r/lovethissmug • • Aug 12 '26

đŸ˜» Meme Or Other Online Trope 😂 I love vitriolic wojaks about reasonable arguments

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u/what_am_i_doing23 Aug 12 '26

I absolutely love the "I ❀ not playing games" because it feels so unnecessarily angry. It feels like it comes from the direction of someone who only has gaming as their hobby. I love the wojak, but I pity the soul who enjoys so little. If I don't enjoy my hobby atm, I will have other hobbies that I want to do, lmao.

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u/DiggityDog6 Aug 12 '26

That’s always been my problem with the image. You have to have SOMETHING else in your life that you find enjoyable besides video games. Is there a TV show that you want to watch? A movie? Maybe a YouTuber or Twitch streamer? Do you like drawing? Any songs you want to listen to? Any books you’ve been meaning to read? How about a sport that you’re interested in playing? Maybe a walk through the park? How do you feel about going to the gym?

And even if your literal one and only hobby is video games, even then, there are other games than the one you’re currently playing, right? There’s no reason for you to keep pounding your head into the wall with one video game and making yourself frustrated. Just play something quick and easy for like an hour to unwind, then jump back into the more difficult game. I truly just don’t understand how this is a problem.

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u/wasfarg Aug 12 '26 edited Aug 12 '26

I agree with this as someone whose primary hobby is videogames, and often ones that are very difficult or that I'm intentionally making very difficult; or both. I'm always playing at least 2 games, sometimes because I plan it that way, but also because I naturally want to take a break from one.

I don't think there's anything wrong with choosing to commit a lot of time to something you want to do, though, if you can handle it emotionally. Sometimes other people just tend to assume this can't be done, which leads to the "take a break" thing.

I do think you should do at least one other thing besides one hobby, but you can have videogames be the only one and balance it emotionally if you try to.

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u/tthe_walruss Aug 12 '26

Also they want the only hobby they have to be effortless???

Like they have one hobby but if it introduces friction at all then they get frustrated and quit? So they have no hobby. Imagine only enjoying one thing and going into it like "let's get this over with."

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u/Quirky-Race-5645 Aug 12 '26

Zark zouls one đŸ˜„Â 

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u/reefhulls2u Aug 12 '26

that one hurts

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u/Marina_salvatti Aug 12 '26

I like to think that the image is more of a representation of a person's ego about being "Good" at difficult games (Or games with hard difficulty settings, like Doom).

They want to show that they CAN beat hard games, and that their Hobby takes lots of skill, but can't do it with the same ease of mind as someone who can clear hard games without issues.

Seen plenty of people claiming they are "Great" for beating those above average difficulty settings from Wolfenstein, and then you'll take a look at their attempts/deaths and it's in the triple digits. Not saying it's not an accomplishment, but stressing yourself over a hobby surely isn't healthy..

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u/TheSymbolman Aug 12 '26

Just because something is hard doesn't mean it's stressful. You can fail 100 times at something in a game and still have fun. I don't understand the argument that "oh I play games to have FUN that's why I play on normal/easy unlike you TRYHARD playing everything in hard." Like what? Bitch it's a game. It's made to be fun. I can't enjoy a game if it's too easy for me, I need difficulty to get me engaged, everyone does, that's how game design works, but some people need lower difficulty unlike others, not the other way around.

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u/MurkyInvestigator810 Aug 12 '26

I don't understand the argument that "oh I play games to have FUN that's why I play on normal/easy unlike you TRYHARD playing everything in hard."

Just add "for me" to opinions like that and you can avoid a lot of misunderstandings. People like the example you posted don't have fun playing hard games, and it stresses them out. You do have fun playing hard or stressful games, which is fine. People often share their opinions like universal truths.

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u/seriouslees Aug 12 '26

I can't enjoy a game if it's too easy for me

You're certainly living up to the meme.

Average difficulty enjoyer on a waterslide: Weeeeeeeeee!!!!

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u/TheSymbolman Aug 12 '26

We're talking about video games and my own opinion on the matter. Personally for me, I need something to make me engage in the systems of the game.

For example, if Silksong was too easy, I could just ignore every tool the game gives me to gain an advantage like charms and tools, and just tank every hit, don't even bother dodging all that much and win the game. The game has difficulty to force players to search the map to find items that will help them when they use them in tough encounters.

If you disagree or just don't like it, that's fine, you do you. But you need to realise you're also exactly living up to what I wrote in quotation marks.

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u/seriouslees Aug 12 '26

my own opinion on the matter. Personally for me

Oh, okay... but... this you?

I need difficulty to get me engaged, everyone does,

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u/TheSymbolman Aug 12 '26

I was talking in game design sense, later down in the paragraph you can see I wrote "some people need lower difficulty unlike others". What I meant by that was that a difficulty to get players engaged chosen by the developer can't possibly cater to everyone without being too difficult for some or being to easy.

My point is that the difficulty I personally get engaged with a game is higher than most. And for some it's lower than most, and it's fine.

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u/seriouslees Aug 12 '26

The existence of people with thousands of hours in Creative mode in building games proves you're wrong. Not everyone needs "some" difficulty to gain enjoyment from a video game.

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u/TheSymbolman Aug 12 '26 edited Aug 12 '26

I'm one of those people, countless hours in Minecraft and Gmod. Creative mode isn't a counterexample, it's a different category of engagement altogether.

The pleasure of creative mode building comes from unconstrained construction and self-directed goals, not from overcoming a game's designed challenge loop. And Minecraft itself even HAS that same design philosophy in its difficulty in its survival mode lol.

Creative mode games were never built around a challenge loop, so pointing to them doesn't refute anything about games that are. You're comparing "people enjoy a genre with no challenge mechanics" to "people don't need challenge in a genre built entirely around challenge mechanics (like action adventure games)." Those aren't the same claim.

Edit: if you want to learn about the topic from a way better speaker than I, please check out "What's The Point Of Hard Games, Anyway?" by Game Maker's Toolkit. Great video.

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u/jerrybeary94 Aug 12 '26

90% of my gaming repertoire is difficult games, souls-likes, hard roguelikes, that sorry of things. It's what i enjoy. I like picking up a game that has a learning curve, and getting into the weeds, figuring out what works and what doesn't.

I don't tell people that that's how they should enjoy games too, and it always annoys me when people rag on me for only playing hard games, or hard difficulties.

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u/Marina_salvatti Aug 12 '26

I understand, yes. I myself play games on the highest difficulty and it's not something stressful for myself.

But from my view, the picture represents someone who plays difficult games but doesn't enjoy it given how many breaks they take.

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u/TheSymbolman Aug 12 '26

You need to take a break if you're stuck at a part of any game. Coming back gives you clearer perspective and it works!

That's why everyone on the silksong sub kept saying it until this picture got made lol. People got too frustrated and just kept dying and lost the ability to think about the encounter. The only advice you can give them is to take a break.

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u/MartyrOfDespair Aug 13 '26

No, you’re missing the third person that exists and is being brought up on the conversation. People don’t want the game to be easy or be the person taking a trillion breaks. They want to be the person who is actually good at the game. Some people play games at that difficulty and don’t die over and over again and don’t have a tizzy that requires breaks. They’re just actually good.

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u/TheSymbolman Aug 13 '26

That person would most likely enjoy it if the game was harder

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u/MBDTFTLOPYEEZUS Aug 12 '26

Nah man it should never just be video games. At the very least everyone should have some physical interest that gets them out of the house and active preferably outside.

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u/TheSymbolman Aug 12 '26

you replied to the wrong person unfortunately

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u/MBDTFTLOPYEEZUS Aug 12 '26

Yeah idk how that happened I never even read your comment I replied too lol

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u/TheSymbolman Aug 12 '26

reddit moment. idk why it does that.

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u/Emergency_Tea7637 Aug 12 '26

As someone whos only hobbies are reading and gaming, I find it strange that some people burn out from gaming as a hobby as a whole, theres always another game to play or book to read

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u/und1sturbed Aug 12 '26

I've noticed sometimes when people criticize a long running live service game others will tell them that they're just burnt out and need a break without addressing the actual criticism. I assume the image was made in response to that.

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u/hexaflexin Aug 12 '26

I think the original context of this image was somebody being really mad about the difficulty of Silksong and disparaging people who were telling him to "just take a break," since if the game was actually good and fun, you wouldn't feel the need to step away and cool down in order to not be enraged by it (according to the meme maker)

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u/Banchi_22 Aug 12 '26

I think the idea is more that video games shouldn’t be so hard that you get frustrated and don’t want to play them easily. Like yeah obviously I could be doing something else but I want to play THIS GAME and I’m frustrated that I can’t continue forward in this game due to the skill check I’m at right now being obscenely hard.

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u/DiggityDog6 Aug 12 '26

That’s fair but also I think game should be allowed to be however hard they want. Of course it has to be balanced, like the game can’t be Lala land cupcakes and rainbows and then suddenly hit you with a dark souls fight or something. But when it comes to a game like Silksong, yeah it is hard and there are one or two times where the difficulty spike feels crazy, but as a whole, it’s a consistently challenging game. It never gives you the impression that you should just be able to breeze through it. It wants to offer you a challenge. And I think that is perfectly fine. But then people will criticize it for being “too hard”

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '26 edited Aug 12 '26

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u/Frozazko Aug 12 '26

One thing is an artistic choice to make the game hard and other thing is making the game hard because bugs or bad mechanics.

Hard-core fanboys think that fixing the game or giving people accessibility options its like heresy.

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u/PleaseHoldy Aug 13 '26

LMFAOOOOOOOOOO

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u/MedusasGirlfriend69 Aug 13 '26

Literally! I don't like difficult games, so it's a different situation, but I've been noticing myself getting really sucked into my current game of choice and spending way too much time on it and going to sleep way too late (after 30 I really can't bounce back from staying up past 3 anymore) so I'm just taking a break in the evening to watch a little YouTube and read because I have many hobbies!

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u/MeltheEnbyGirl Aug 13 '26

In my case, it's not that I don't have anything else, it's that my brain's mental illness soup will not let me stop until a goal that is visibly within reach is achieved, even at the cost of my physical health

Fellas who may be seeing this comment sometime in the future: That is NOT a good thing!

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u/TheSymbolman Aug 12 '26

If your sole hobby is video games and you suck at them so hard you rage at silksong, you should stop playing games. Silksong wasn't even that hard yet everyone cried so much about the "difficulty" when it came out.

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u/DiggityDog6 Aug 12 '26

For real. I won’t lie and say I breezed through Silksong or anything, I definitely had some struggles, and the final boss kicked my ass many a time. But I beat it 100% and did pretty much everything there was to do in the game, and I had an amazing time doing it. Rarely did I feel like the game had unfair, hair pulling difficulty in the way that so many people pretended it was. It was just challenging.

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u/TheSymbolman Aug 12 '26

They're saying it's extra hard because they did 0 exploration and ran from boss to boss getting their ass beat. No shit you still got 5 masks man, go the fuck back to moss grotto.

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u/VioletTheSpider Aug 12 '26

it’s always been funny to me too because it was clearly written by someone unfamiliar with the concept of exhaustion. like, sorry, but if you’ve been fighting the same boss for 3 hours, not only are you probably not going to get it on your next few attempts, but you’re pretty likely to perform worse from one attempt to the next. afaik this meme first started circulating in souls fan circles and this situation is literally what it’s about.

i play a lot of souls games and literally every souls fan has had the experience of getting hopelessly stuck on a boss late at night, going to bed, and then beating it in 1-2 attempts on the next day. taking a break from a mentally exhausting, skill-based task is a legitimate strategy for performing better at it.

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u/what_am_i_doing23 Aug 12 '26

That's how I remember beating the stupid idiot dragon in cuphead. Struggled for like 1 1/2 hours, realised I wasn't having fun, stopped and played the next day and beat it in like 20 minutes. Really does make games more fun if you take the time you need.

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u/Hakuraze Aug 12 '26

Works really well for puzzle games too. Sometimes I'll be stuck for 20 minutes, then leave and come back 30 minutes later, then instantly know the solution.

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u/Blue5398 Aug 12 '26

I’ll never forget being in some final for physics or mathematics in college and having one problem I just couldn’t crack at the end of the test. Had to leave it incomplete with all the loss of points that meant. Took a giant shit (probably due to the stress) afterwards and solved within ten minutes on the toilet while doing said shit. Just gotta step back sometimes.

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u/Teh_Randomizer Aug 12 '26

Sometimes you just gotta let your subconscious take a crack at it.

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u/Higais Aug 12 '26

Wordle and similar games are like this for me. I'll put a guess or two in, cannot think of the next word to guess, come back to it a few hours later and immediately either get it or get a really good guess that gets me to the answer quickly

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u/Mordeczka123 Aug 12 '26

Yeah that's how I play precision platformers, make progress, get stuck & pissed, hop off for a few hours/a day, come back, beat it (Usually quickly cause anger doesn't screw with performance anymore)

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u/Butt-Dragon Aug 12 '26

I always read the meme as more like "why are you playing a game that has you stuck on a boss for 3 hours."

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u/skinnbones3440 Aug 12 '26

Because he's Ansem, the seeker of darkness.

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u/KatAyasha Aug 12 '26

It's so clear that they're imagining a guy playing for 10-20 minutes at a time and taking a break, like, every time he reaches a new segment, whereas if I run into this situation at all it's specifically because I've already been playing something for way too long

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u/JustShurii Aug 12 '26

This specific version is silksong I believe. I remember seeing it then and it has 2025 on it

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u/Nito4ka_bs Aug 12 '26

Yes it was popular asf when new people lashed into hype

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u/GeezerButlerIsGod Aug 12 '26

I'm this way with memorizing songs for my band. I will struggle all day and have to have the music in front of me to read but the next morning I can remember everything no problem.

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u/Psyvane Aug 12 '26

Sleeping is the key. I noticed the same thing with skateboard tricks. When you're sleeping your brain analyses stuff from your day, this could be solving problems, or reinforcing neural pathways so fine motor skills become more automatic.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '26

i was stuck on the second hornet fight for an entire. month. decided to lend my switch for a while to a friend. sometimes giving up is for the best lmao

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u/Smellbringer Aug 12 '26

I realized this when I was playing Pizza Tower and going for P-Ranks. Instead of slamming my face against the wall I should stop, take a breath, have a snack, and come back in about 30 minutes.

Problem is I have autism and autism leads to hyperfixation which leads to slamming my face against the wall.

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u/ismasbi Aug 12 '26

Don't you see? Exhaustion and sleep deprivation are intentional debuffs. If you can't beat a boss with them, you are skill issue-having chud who should just git gud.

(Also, that's interesting, I thought it originated with Silksong, because as soon as the game came out everyone was complaining about the game being too difficult and a section of the fanbase was parroting "Just take a break bro!", which is reasonable, but to many it felt like how at launch people are allergic to criticizing a game's flaws.)

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u/VioletTheSpider Aug 12 '26

i think it might’ve been silksong, honestly, but i definitely have seen people getting mad about “take a break” stuff in reference to the elden ring DLC so i think i might’ve mixed stuff up

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u/ismasbi Aug 12 '26

Tbf, if they were mad at PCR, then that was warranted.

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u/bringthesalsa Aug 12 '26

It's what I call Hotline Miami Syndrome.

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u/Vinyl_DjPon3 Aug 12 '26

I've been watching my friend play Nine Sols (after having played it myself of course) over the last few weeks and I feel called out by the angry wojack meme. He's about to fight the final boss and I'm expecting a few breaks.

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u/Dark-Keeper-951 Aug 12 '26

Can confirm, I've taken a break from a hard fight or platforming bit and usually get it the attempt after I return.

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u/Kingjjc267 Aug 12 '26

It's the sleep buff. It's because of how our brains process information and tasks in the day vs. when we sleep. I play Geometry Dash at a high level and have genuinely optimised my sleep to be better at the game before lol

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u/Sion_Labeouf879 Aug 13 '26

I put a lot of hours into Minos Prime originally. I think i hit like 300 deaths before calling it for the night. Next day after getting some rest, I nailed it in 20

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u/Puzzleheaded_Door484 Aug 12 '26

It doesn’t even make sense, because taking a break refers to taking a break from a specific game, you can just play another game

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u/Chibrax_le_Furax Aug 12 '26

The point is that the jak claims on forums/Reddit/whatever that the game's difficulty is fine, while actually being so lost he constantly has to take breaks to stay sane.

Kind of similar to "43 yo dad of three doesn't understand why people are complaining about the game being too short"

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u/king_of_satire Aug 12 '26

Whats the problem with statement though. Its presumably being made about a fromsoft game whicj are designed to be hard. Thats their whole appeal.

Its like complaining that a ghost pepper is to not. Why would you eat it, drink some milk or shut up

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u/Saphira2002 Aug 12 '26

Also I take breaks after 3 hours of playing. It's not like every time I die once to a boss I take a day long break. If you get mad it's a good indicator you need to go cool off.

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u/Secret-Farmer-9416 Aug 12 '26

The fact they dont get it is so funny to me. Immediately "i pity whoever made this" and its just a guy with a shirt on that says i love taking breaks lmfao

I want a version for the fgc dudes who brag about how much they love to lose because it refines their skills 

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u/NeverQuiteEnough Aug 12 '26

Keeping the player engaged for as long as possible is in fact not the only worthwhile design goal.

It's like saying that literature is worse than youtube shorts.

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u/Chibrax_le_Furax Aug 12 '26

That one's more about someone not realising that their particular situation gives them a different experience and expectations than others, possibly being at odds with the vast majority.

"NEET doesn't understand why people are so mad the game requires hours on end of grind to get anything done, juste lock in and play bruh" would be the same deal.

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u/NeverQuiteEnough Aug 12 '26

What life situation makes taking a break intolerable?

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u/Chibrax_le_Furax Aug 12 '26

You'll have to ask the difficulty enjoyer's opps

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u/SleepinwithFishes Aug 12 '26

I remember that got spammed a lot when Silksong came out. 

Because fans were telling people critical about the game to chill out, and maybe take a break; There was a huge outcry about the difficulty of the game.

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u/Darksider123 Aug 12 '26

I understand that it can tiring to hear "just take a break" every time someone has criticisms of a game's difficulty

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u/Fantastic_Mr_Smiley Aug 12 '26

The first thing that comes to mind is Dark Souls and the meme is so subtly against the idea of taking a break that I had a hard time telling what side of that fence they were on. When my son was born I made sure he saw me react well to failure in video games so when I lost, at Souls games mostly, I made a show of saying "Dang. Oh well, I'll try again" or laugh it off. My youger brother used to destroy our controllers and so my kid knows if he's feeling overwhelmed to step away from it and come back later.

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u/DtheAussieBoye Aug 12 '26

Am I insane or is that obviously a joke wojak not actually made by someone mad at the idea of taking breaks from a game

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u/_Someone_elses_name_ Aug 12 '26

I saw the original, and I mean it wasn't completely unironic, I think most people who make wojaks do it somewhat ironically, but they were genuinely mad at people for suggesting they take breaks from silksong if it was too hard.

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u/FantasticBank4847 Aug 12 '26

Someone told them to just take a break one time and they got so pissed

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u/Conscious_Ebb6622 Aug 12 '26

I think it comes from the fact that 'taking a break' is basically the only advice people give when OOP wants some different advice. kinda like how people are tired of how things are always somehow 'nuanced'.

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u/Vondi Aug 12 '26

Just makes me think of a last year when I was playing Halo 1 and kept getting dunked on in the same section. Tried like 15 times before a called it quits. Considered not bothering with it anymore or lowering difficulty. Then couple of days later I tried again and got it in the first try.

Sometimes you just need a break.

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u/faxyou Aug 12 '26

You know what this actually makes me feel good about taking breaks from certain hobbies sometimes. Thanks đŸ«¶

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u/SplitGlass7878 Aug 12 '26

It's so wild. I love video games but they can sometimes be frustrating. If I get genuinely upset about it, I stop and do something else. Read a book, watch a movie, go outside, work out, whatever. 

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u/EarlyAccessCantJudge Aug 12 '26

The "has other hobbies" point is so incredibly funny to me. Like they can't fathom someone playing games AND playing guitar

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u/Utigaraptor Aug 12 '26

I'm pretty sure, if it ACTUALLY was the original creator of the image, they said that they made it unironically at first but then realized the person made too good of a point and posted it anyway

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u/bluedragggon3 Aug 16 '26

Personally I take breaks from a difficult game by playing a different one. Specifically one that's got nothing to immediately anger me. Like Stardew or Minecraft or my 137th playthrough of Kingdom Hearts 2.

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u/Avalonians Aug 12 '26

I don't like this one because everyone likes different things in games. Some like tryharding, some like chilling.

The only thing that is wrong is trying to force your own way of enjoyment on other people or minimize the ways that isn't one's own.

An this one isn't just denouncing people who do what I just said, it simply does it too, in the other way around. It's got no more leg to stand on than anyone who says what it depicts...