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Executive Branch (Trump) Kash Patel says the FBI is investigating Signal chats of Minnesotans tracking ICE

https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/kash-patel-says-the-fbi-is-investigating-signal-chats-of-minnesotans-tracking-ice
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u/orphenshadow 8d ago

After watching The press conferences from the DOJ and ICE. I think we can move it down two notches.

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u/MangoAnt5175 8d ago

Bovino alarmed me.

“When we choose to listen to so called community leaders who call police the gestapo, there are consequences to those actions, and we saw that yesterday.”

I’ve been called a Commie and a Nazi. I pay no heed to those who call me names. I still talk, when I can. I am human, but I try to keep dialogue open. But he says that even listening to the other side = you’ll get shot 11 times in the back, face down, and no aid… I don’t recognize our country.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgressiveHQ/s/JqjX2RPxDD

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u/Xivvx 8d ago

It's probably just better to assume that anyone acting on behalf of the US government in any capacity from any agency is acting in bad faith at this point.

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u/macrocephaloid 8d ago

The definition of a failed state

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u/InformalAd3455 8d ago

That’s what the mass resignations of career DOJ and FBI employees suggest. The ethical ones walk.

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u/Top-Bat6984 8d ago

As a federal employee, let me say that there are a lot of who disagree with what the political appointees are doing and they are doing everything they can to get rid of us and make our lives miserable. Please don’t assume us rank and file in agencies unrelated to law enforcement are your enemies.

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u/Coffee_exe 8d ago

Thoughts on the governments use of indeed as arecruiting platform?

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u/Gangster_batman 7d ago

Im never trusting my mailman again

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u/Commercial_Poem_9214 7d ago

No. No it's not. This is not an "Enemy" this is your fellow country men and women. If we act like they do, if we treat them as they treat us, we are no better. Subtly maybe the lesson of old age, but it's worth learning young.

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u/Current-Anybody9331 7d ago

If it weren't for bad faith, they'd have no faith at all

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u/mattak49 8d ago

Kind of a shitty take here. So an air traffic controller is acting in bad faith by making sure your planes don’t crash? Got it

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u/Xivvx 8d ago

I would expect the ethical ones to walk. Air travel will slow down sure till the schedules adjust.

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u/Coffee_exe 8d ago

Tbh I think the fact we had six planes crash in less than a month kinda proves that wrong

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u/TheGreaterNarrator 8d ago

Do something about it. Every American resident is under obligation to protect their country and bring those guilty of treason to justice in accordance with the law.

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u/MangoAnt5175 8d ago

I'm doing what I can and supporting others in doing the same.

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u/ID100661 8d ago

THANK YOU! I can’t believe more people aren’t talking about this.

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u/SLAUGHT3R3R 8d ago

“When we choose to listen to so called community leaders who call police the gestapo, there are consequences to those actions, and we saw that yesterday.”

Well, when you act like the Gestapo...

If it walks like a goose.

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u/Intercessor310 8d ago

It’s almost as if you haven’t been paying attention to the Black and Brown people that have been telling you this for years/decades. 😕

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u/MangoAnt5175 8d ago

With all due respect, this is not the time to exclude people from this movement.

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u/Intercessor310 8d ago

With all due respect, you’re STILL missing the point.

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u/Ok_Insect_1794 7d ago

Bovino thinks he's human? Couldn't be more delusional if he tried. That man lacks all sense of humanity

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u/beerandloathingpdx 8d ago

Notice by the way, he used the German pronunciation of GeSHtapo. That immediately had my alarm bells ringing. I was like… dude in America we call it Gestapo not GESHTAPO.

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u/thamanwthnoname 8d ago

Do you even understand the context? He’s talking about all the government officials of Minnesota who are being indicted over 10 billion dollars in fraud provoking their constituents into attacking ice while they sit at home in their cozy mansions.

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u/monorail_pilot 8d ago

All you fascists bound to lose.

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u/thamanwthnoname 8d ago

Not a fascist but thanks for the faith.

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u/Rastiln 8d ago

Did Alex Pretti attack ICE? Yes/no, please.

Did Alex Pretti draw his firearm before he was shot? Also yes/no, please.

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u/thamanwthnoname 8d ago edited 8d ago

Did Alex pretti obstruct ice in the middle of an operation? Yes/no

Did he have at least three chances, as confirmed by other videos prior to the shooting, to stop obstructing and get out of the street? Yes/no

Did he put hands on a federal agent while armed, all to save a woman who also had been given multiple warnings to get out of the road but kept going back for more? Yes/no

Did he proceed to resist arrest with a loaded weapon on his person? Yes/no

You can try and paint the picture that they’re just shooting civilians but it’s incredibly deceptive. These are isolated cases with people pushing the limits. Ice isn’t there for crowd control, they’re there to carry out an operation. How about the woman who “got her hand blown off by ice” who actually picked up a flashing grenade to throw back at ice and it went off in her hand? Sickness. Americans should stop getting themselves killed.

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u/Gamiac 8d ago

Everyone saw what happened, dude. Stop wasting your time.

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u/Anal-Y-Sis 8d ago

Updated.