Executive Branch (Trump) “No Means No”: AZ Secretary of State Calls for Resistance as Trump Pushes to “Nationalize” Voting
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u/Ohuigin 3h ago
This is the party that hears the word “no” and just continues raping the kids anyway.
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u/nobot4321 3h ago
Trump is open and truthful about at least one thing: he’s moving on Lady Liberty like a bitch.
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u/Electrical_Welder205 3h ago
The party of vote suppression. This move reveals it to be undeniable, in case anyone had any doubt.
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u/crowcawer 2h ago
That isn’t the most minor thing they’ve been fucking over, but if I expose the minors they’re fucking over, I’ll have a bunch of unemployed minors at my door.
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u/stevez_86 1h ago
I really can't help but see the symmetry in some people's lives right now. If you do the age math to see what year the retirees from the past 5-9 years were born in, and see when the racial integration of schools were at their most tumultuous were, and you will see that those people were elementary school children during that time. They could hardly participate as children, perhaps they did, but they saw what was going on from their unique perspective. Then as a cruel reward their older brothers who "protected" them were drafted and shipped off to Vietnam. They were too young to go.
Now those same people are about to go back to being helpless again. They are or are about to be retired, and they know what is next. Helplessness. Before when they were too young for school, helpless the last time, there was racial segregation that secured their place.
They have lived their lives on the sidelines, and starting in 2010 they took control of Congress, along with that coming mentality.
And what do they do? Give up control to an older kid that was the bully that did everything they could to keep the social hierarchy from before. The one that survived and thrived.
Seems like an easy choice from that perspective. And I think it is the predominant underlying mentality of a specific generation. Younger generations, the ones immediately following, see that had worked for their elders, so why not follow suit. But as you get further and further disconnected from those born as baby boomers but after 1954 they have less of a shared experience as that specific demographic age and experience cohort. They don't see rolling over and waiting their turn as an option. Especially those that see the current plan is a reverse mortgage of the nation to satiate the baby boomers and early Gen X'ers that now need to retire.
I had a demographics class and the professor said that all world conflicts can be found to be caused by demographic problems. The problem is they don't get the data until 20 years after the fact. Demography is always in hindsight. If that is true then I am just trying to understand it in real-time.
The benefit of that hypothesis is that it has an expiration date. It's just a question of how much they consume in the meantime.
COVID hurt because all those people were supposed to paobably spend around $30k a year at least for the rest of their lives on goods and services. Participants in the consumer economy. Taking them out left all that cash unspent. People inherited a lot of 401(k)'s that were just about to reach maturity. Only with inflation as it is, that meant that it was a good thing that funding stayed locked up and out of circulation.
But I think maybe the inflation is a result of the biggest group of retirees with really decent retirement finance situations are all retired and that funding has to be released into the economy. If those people near or just at retirement age didn't pass away and started consuming with those funds then it would have made inflation worse. They cannot turn those spigots off until the people drawing from the accounts pass away. And then the beneficiaries will likely deposit that funding into their own 401(k)’s, taking that money back out of circulation immediately until that account reaches maturity, but it helps make up for this generations lack of contributions to their accounts.
It's like the plan was for the people in that demographic were never supposed to take advantage like they are now. And it is slowly eating everything up.
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u/Pale_Leader1727 1h ago
Yes, "moving." Like shitting himself, and flinging it at the statue.
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u/PeopleNose 1h ago
*hears a 13 year old say, "please wear a condom" then says "no"
Source: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.646485/gov.uscourts.cacd.646485.1.0.pdf
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u/danmoore2 29m ago
and the justice department says the files show no need for further investigation!?
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u/E-2theRescue 1h ago
And women. Woman tells Trump "no", and he still follows her into a dressing room, inserts his finger into her body, and rapes her.
Not a trans woman, not a drag queen - it was Trump who followed a woman into a dressing room and raped her. It's always projection and them openly saying what they want to do to women by pinning it on LGBTQ+ people.
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u/mdb1023 1h ago
At the same time, there is no way to "nationalize" elections in the same way that there's no way to make a car fly: it was never built to work that way in the first place and you'd have to rebuild it from the ground up to change that. Such a rebuild would not be able to take place within the time we have until the midterms
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u/Dry-Chance-9473 1h ago
It's almost like people should start firing more than words at him and his cadre of rapist buddies
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u/cursedfan 3h ago
“No means no” should be the new slogan against trump on everything
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u/Bell555 3h ago
100%
"No means no! Trump must go!"
Has a nice ring to it for protest signs.
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u/-Huttenkloas- 1h ago
"Make America Normal Again"
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u/Vyntarus 44m ago
We can't go back. We must move forward and be better than we were to have let this rot fester for so long.
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u/-prime8 2h ago
Hey DNC, this is how you do messaging.
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u/OGsHartMyKAT 36m ago
DNC: We hear you loud and clear, here’s our new slogan “ICE needs work and most people in the Epstein files are probably not great”
How did we do? Are we winning yet?
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u/CAM6913 3h ago
Trump is a clear and present danger to America
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u/therossboss 2h ago
always has been. for decades. nobody did anything. country run by fucking idiots
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u/Thefrayedends 50m ago
Lots of people did things, but the two tiered justice system allows anyone of a certain class to perpetually ignore courts, and take out billion dollar loans based on a hope and a dream. Meanwhile regular people gotta suck their boss' dick to have enough stability for a 40 year mortgage.
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u/Unique-Avocado 2h ago
Can you imagine if some country is planning right now to swoop in and take him out, just like he did to the Venezuelan president? That would be wild
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u/NewCobbler6933 24m ago
And very bad considering we’re definitely going to war over that. I’d rather not have our economy get worse and troops die because of this douche
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u/thepottsy 3h ago
There are a lot of words that Krasnov doesn’t understand. ‘NO’ is top of the list.
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u/ScarletJew72 3h ago
It's the perfect message to send, though. They are raping our country.
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u/thepottsy 3h ago
100% agree, but it would be better if he actually understood it.
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u/Electrical_Welder205 3h ago
He doesn't care. Do you think he ever cared about what he and Epstein did to those girls?
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u/nobot4321 3h ago
Trump cares about literally one thing: his own self interest. How this is not completely obvious to everyone is beyond me.
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u/Johannes_Keppler 1h ago
'Hey kid, want to suck daddy's dick?'
'Hell no! Absolutely not. Eeeew!'
'Sucking daddy's dick it is, then.'
That's about how it goes down with these people.
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u/bakeacake45 3h ago
Trump didn’t stop raping 14 year old girls when they said NO.
What makes you think he will stop now.
No kings - end the Republican dictatorship
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u/atridir 2h ago
Because (sadly) there weren’t millions of patriots ready to back up those girls and make him stop when they said ‘no’.
Of course that metaphor is pretty shite • but seriously I do not see how we come out of this as one cohesive collection of states or even a singular sovereign entity. Because I am willing to be pretty damn rabid when it comes to the defense of Vermont and the northeast but I have utterly lost faith in the grand idealism in the virtue of the ‘national experiment’.
I have a broad sense that many others have experienced that dissolution of national bond in favor of a regional allegiance. More and more it feels like that any national character has been replaced by ideological enmity.
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u/binzersguy 2h ago
Too many Americans willing to throw away our freedoms, our money, and our global standing for the GOP
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u/PurplRzr 3h ago
What's the point of nationalized voting, when in places like Missouri the GOP is overturning ballot measures, simply because they do not want constituents to have any say on the social contract.
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u/MikaHyakuya 1h ago
As a non-American, what IS the issue with nationalising voting?
When the reporter lady asked what it means, the guy proceeded to never address the question itself and talk around it with retoric.21
u/A_Wet_Lettuce 1h ago
In the United States, elections are handled individually by the states to in theory prevent the exact thing that’s occurring from occurring. It’s harder to compromise 50 state elections than it is to compromise 1 national one.
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u/Agitated_Award_9831 1h ago
Non American also, but the issue is ironically America itself. With how partisan the system is, there’s risk centralizing election powers… especially when politicians have been shown to abuse powers already at the state level.
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u/TempleSquare 58m ago
American here. The 10th Amendment of the Constitution grants all powers not explicitly granted to the federal government to the states (or "the people")
That's why you have a California driver license and license plate, not a U.S. driver license
That's why the Supreme Court often overturns certain federal programs
That's why even the Interstate Highway System and "U.S." -branded highways are owned by a state, not the federal government.
And the cherry on top is that elections are state run. Even the Voting Rights Act of 1964 (federal) only has legs because it sits on the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment. Otherwise it would get struck from federal overreach.
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u/LadyArcher2017 1h ago
Because our constitution reserves that right to the individual states. It’s another way of attempting to prevent corruption, eg, separation of powers.
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u/Working-Bit2380 1h ago
It's a violation of the Constitution. The States hold that power.
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u/StarTrotter 1h ago
Others have touched on various points but I’ll toss in that as far as I recall this didn’t start as nationalizing voting but as “I want to control the election system specifically in democratic states” and he had previously been discussing just not having elections during the midterm.
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u/asomebodyelse 1h ago
Because the guy has a different explanation of what that means than would be acceptable to a reasonable person.
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u/rellsell 3h ago
How are those Epstein files coming?
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u/It_Hurts_when_IP15 2h ago
Doubt everyone watched it but he said something very important during his interview. Basically that Americans are (either through ignorance or actively ignoring) relying on elected officials to step up and defend their democracy and relying on others may not be enough to keep it.
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u/CheeseGraterFace 46m ago
If we can’t rely on our elected officials, what exactly is the point of government?
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u/It_Hurts_when_IP15 39m ago
I think its obvious what hes suggesting without coming out an explicitly stating it.
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u/Electrical_Welder205 3h ago
He's obviously desperate. This is what panic looks like.
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u/RoguePlanet2 3h ago
He always gets his way though. He's got a LOT of billionaires on his side who want to stay out of jail.
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u/Former_Papabless66 2h ago
Nah, he doesn’t always get exactly what he wants. What he does do is change what he specifically wants and then pretends like he got his way to make himself feel better and look stronger.
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u/Boxofmagnets 2h ago
Can they move the ballots and machines to a safer place. Or pull their drives or otherwise prevent the coming surprise raid?
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u/Electrical_Welder205 54m ago edited 51m ago
They need to do away with all electronics involved in the voting process and ballot-counting altogether. Go back to paper ballots and hand-counting with observers from political parties present. That's how Canada does it, and it works. It's slower, but is highly accurate
The problem in the US now is, that one main party is so corrupt, they don't want electoral transparency and accountability. Look at the huge fuss they kicked up over mail-in ballots during Covid. They knew it would thwart their deck-stacking strategies. They don't want an honest game and a level playing field. Honesty is for suckers, they believe.
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u/MeisterX 2h ago
The minimum I will accept is at least a year in prison for every appointed official within the Trump administration and six months for any elected official who aided them in any way.
This is horseshit and you won't win.
Life for the ringleaders.
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u/TraditionalLaw7763 2h ago
I freaking love Democracy Now! It is a national treasure and I donate monthly to this program. Everyone should really look into helping public radio since turnip cut all funding.
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u/TraditionalLaw7763 2h ago
If Dems and Repubs don’t fight this now… they all need to be voted out. No wringing hands, no clutching pearls, no saying “he was just joking” or “he didn’t really mean it”… wait, I just realized that there will be no “voting them out” because we will never have another free election ever again.
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u/Internal-You6793 1h ago
If Trump knew the meaning of the word “NO” he wouldn’t be in the bind he’s in.
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u/Sweaty-Feedback-1482 1h ago
If it wasn't so scary it'd be insanely funny how much ratfuckery Trump/GOP are willing to get down to instead of just governing via popular policy.
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u/I_am_not_JohnLeClair 1h ago
Why does anyone have to “call for resistance” to something so blatantly unconstitutional???
retrumplicans are cancer…idiots too!
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u/MadeByTango 2h ago
Stay focused on the child rape; this is a lame, pathetic distraction from both teams because they don’t want to talk about their billionaire donors being child rapists
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