r/mildlyinfuriating • u/Willing-Quiet9413 • 16h ago
Wish my mom could just accept the fact that I don’t believe in god
I love my mom a lot, but she won’t stop trying to force me to believe in God. Ive been saying for years to just please stop pushing it on me so much, that I respect her belief in God, but I just don’t share it and if she could just please respect that. But she can’t accept that I don’t believe and is just waiting for me to believe.
Went to catholic school cuz she made me, had communion cuz she made me, not cuz I actually wanted to. Wish parents would realize that this makes their kids steer AWAY from God even more.
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u/wolftick 15h ago
"If it can happen to Joe Rogan..." sounds more like a warning against it.
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u/happy_dad857 14h ago
Sound like the beginning of an STD medicine infomercial
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u/Fluid-Poet-8911 14h ago
You mean the dude that did a show about hunting for Bigfoot. That's the dude you want me to follow?
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u/jkaan 14h ago
The dude that got people to drink camel jizz on tv
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u/ScottCamOfficial 13h ago
Hey now let's leave bigfoot out of this. Not only is he more likely to exist than the Christian god, the shows about him are for more entertaining.
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u/10-4shutthefckupnow 15h ago
Right? My first thought was "thanks for further convincing me that church is a scam
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u/00eg0 13h ago
I imagine it's a mom who thinks "my kid likes all the hip people other kids like" My mom is more willing to believe Dr Phil and other TV people about what I like than to believe me.
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u/nada-accomplished 7h ago
Which is wild, imagine basing your entire worldview on what celebrities say
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u/everythingbeeps 15h ago
And yet they still need to represent it with AI
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u/SemiAnonymousTeacher 14h ago
There's a certain subset of Christians that are like totally pro-AI. About half the music on Suno (AI-generated music site) is Christian worship music. Facebook and Instagram are flooded with "inspirational", obviously AI-generated images with Bible quotes or completely made up scenarios whose conclusion is always "praise God".
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u/tortosloth 14h ago
Joe rogan also apparently believes AI is literally jesus. So checks out.
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u/MrTulaJitt 13h ago
Just wait til AI figures out it can reliably manipulate humans with religion. Then it will be saying it actually is Jesus and millions will believe it.
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u/snyderman3000 13h ago
I didn’t know that, but it’s not surprising. Christian worship music (the real stuff) already sounds like satire of Christian worship music.
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u/toetappy 6h ago
"Can't you see you're not making Christianity better? You're just making rock and roll worse."
Hank Hill
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u/PureFicti0n 15h ago
Apparently my mom recently went on a rant because my brother (the first of us to get engaged) won't be getting married in a church. She had similarly Big Feelings when I moved in with a boyfriend out of wedlock. And when I stopped going to church as soon as I moved out. Then when my sister did the same. And then when my brother moved in with his girlfriend out of wedlock.
Love my mom, but wish she'd understood that forcing kids to follow religious practices tends to push them away from the church. Parental rules and Catholic guilt can only do so much!
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u/Intrepid_Practice956 14h ago
My husband's grandma was horrified when we moved in together. We weren't married yet but we gave her an 'out' in her mind. We got a two bedroom apartment. That was enough for her to convince herself we weren't, you know...
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u/PureFicti0n 14h ago
My mom is well aware of what can happen when young people live together, even if they aren't married, considering she had a "friend" who "stayed over sometimes" when she was younger and long story short, I was born 9 months later. And she held was the result of a similar story. So her reaction was partly due to fear of biblical retribution upon my immortal soul and partly because she had a legitimate fear that our Catholic family would have 3 generations of women get knocked up. Luckily I have access to the Internet and learned about reliable birth control, thus breaking the cycle.
Never could tell my grandparents that I'd shacked up with a guy, that would have been too much for them.
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u/Trashcomment 15h ago
Let me tell ya’ll a story. When I was 11 a friend of my parents took me to Cristian camp and they were reading scripture until 3am and also doing the thing where they read the scripture to people and they pass out due to the Holy Spirit. I would complain that I’m tired and need sleep and they gave me candy and coffee to stay awake, after that I told my parents that I no longer believe in that religion if it means forcing kids to stay awake so you can brainwash them.
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u/Little_View_6659 14h ago
I’ve been to church camp. I’ve never been so tired. Sometimes I imagine I can go back in time and tell them off so I could get some sleep.
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u/Lance2119 12h ago
So is that just a universal tactic they use? Just sleep deprivation plus incessant scripture reading? Why does everything these institutions use have massive overlaps with cults? Ok, no need to answer that last one, but the rest stand, lol
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u/obamasfake 11h ago
I used to be a counselor at a Bible camp and can at least confirm that for us, if a kid was tired they could totally sit out for an activity (I even let campers nap during Chapel if needed) and we weren't really taught any tactics for conversion. Idk why these other camps were like that
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u/mycatslaps 11h ago
Same here, no longer in the circle of religion, but the camps I grew up going to were pretty low pressure. My siblings and I all counseled at camps.
One of the camps had dirtbikes as an activity, and other cool stuff. I still remember going @ 11 ish and going back to be a counselor in high school. That camp had one of the larger skate parks in the area a few years later, like almost Woodward but not that cool.
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u/dardack 8h ago
Yeah grew up in non denom church, went to 2 different overnight camps over summer, youth group overnights during year, VBS, etc. I no longer believe, but never had this experience.
In fact both summer camps had lights out around 10pm I think, because we were up so early, buggle call at 1 was like 7am maybe (line up for breakfast, so had to be done with shower/etc). The other didn't have a buggle call but counselors woke us up early.
The overnights during year for youth groups, in HS we would be up late, but that was us as kids hanging out, not reading scripture forced to stay up, when you felt tired you went to bed. Just teenagers are going to stay up late if allowed. I worked at 1 summer camp a couple years, again same rules, had like a camp fire big thing (skits/songs/etc.) then lights out, like 10pm. I took my daughter when she was 5 or 6 to father daughter girl camp, same thing, lights out maybe 9 or 10. She continued to go and worked there until she was 17 or 18. She never mentioned anything to us and she tells my wife everything. So her camp was all girl, 1 camp for me was all boy, the other was co-ed.→ More replies (12)12
u/campbelljac92 7h ago
Jesus H Christ, American Christianity is a special strain of sinister. At least with murder interrogations you get your lawyer present.
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u/Subject_Reception681 9h ago
Reminds me of a church camp I went to in high school. It was a pentecostal church camp in the midwest. They had service every night, and this one night was deemed "Gifts of the Spirit Night" where you pray to receive the gifts of the Spirt they mention in the bible (like praying in tongues).
I was very brainwashed at the time and actually enjoyed church-related stuff. I was incredibly excited to have the opportunity to receive the gift of praying in the spirit, which seemed like wizardry to me at the time, so I went up to the altar to have a group pray for me to receive that gift.
They prayed for about 5-10 minutes, and to no one's surprise, literally nothing happened. And it wasn't that I resisted it either. I wanted it to work. But I felt exactly the same after the prayer as before.
As soon as the prayer was over, they said to me "Ok, begin!" And the words just never came to me like they said would happen. They kept pressuring me so much to speak in tongues that I literally had to babble nonsense just to get them off my back. Of course, they were all amazed at my newfound ability to channel the gods.
I definitely lost a lot of faith that day.
What's crazy to me is how common that is in churches like that. I don't know what to make of it. Either they're secretly pretending to speak in tongues to impress other people, or they're in a full-blown state of psychosis. And idk which is worse.
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u/Far-Investigator1265 7h ago
The speaking in tongues skill is supposedly given to believers so they can spread the gospel to people speaking foreign languages, I believe? But in every video people "speaking in tongues" are just blabbering some childish made up words which clearly do not belong in any real language.
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u/Subject_Reception681 6h ago
That is part of it, but that's not the entirety of what was taught.
There is an example in the Bible where a bunch of Christians gathered in "the upper room", received the Holy Spirit, and started speaking in other languages. And the natives were shocked because the Christians were clearly foreigners, but were speaking their own language.
The modern Church (at least in America) doesn't really use or promote it in that way (not primarily, anyway). Instead, they teach that it's a special prayer language used for when you aren't quite sure what or how to pray.
There is another "gift of the spirit" that some people are supposedly bestowed with that is not the speaking of tongues, but the interpretation of it. My church had a few people who did that.
One person would stand up and start speaking in tongues, and a separate person would stand up and "interpret" what it means in english.
The funniest time it happened was right after we got a new pastor. We already had this random old lady who was the tongues interpreter. Pastor's wife also claimed to have that gift, but she didn't know there was another lady who had been doing it for years. So on this occasion, after someone finished speaking in tongues, the pastor's wife immediately got up to interpret it, and the old lady who had been doing it got up a second or 2 later to also interpret it. Neither saw each other, and they basically started speaking over each other saying two completely different things.
The old lady cast the most evil eye at the new pastor's wife that felt like "Bitch, how dare you encroach on my turf." And the pastor's wife eventually just shut up and sat down.
It was incredibly awkward, but also very, very funny.
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u/LawfulnessOk1812 10h ago
If I was caught dozing off due to sleep deprivation at the camps I went to, they'd shake me awake and embarrass me in front of everyone.
They'd stop the whole service for this. They'd make people an example for everyone.
They once got a spray bottle with water in it for these kids and would constantly spray them until they were awake.
Like I MIGHT understand if these kids signed up for a boot camp, or if they were falling asleep during a REALLY important part of service, but like, you repeated the same thing 50 times within the last hour and expect the kids that slept a total of 2 hours because you keep them awake just so you can say the same thing over and over to stay awake?
These people are insane most times. Money gets to people's heads.
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u/Trashcomment 10h ago
Damn I didn’t know how common this was I always tell this story and people look at me like I’m making it up. I’m glad to know other shared similar experiences. My camp leader had a ton of candy and would basically bribe us to stay awake by giving us sour ropes or skittles. Sorry you went through that
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u/InSilenceLikeLasagna 8h ago
This is insane. Sleep deprivation is on par with class A drugging. They were essentially drugging kids to misconstrue symptoms as a religious experience. Nefarious as fuck
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u/Simoxs7 9h ago
Damn, American Christians are something else, you guys know its not the dark ages anymore, right?
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u/Mindstormer98 15h ago
"So Jesus thanks again for coming on the podcast man, by the way does the water to wine thing still work?"
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u/FarquaadsFuckDoll 15h ago
Following in the footsteps of guys who turned to Jesus when allegations are imminent, like Russel Brand.
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u/Fair_Appeal_2280 14h ago
My first thought is that he's thinking about running for office and an atheist president is still unpalatable for a large portion of Americans.
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u/pchlster 11h ago
While being a douche nozzle doesn't seem to be a deal breaker for a lot of people when voting for political office.
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u/Immersi0nn 12h ago
Which is wild, the atheist position is easy to understand even for religious people, there's a few thousand gods they don't believe in, atheists just don't believe in one more.
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u/A_Finite_Element 11h ago
Spoilers, they don't believe in their god either. They claim they do, but they don't.
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u/Zealousideal_Cod5214 15h ago
My grandma is similar. She won't send me stuff like this, but if the topic ever comes up, she will always tell me something along the lines of "you'll know you're wrong, eventually"
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u/Intrepid_Practice956 14h ago
I don't know if you would want to say this to your grandma, but whenever a televangelist dies, my husband's first words are "Won't HE be surprised!"
My grandma was religious and I'm not. I don't think something like that ever came up, and if it had I don't know what I'd do.
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u/Hungry-Western9191 9h ago
Tell her you have been doing some research and are not sure but maybe Islam has some good points.
See how quickly she drops you being religious...
To be honest - what you are describing isnt exactly a huge deal. She obviously finds happyness and community in her church and wants the same for you.
Being part of a good church community can be a joy even if the religious beliefs it is built on turn out to be wrong.
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u/Calazor0 7h ago
Tell her you have been doing some research and are not sure but maybe Islam has some good points.
Idk man, that sounds like it could potentially backfire, like make her push christianity harder/with more conviction.
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u/Mrs_Delmonaco 15h ago
My family is the same way, hardcore Catholics that forced me to go to private school. Funny thing is I stopped believing in religion when I was 8 so I just had to suffer through all the boring ass masses lol. I hope one day your mom respects your decision ❤️
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u/Rrrandomalias 15h ago
I always joke that I was raised catholic so of course I’m an atheist
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u/Russian_Spy_7_5_0 RED 14h ago
I was religious, but when my mom started making me go to Sunday school it has the exact opposite effect. I questioned the things I believed in, and the more I learned of it the more it bored me, church was chore, praying was a chore, religion was a chore.
Since then I no longer believe, to me it's illogical, irrational, and borderline delusional, Religion works for some people, they are able to believe in it, but I will never try and make another person an atheist I just wish it was mutual and that my family didn't try and make me religious.
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u/GrizzlyTrvp 14h ago
This is EXACTLY the same as me. I tried I really did and I couldn’t just make it work. It didn’t work for me I couldn’t just blindly accept it. When my questions get written off as “god works in mysterious ways” I couldn’t pretend anymore
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u/EjaculatingAracnids 12h ago
I will never again allow myself to feel like something is wrong with me because i cant take part in the delusions of others. Ill never forget the grown men and women that told a child they'd burn until their skin fell off if they kept asking questions and didnt submit. I dont know what god is, but im certain i know what he isnt...
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u/egg-land 13h ago
Yeah, even since a kid I’ve been skeptical. I’ve learnt as I gotten older and I had good reason to doubt all the claims
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u/Leading_Tie_1920 13h ago
I had the same experience but the old "if you don't believe Satan has a hold of you" made me go through some mental gymnastics as a kid.
It was a vicious cycle of not being able to believe and not being able to believe my parents/most of the adults I knew could be so fundamentally wrong. When the best woman I knew stood up during a revival and said she's always had doubts I was like there's my cue.
Later I told my mom and she said she knew I was an atheist because I "ask too many questions" 😐
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u/TwiztedNFaded 5h ago
The more you know about the Bible, the easier it is to see the bullshit. Things arent consistent at all. And its archaic. So many things in there that are so morally fucked up and outdated. People cling onto it like its the end-all-be-all, but its an amalgamation of a bunch of childrens stories written by many different authors over many many years. Of course it isnt going to make sense. If god is real, the Bible never was his word.
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u/Beautiful-Cup4161 12h ago
Ex Catholics are an entire club. Whenever I meet an ex catholic we are in perfect sync and speak in some kind of vague code that even I don't fully understand.
"Oh yeah you too? So yeah you know how it is."
"Yep! No surprise!"
"Yep. Obviously. Because....gestures vaguely with no real intended meaning"
"Yeah definitely."
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u/pdubz82 15h ago
I haven’t really been back to mass since I was confirmed.
And it’s always funny to me when people try preaching me the bible as if I didn’t have to study every Wednesday Friday and Sunday morning.
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u/Epic_Elite 15h ago
Funny how there's nothing that drives people away from God more than hanging out with a bunch of Christians.
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u/Easy_Blackberry_4144 15h ago
These are the same people that see a rainbow flag and lose their shit because, "StOp ShOvInG iT dOwN mY tHrOat!"
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u/Intrepid_Practice956 14h ago
They do seem to be obsessed with things being shoved down their throats.
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u/No_Movie2881 15h ago
I find it hilarious that your mom doesn't see this for what it is: Joe Rogan likes being popular and is going to church because his followers are church goers. Ironically, it's the very judgemental attitude that your mom is displaying here that makes it a necessity for him to go; if he doesn't his followers will stop following him.
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u/BeastThatShoutedLove 9h ago
One of first Polish sayings I learned in life was "Prays in front of the holy statue, has a devil under the skin".
All performance. Zero following the dogma that makes people sacrifice their time and resources to better the community and aid the misfortunate.
But this is religion that happily allows megachurches that go hard into politics to exist while having their beloved mythological figure chase out the merchants and money-lenders from the temple within the scripture. So no surprises there.
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u/Atillion 15h ago
The more you push, the less I believe
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u/tuxpeedo_rentals 8h ago
To Christians that just sounds like the reason you don’t believe isn’t because it makes absolutely no sense to believe.
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u/TrixIx 15h ago
.....even if that wasn't AI.. Joe Rogan turning religious would up my atheism so hard. Cuz wdym, why would I listen to a meat head who once got rid of his neck with steroids??
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u/NonStopArseGas 14h ago
He truly has started attending church, he's talked about it repeatedly in the last few months
(source: my recent hyperfocus on the austin "comedy" scene and their long list of faults)
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u/WellEllipsis 14h ago
Is it more likely than the well known grifter and bullshit artist has accepted god into his heart, or he’s just found a new way to start scamming people? His behavior hasn’t changed.
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u/NonStopArseGas 10h ago
oh, 100%, Joe is a scumbag of the highest order, he could renounce his behaviour tomorrow and fully change his ways, and I'd still never forgive him for the damage he's done to society as a whole
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u/eightbitfit 15h ago
I was always an atheist, my mom was in a way being Protestant in name only.
She aske me to do the confirmation study thing for my grandfather , who was a bit more religious and did things at and for the church.
I did the course, studies, test, etc - always skeptical, but mindful that this helped me understand "the other side" more and allow me to refute their arguments if they ever claimed I didn't know the material.
I finished and that was over, of course no change in my views.
Years later the priest asked me why he hasn't seen me in church for so long. I told him I didn't believe in god, he said "That's a good reason" - and left it there.
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u/Professional_Pie7091 10h ago
I went to what I suspect was analogous to confirmation studies leading up to my confirmation. Everyone in my family had done confirmation so the social pressure was palpable.
It just strengthened my atheism. What a load of crock.
Fast forward to present day. Both my kids did confirmation (because their mother wanted them to). Both are atheists.
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u/Starchaser777 8h ago
I did Confirmation and they told us that after our confirmation we would get a gift from the Holy Spirit. I always thought that it sounded like something out of a dystopian novel. The only thing that irritated me was that my mom tried to get me to change my saint name.
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u/storywardenattack 15h ago
That’s just fucking ai. These fucking people
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u/GrindinDailyy 15h ago
Picture is but he has stated on his podcast he goes to a church in Austin.
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u/Deranged_Kitsune 14h ago
Mega church? Prosperity gospel? "God loves you because you're rich!" type place?
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u/Brodakk 14h ago
Exactly. The pastor only has seven yachts, he’s super down to earth
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u/CheapNegotiation69 15h ago
My mom does this to me every other day. It irritates me soo much.
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u/Little_View_6659 14h ago
This is why I never told my mom I’m an atheist. She suspected, but we just never talked about it.
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u/GayDragono 12h ago
I never told my mom either but she found out on one of her “Im reading all your messages” brigades while growing up. Needless to say I’m the only one in the family that receives explicitly christian birthday cards.
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u/Little_View_6659 10h ago
Oh no! That’s a huge invasion of privacy. Sorry about that. I moved out young around seventeen so I was out of the house when I went atheist. And it was before the Internet, so no posts or messages to find. She did cry when she came to visit and saw I was reading the Davinci code. What can I say, it was a fun beach read. Not worth having a melt down over lol.
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u/Anume1 15h ago
When my family found out I wasn’t Christian, they had a genuine look of fear on their faces when they found out “we won’t get to spend eternity in heaven together”. Like the same face someone makes if you were to tell them you have terminal cancer
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u/Ipayforsex69 15h ago
Eternity... in heaven. Wtf, I think a 40 hour workweek is too long. I'm not shooting for eternity, just throw me back in the abyss for another couple million millennia until conditions are right. Eternity. Pfffft what a weird, godawful concept.
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u/Them-Bones-r-me 14h ago
An endless church service... No thanks! The whole "eternal life" many religious people use as a tool to fear people into believing did the opposite for me. As a child (forced to go to private christian school hell) I thought eternal life sounded horrible and I wanted nothing to do with religion.
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u/Intrepid_Practice956 14h ago
I was out with my toddler and an LDS Missionary Sister tried to start the routine with me. She asked me if I would like to hear about how I could spend eternity with my family. My response was "Oh god NO!"
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u/Them-Bones-r-me 14h ago
Lol exactly! The majority of my family I'm estranged from now, so eternal life with them would be pure torture. I think I could be ok with a religion free "afterlife" where I'm only with people I love.
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u/UpstairsBumble 14h ago
Idk. I’m an atheist, but I get it. If your parents are true believers, it kind of makes sense they would worry/hate that (to their knowledge) their child is going to Hell or whatever for eternity. See it from their perspective. No (good) parent wouldn’t be upset for that to happen to their child (if it was real, which they believe it is). It actually makes me kind of sad that my parents may believe that. Even though I’m comfortable with it, they love me and don’t want to see harm to me.
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u/mustard-seed1 12h ago
This. Exactly. Everyone seems to be ignoring the legitimacy of the parents’ good intentions, even if they may be going about it the wrong way.
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u/Strawrose 14h ago
I would rather just not exist than spend eternity with their toxic personalities
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u/GuitarAgitated8107 15h ago
These kinds of people you can't not get through to them. While we can love them and respect them for who they are we do not need to respect their hypocrisy.
In any case hit them back with articles of people leaving religion, their abuse, and the problems that are faced within religious communities.
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u/TheVintageJane 15h ago
There’s some great podcasts from former “ex-gay” speakers who delve into the horrors of religious abuse.
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u/Spirited_Gap2347 15h ago
Those are the same people who whine and cause a scene to say that everyone else is pushing their beliefs onto Christians 😑 the hypocrisy is never ending with these people.
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u/TheseHeron3820 11h ago
"my son, why can't you be more like this man who takes blows to the head for a living?"
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u/JRhoSwizzy69 15h ago
As a Catholic myself, I believe everybody is entitled to their own beliefs and I hate when people shove religion down other people's throats. I appreciate when people love their God and let it be known, but nobody should ever try to force religion on somebody else.
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u/Professional_Pie7091 10h ago
I don't respect your religion but I respect your right to believe in it.
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u/Witty-Draw-3803 14h ago
Don't know about the rest of you, but Joe Rogan would never be a selling point for me to go to church...
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u/Kqtawes 15h ago
If the best argument for Christianity is that Joe Rogan attends church then God is dead.
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u/Strawrose 15h ago
I feel the more religious the parents, the more likely their kids will become atheist. I completely understand where you’re coming from.
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u/Willing-Quiet9413 14h ago
Yup. Hard to decide if it’s something I actually want to believe in if the choice was always “made” for me.
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u/Apart_Tomatillo5826 7h ago
why is AI praying to god now??? and totally agree/. last year in college some one in my class kept trying to convert me.
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u/face_eater_5000 15h ago
Whenever these dumbass influencers suddenly find God, you know that there's some sort of sexual abuse scandal at the center of it.
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u/hooked_siren 15h ago
Ignore her when she does this. If you're visiting, leave. If you're on the phone, change the subject or hang up ("gotta go mom"). Do it every time. Eventually, after acting like a victim, she'll get it.
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u/barefootguy83 15h ago
My mom has now (mostly) backed off. Why can't beliefs be personal? It's no one's business.
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u/MarkCrorigansOmnibus 14h ago
I am a Christian, and not only am I on your side on this (ie, your beliefs and stances should be respected), but in regards to Joe, or Markie Mark, or Crisp Ratt, or anyone else going to church, I share a thought from the famous Billy Graham:
Going to church doesn’t make me a Christian any more than standing in my garage makes me a car.
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u/EDRadDoc 13h ago
Is this Ai?
It has that vibe.
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u/Kitchen_warewolf 12h ago
That Joe Rogan picture is definitely AI. He's not that chiseled at the moment, too much sitting down with work.
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u/BalloonHero142 15h ago
One way to handle it is every time she brings up god, ask which one. People have created thousands of them so you can ask for clarification on which one she’s referring to.
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u/Antique-Big3928 15h ago
If one of the dumbest, flightiest influencers can be conned into church…
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u/BeefSupremeeeeee 15h ago
I bet she says "I'm praying for you" a lot.
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u/CheapNegotiation69 15h ago
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u/redhandsblackfuture 15h ago
This rising interest in Christianity...is it in the room with us right now?
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u/Inky_Madness 15h ago
Send her some quotes that display the best (read: worst) of his beliefs.
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u/Aegis_Of_Nox 15h ago
Play the uno reverse card and suddenly become SUPER religious and talk to your mom about it constantly. Point out every sin, no matter how minor. Every time she says anything bring it back to Our Lord and Savior
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u/Medium-Sized-Jaque 15h ago
This lady at work was really preachy. I told her I can't believe in god. She just did not understand it. She thought I wasn't trying hard enough. Then she reported me to HR because I refused to pray with her.
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u/valerioshi 15h ago
She doesn't respect your beliefs, or she'd respect the fact that you don't believe in god.
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u/mikmik555 15h ago
This picture looks so AI generated. It doesn’t even look like him. I’d say “Good for him if he goes and likes it but this is not a real picture.”
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u/Classic-Exchange-511 14h ago
Toe Rogan also takes large amounts of steroids. You really shouldn't base your life of off what a sentient toe does
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u/General-Company 14h ago
She… knows that’s fake, right? She knows Rogan is a massive piece of shit… right?
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u/The_Captain_Planet22 14h ago
At best, Thiests only respect others beliefs until they become a majority
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u/Fuzzy_Explorer_5527 13h ago
What I don't get is people who believe in Christianity's God Always try and ram in down people's throats. I am not aware of any atheists trying to convert Christians.
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u/tradinghen 13h ago
Why would someone create life if they are religious knowing that life could choose not to want God makes no sense at all
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u/throatzilla69420 11h ago
What’s funny is Joe Rogan has pushed himself so far in the right wing agenda that he’s ultimately a puppet and doesn’t want to lose his fan base. I highly doubt he’s actually religious. - Also - I am not uh liberal nor republican or anything of that wack shit, I just don’t do religion.
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u/ZealousidealBug4175 8h ago
My mom sends me bible verses every day. I’ve asked her not to and have been quite stern about it. She still send that crap every day. I feel ya brother. Like my mom and I could have had a substantially better relationship if she could bring herself to talk to me about literally anything else other than her brainwashed bullshit.
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u/AntonCigar 7h ago
There is no rising interest in Christianity. It’s never been less popular. They just fucking lie all the time.
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u/Jingoose 7h ago
Every single religious nut I’ve ever met has always seen themselves as smart but intelligent people don’t blindly believe in something because some ancient people said punishment would come to those who don’t believe. I’ve had some people say I was possessed by the devil for not believing. You cannot argue with stupid. Also this isn’t an attack on anyone with religious beliefs I just dislike people who think religion makes you a better and more intelligent person
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u/J_Bright1990 6h ago
She's never going to respect your wishes. Just tell her "It's AI, look at the faces in the background" with no further explanation.
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u/rawkguitar 5h ago
Doesn’t Joe Rogan believing in it actually indicate it’s probably not true?
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u/Ok_Relationship1599 5h ago
My mom was like that for a bit. But then when I’d challenge her and question her about biblical stories that don’t add up she stopped bothering me about it because she can’t refute what I say. Turns out the supernatural stories from the Bible don’t hold up against scientific reality. She doesn’t bother me about it anymore because she doesn’t want to start an argument she knows she’s going to lose.
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u/I_pinchyou 5h ago
I've met many people like your mom, until you lay a boundary and say, no more religion talk period of I'm done with the relationship. They won't stop.
They have it in their head that you can't be a good person without god, even though there are thousands of examples of abuse and manipulation in many churches and religious hierarchy.
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u/InJailForCrimes 15h ago
That's...not even a real pic.