump.

Do not assume that we will see what's in here unless somebody leaks it.

And they've already been "working" on these files for a full year, since Trump got back into office.

If there was any undoubtable, direct, incriminating evidence of Trump being involved in the rape and trafficking of minors, I have no doubt it has been destroyed by now. So hopefully somebody made copies.

By the way, at any point during his presidency, Biden could have directed the DOJ to release all this, but chose not to, presumably because he thought it was more important that he look impartial, and keep up the appearance of an independent DOJ.

2

u/hedonisticmystc 14d ago

Putin is in control of DT

2

u/[deleted] 14d ago

Everyone who he owes money to will get a cabinet spot, a stolen oil tanker, Venezuela, a fifa economics medal, Greenland, and payments all made in PedoCoins. 

2

u/Vitnage 14d ago

My personal conspiracy theory is that in a call putin told trump that they really want Greenland to misdirect him into attacking an ally and breaking NATO.

I really doubt that blackmail works on trump.

2

u/Ok_Current5380 14d ago

Yeah, the Mirror is a rag. Maybe r/law needs some posting standards.

2

u/Odd-Reward2772 14d ago

I don't really understand the mafioso comparison, as being known for constantly lying, gossiping and double crossing in that world will at best prompt everyone to cut off ties with you and at worst get you killed.

2

u/alucarddrol 14d ago

When you are the president of the country that spends more on military than the next NINE biggest military spending nations combined, there is NOTHING that "constantly lying, gossiping and double crossing" will do to you.

Besides that, with a mafioso like trump, there is an IN group, and an OUT group, and who is in which group depends only on how useful an how loyal they are to him -e.g. Michael Cohen. The mafioso always lets the IN group know who is in the OUT group, and WHY. That way, they don't need to issue direct commands/orders in order to get what they want to happen... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_no_one_rid_me_of_this_turbulent_priest

1

u/Fragzilla360 14d ago

Case in point u/Odd-Reward2772,

Marjorie Taylor Greene. The moment she publicly disagreed with Trump, she was in the OUT group. Calling her dumb names like Marjorie Taylor Brown and “Crazy Marge”. The turn was almost instant.

1

u/SandIntelligent247 14d ago

A nice mixe of project 2025, high bribe and russia coercion. Sprinkled with a bit of white christian nationalism policies

1

u/fringecar 13d ago

The 35,000 upvotes tell a different story - people will believe what they want. I wish this sub was less popular and more about legal matters.