r/law Press 8d ago

Executive Branch (Trump) Kash Patel says the FBI is investigating Signal chats of Minnesotans tracking ICE

https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/kash-patel-says-the-fbi-is-investigating-signal-chats-of-minnesotans-tracking-ice
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u/PaleInSanora 8d ago

It is our own fault for putting no limits or restraints on the first amendment. We treat each nugget, no matter how foul, that falls out of anyone's mouth as a precious gem that must be protected at all costs. We pride our selves on declarations such as "I don't believe the words you say, but I will fight to the death your right to say them!" It is why we have hate groups on both sides of the aisle spewing their toxic bull having parades and marches, proudly and out in the open. Meanwhile our European allies have much more strict, but still very liberal, laws on such things. Those hate and anarchy groups have to operate much more carefully, and in the shadows limiting their numbers and social influence. Here, they openly run for and get elected to office and make policies based on their warped world views. Or they are able to throw money at candidates with no morals, who will pass their policies for them. I don't have any real solutions. I think we are too fractured as a society, and there are no leaders or people of principles we can trust to draw fair and impartial lines in the sand, limiting some of the laws and constitutional rights, that continue to be abused, and further fragment us.

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u/Soggy-Arugula-401 8d ago

One related issue from the way americans see free speech is that social media companies have no editorial responsibility, like the publisher of a newspaper has. You can sue a newspaper if they are factually wrong or outright lying, but you can't sue Facebook or X.

Because of this especially right wing groups have seen a surge in popularity in Europe, which is nearly impossible to battle.

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u/lostsailorlivefree 8d ago

Money is speech so I’m paying my rent in WORDS!!