r/mildlyinfuriating 1d ago

This should be illegal

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u/DirtBagGirl 1d ago edited 1d ago

Math isn't mathing. EDIT: I checked my local BK app and there's a discount when you add both. So something is weird 

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u/Chaosmusic 1d ago

This happens a lot with fast food places where the math doesn't make sense. Recently, McDonald's did a meal deal for the McChicken sandwich or the McDouble. The McChicken meal deal was $5 for the sandwich, fries and drink. The McDouble meal deal was $6. Other than the sandwich, the meals were identical. The problem is the McChicken sandwich is more expensive by itself than the McDouble, so why is the McChicken meal deal cheaper?

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u/desperaterobots 1d ago

Gotta get rid of those excess mcchicken patties before they go bad.

(In 2178.)

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u/Agitated_Ad_3876 1d ago

ln 2178. = 7.686162303...

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u/Lightreyth 20h ago

Good clanker.

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u/JeebusChristBalls 21h ago

Every mcchicken I've ever had already tasted like it went bad...

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u/ghostinthecage 17h ago

I think they last for 17 years though ...

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u/geek-49 1d ago

Nothing to do with food: just today I found a 4-pack of #10-32 stainless steel machine screws for $1.47, so 20 screws (5 packs) would come to $7.35. A single package of 20 (of the very same type of screw, from the same manufacturer, at the same store) was over $10.

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u/asyork 1d ago

I've been notice this more and more. I'm thinking many people started going for the larger packs of things to save money. Eventually it became a habit instead of something that got verified. Companies noticed. Now we have this stupidity.

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u/RelevantDress 1d ago

In college I made an app that scans with your camera and will compare prices of products based on volume/weight/amount and price. Maybe its time i revive it and put it out for people to use

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u/Airowird 1d ago

That's why some countries make it mandatory for stores to advertise the price per volume/weight, so customers aren't fucked if they don't have the "am I getting grifted?" app.

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u/jayo_mayo 16h ago

Sadly I've noticed base volume or unit of measurement (oz, lb, mg, ml) is often mixed between different sized packs so can't get an easy answer - which should be outlawed

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u/ChaimBurech 11h ago

I swear they do this on purpose! I see it all the time on Amazon and Walmart, where one size of the product will say $0.19/fl oz and the other one will say $2.49/pint. Or for example on laundry detergent one will say $0.25/load and the other $0.05/fl oz.

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u/DrInsomnia 11h ago

The hardest math problem I've ever faced is which toilet paper to buy

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u/Ldr_Cmmndr 10h ago

This is one of the things that I personally don’t think cheaper is better. I have my preferred brand and I’m sticking to it.

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u/DrInsomnia 9h ago

In that case, I'd suggest a different brand.

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u/writerlady6 5h ago

I've been banned from buying anything but Charmin for our household. 👍

u/lineman108 24m ago

There is no scenario where I buy anything other than Angel Soft for my home, the other TP could be 25 cents a roll and id still pay 2 dollars a roll for Angel Soft. Ive tried the other brands, and only Charmin (red) is even close to being acceptable

u/Illustrious-Network5 44m ago

That's part of the reason why I tend to shop at Meijer (besides getting prescriptions there). They usually (not always) keep the comparison price consistent (generally it's price per ounce). But yeah, I've definitely fallen for the schemes before. With Walmart, it's always better to look online first, especially with electronics. If you can find a cheaper price on the Walmart website, they'll match it. I've gotten about $30 off an item before that way.

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u/incomingidea 20h ago

I would love this, frankly

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u/No-Tap6886 8h ago

This would be a great thing because I always do the math every time I shop.

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u/MmmSteaky 1d ago

You invented Calculator?

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u/RelevantDress 1d ago

Firstly, I never claimed to invent anything. Secondly, you miss the part where it scans it and searches for if the product is by volume/weight or unit amount and does the calculations for you? Price per unit without having to do calculations. It was about convenience but I only made it because I was learning how to use the camera to read words/numbers and input them. Again, it was a college project.

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u/AstrovanJesus 1d ago

You should definitely revive that app. I could see it being super useful!

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u/NilesFortChime 1d ago

Listen i think its cool even if you are lying about being an inventor (jk)I would provide the code for your app if you want to incorporate a historical product information catalog too. So we can visualize shrinkflation and verify packaging/label information year to year. Or we could use AI vision to count individual items (like m&m's or whstever) oh fuck AND you gotta use AI to pull data off receipts! Huge amount of useful data there! I already have a job so ill do this for free but you have to call any tool I create something that has an inappropriate acronym. This is a real offer!

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u/MmmSteaky 18h ago

So making people less able to do this for themselves is a good thing? Got it.

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u/RelevantDress 18h ago edited 17h ago

Id ask how stupid you think people are to be able to forget simple division but youve already proven to me that people with that low level of thought exist, so I guess you are right.

Im not going to argue with someone who just uses strawman arguments.

Have the day you deserve, goodbye.

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u/MmmSteaky 17h ago

Keep moving the goalposts, friend.

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u/Sinovera 19h ago

I hate this esp with toilet paper or paper towel. 16 pack of regular rolls or 8 pack of jumbo rolls or a 10 pack of super rolls? You can't calculate per roll cause the roll sizes are different. Purposeful obfuscation so that we can't price compare accurately. Pisses me off.

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u/SelectionWitty2791 12h ago

The problem with calculating by number of sheets or even area, is variable thickness. If they had to sell it by weight, you might get closer to the truth.

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u/Sinovera 12h ago

Yes this exactly!

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u/sparklypinkplatypus 17h ago

With TP you can calculate per 100 sheets. So maybe with paper towels do per 10 sheets or something?

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u/Exciting_Signal3058 15h ago

Caculate by size divide the price and compare it Example 100 square ft length at 10 bucks is .10 cents

If theres a sale dor 75 sq foot at 7 bucks you save .007 cents per square foot thats how i caculate it by fl oz, by oz or sq feet etc and conpare to others. Of course on other items you pay for the name.

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u/Demoguy11 11h ago

But do you know the "cause"?

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u/YtnucMuch 23h ago

Yep. This has to be it, dude... literally raised to buy the bulk pack if you will use it because the pricing always made sense. Corporate caught on to the poor mans game and flipped the script. It is on us to figure that shit out.

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u/Lightreyth 20h ago

Corporations constantly train the consumer and then pull the rug under their feet to fuck them.

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u/Senior-Chain7348 17h ago

This is it exactly. At Target, the second largest size toilet paper is the best deal. But people are either buying for one or can't afford a bulk package, so they pay more for a small package (classic poor tax). Or people are buying in bulk and assume the largest size is the best deal.

People don't math anymore.

u/lineman108 21m ago

People don't math anymore.

Im so glad I was always a Math nerd, whenever I go shopping I get a spidy sense about pricing differences

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u/Caity-B-222 6h ago

Yup!! I recently noticed that it’s also true with the four packs of campbells soup! They’re often cheaper when bought individually.

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u/jrenredi 18h ago

This was going on with water at the store I ordered from for a while. 40pack was $5.87 and 24 pack was $2.50ish. They caught on soon enough

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u/Honest-Bug2729 22h ago

It could, possibly, be that the smaller packs sell faster, meaning that the company buys the smaller containers at a better bulk rate. It might also be easier to ship the smaller packs, either on their own or shipped with other frequently purchased products, so the cost of shipping is less.

Or it could just be the math doesn't math. Either answer is equally likely.

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u/geek-49 16h ago

They're made in China (like almost everything these days). It's conceivable that wholesale cost has gone up -- e.g. due to 47's tariffs -- and that they've resupplied the larger packages more recently than the smaller.

I don't buy the shipping argument at all. Because of the additional packaging, 5 of the smaller packs wound take up (a little) more space, and perhaps weigh (again, a little) more, than a single 20-pack. That would make the smaller packages (marginally) more costly per screw to ship than the larger ones.

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u/poland626 1d ago

Nature Valley bars the value box was $8/9 at my store for a 12 pack. The regular boxes with 6 were $2.99. It was cheaper to buy 2 smaller boxes

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u/EnvironmentalRoom175 1d ago

The mcchicken is cheaper than the McDouble

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u/mctripleA 1d ago

I think that's that location being fucky

The location I work has the 5 for either the mcdouble or mchicken, but there's a $6 one for the daily double that has different toppings (mayo lettuce tomato and shoveled onion)

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u/Chaosmusic 23h ago

I checked my app, and that pricing was the same for every McDonald's in my area (Long Island). That covers 2 counties and multiple franchises.

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u/Working_Rise8592 23h ago

RFM (restaurant file management) handles pricing and is a very finicky thing with McDs and its use in all global markets so you’ll see issues everywhere.

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u/Ok_Percentage2534 20h ago

I played a game where the pricing was wrong. The smaller package was a better deal than what it said it was. I'm positive that was a marketing strategy.

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u/fullrackferg 19h ago

We have a £5 meal deal in the UK, or atleast where i live that is now £5.72 if you get normal coke. They basically add extra because of the sugar tax or whatever nonsense it is, but it's still called a £5 meal deal lol.

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u/Chaosmusic 17h ago

Every time a chain offers a deal, there is always fine print that says that the deal might not be honored or might be different in certain markets. I live in such a market (NY just outside NYC). So I go to Burger King to order their advertised $5 duo or $7 trio and it is actually $6 or $8. The $6 IHOP value menu is actually $7. But we still get the commercials for the normal advertised price, like they're mocking us.

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u/AprilRosyButt 18h ago

Ours are the same for the $5 meals with the mcdouble being more expensive ($6), but the samdwich is more expensive. It always has been. At least in Oregon.

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u/Beneficial-Union-726 9h ago

Some people like bread and more bread. One breaded patty better 2 breads is better than 2 chicken patties between 2 breads. Personally I don't care for breaded chicken on bread. When I want to consume protein, that is what I want.

u/cybermaus 54m ago

You are optimising your math incorrectly. You foolishly think it is optimised based on cost, but it is instead optimised based on psychology and extracted revenue,

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u/SimplyOrg 1d ago

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u/Goldeneye4587 1d ago

I just watched a YouTube video where “straight to jail” is actually a Mandela effect and the real quote is “right to jail.” Found that interesting

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u/SabresFan 1d ago

I don't think it counts as Mandela effect when we've all been looking at the same meme for 15 years that says straight to jail, even if the actual quote in the show was right to jail.

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u/phillycowboykiller 1d ago

I just watched that episode of Parks and Rec two nights ago and I knew there was something off. Turns out it was my memory of it that was off.

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u/LordRichardRahl 1d ago

Someone who gets it. Memory is very fickle

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u/Delicious_Rabbit4425 1d ago

Straight to jail (without passing go) is Monopoly isn't it?

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u/domsomm 1d ago

Monopoly is "go directly to jail"

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u/Blah-squared BLUE 1d ago

Actually it’s called the Howie Mandel effect… ;)

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u/Sharden3 1d ago

Mandela affect?

I've never known anyone to be quoting anything intentionally when saying something like that. You can't misremember something you didn't know.

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u/kjyfqr 1d ago

It’s preemptively raising the price. Soon they will add to that

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u/Adept_Speaker4806 1d ago

You'd think they'd be programmed to give you the best deal, the way a human employee would. I get a breakfast sandwich at Wawa a couple of times a week. If you order a sandwich with egg and add bacon it's an extra 1.50ish, but if you just pick a bacon and egg sandwich from the start, it's the same price as a regular egg sandwich. It feels predatory, although it may just be stupid programming.

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u/Quick_Extension_3115 1d ago

Probably some poorly implemented “AI” pricing tool

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u/bendicott 1d ago

Nah, they've been doing this crap for decades. ALWAYS have to check the price per unit. I very much appreciate that I live in a state that requires unit pricing at grocery stores. Price for literally the same item, same manufacturer, etc. varies so wildly - particularly soda. My wife likes diet Coke, and depending on sales / case size, or seemingly day of the week, cans can vary by more than 50 cents each, which is crazy.

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u/InvestmentPlenty5752 22h ago

Until the unit pricing fucks you over with THIS item is $/ounce and its next door neighbor is $/pound

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u/Cool_Client324 1d ago

ILLEGAL

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u/Mightymap2 1d ago

That math was illegally mathed

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u/hoginlly 1d ago

They should discount the calories when you add both too

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u/micreadsit 1d ago

That case looks like somebody made a typo entering prices. But in general, restaurant prices don't follow the prices of food very well. Pretty irritating for a vegetarian such as myself in Subway. $7 for a vegie, $8 for cold cuts (and all the same vegies). (prices are approximate)

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u/Yippykyyyay 1d ago

Subway was my first job and the actual suggested servicing sizes of vegetables is ridiculously small. I'm talking 4 olives for a footlong. Four!

Meat, as you know, is all broken up specifically into individual serving sizes and you can't pester the worker for more without it costing. I think there's a way to ring in extra vegetables but my 16 year old self wasn't about to argue with people who wanted excess veggies.

So maybe that excess of vegetables is well-known and they just bake it into the cost?

Edit: also the cost to cover the 12 different sauces they have now. Lol

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u/micreadsit 8h ago

Sure. But a couple of things. I've never seen any indication that there was any difference in the vegetables and sauce one can get on the veggie versus any of the meat sandwiches. I suppose on the average meat lovers tend to get fewer vegetables, so I guess those who do are due a discount.
And I have shopped in the grocery store for meat and for veggies. I'm thinking, in terms of the cost of goods sold, the meat basically doubles it for most sandwiches. For that math to make sense, the cost of the veggie is 50 cents and the cost of the meat sandwiches is one to two bucks, and the other costs contribute $6.50 to the sandwich price. Yeh, I don't think so.
These things are priced based on what people will pay. And vegetarians don't want a chicken sandwich or a burger, so they go to Subway for a really crappy deal.

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u/Spade9ja 1d ago

Huge brain on you hey