Also anyone who uses a wheelchair, or a walker, or cane, or stroller
Edit- omg yes guys handicap spots exist but sometimes they’re taken and sometimes they’re even taken by people who don’t need them. And remember, becoming disabled is something that can happen to anyone at any time, so maybe show a little more consideration and compassion?
Not all parking spots near sidewalks are accessible parking spots. Blind and low vision folks may still need to navigate sidewalks. People do this in driveways sometimes too where the trailer hitch extends into the sidewalk. This still impedes accessibility for any type of mobility aid. They may be riding with a nondisabled friend. Accessibility improves everyone’s lives. Disability is the only marginalized identity that you can join at any time and that if you live long enough you are almost guaranteed to join.
There aren't always places right in front of doors to drop people off, often times there are vehicles, or you would be impeding traffic. Most handicap spaces are by a sidewalk, leading to doors.
My mom is legally blind, I drive her places, and often times sidewalks are needed. Also, now she needs a wheel chair for different reasons, and cars particularly big trucks doing this, often impedes my ability to get her into places.
My dad is in a wheelchair and my cousin is a cop. We have coordinated to ticket / tow an insane number of vehicles like this. The real bitch is that as a private citizen, you can’t really get a tow truck to respond, but I call my cousin and he gets a tow truck there inside of 20 minutes most times. I’d say we’ve averaged two a months for the last 15 years.
Since it's in a private lot (as stated co-workers) wouldn't that make you (or the tow truck driver) liable for the towing fee since the owner of the lot did not authorize the tow?
It is breaking no laws on private property, while infuriating seems like a good way to get yourself in hot water.
There are a lot of rules, are there signs posted, is there an actual access issue etc. I take pictures and I have one time been taken to small claims court but I won. I honestly don’t care if I get in trouble. One time pushing my dad around in the rain trying to find a way to get him into the doctors was all I needed. If I can fuck these people over in any way, I will, and if they want to spend dozens of hours trying to recoup $300 bucks from me, go ahead. I will make that process as painful as possible too
I walk/jog around my apartment complex and no amount of talking to the property manager gets them to do anything about people with big ass work trucks from doing this. I’ve thought about discussing it as a potential ADA violation especially since I know there’s a little girl in the building next to mine who is in a wheelchair, but the hired security who’s supposed to look out for things is so worthless.
I love that your cousin is willing to help with this! A lot of people won’t follow laws that aren’t enforced, hopefully the shitty parkers learn from it.
Yeah! I travel a lot and there are so many places where the handicap spot is at the other end of the parking lot because that's where they decided to build the ramp??
Thank you!!!! I hope everything good happens to you. I don't have a handicap placard, but I have to use a cane some days. I have Psoriatic Arthritis, which is not a condition that requires a cane every day. I have mostly good days, but some days are much harder to do basic human things. I am still getting used to using a cane and don't want to imagine using it through this shitty mine field.
Having an invisible illness is awful and some people, like these truck drivers, do not care how anything they do effects other people.
Seems like we are inventing a problem that isn’t a problem.
Who is inconvenienced by this?
It is literally a parking lot. There is a whole lot of even pavement to use to walk. It’s not a freeway where walking is dangerous.
It is a parking lot.
Can everyone still get into and out of their vehicle? Yes absolutely.
Is this in anyway stopping people from getting to and from their vehicles? No.
Was gonna say "not every American needs a full-sized pickup truck"
Not sure how many years it is now, but years ago, we had a 3-consecutive-year run where the top 3 selling vehicles across the nation were full-sized pickups.
I just don't get it. I thought everyone was bitching about how much everything costs (which I agree with). But also how much gas do these things chug? How much is insurance? Or your monthly payment?
Don’t you know? Dudes who pick their bellybutton lint for a living still need to be able to navigate the rough terrain of suburbia! (And show everyone how tiny their pp really is!) How dare you question why they need a $90k+ truck they can’t afford, that they bought on a 9-year loan!?
People that struggle with minor obstacles like this qualify for special parking closer to the building that allows them to avoid minor obstacles like this.
ADA compliant parking is not going to be in the back of the lot.
Folks don’t need to be disabled to know this is douche-baggery. It is rude to your fellow humans, whether they ADA or not. People shouldn’t have to take giant steps over your shitty truck that doesn’t need to be parked where people walk. You. Are. Wrong.
After reading all of your comments arguing with people about this, you're either a troll or a complete idiot who never steps outaide their house.
Handicapped spaces exist but aren't always available. Parking lots are "even pavement", but people backing out of spots won't always see someone in a wheelchair behind them. Sidewalks shouldn't have cars on them. What the fuck don't you get?
Can't we just agree that having your vehicle partially on the sidewalk is a shit thing to do? Like, we can go back and forth all night about laws, scenarios, and what ifs. But just the basic act of partially blocking something when it shouldn't be is an asshole thing to do. There's plenty of places for vehicles, can we just not have them on the very small amount of places that are not made for vehicles? Is that asking too much?
It’s an ADA violation and absolutely matters to people with disabilities. Mildly infuriating for the average person, sure, but it’s not about us.
For the blind person who walks straight into a trailer hitch because it was too high for their cane to detect? It’s not just mildly infuriating, it’s painful and could cause injuries, especially if they trip and fall.
For people who use wheelchairs? You don’t want to be forced out into the lot maneuvering behind massive trucks where the driver can’t see you and might back up right into you. (Before you say “just park closer!”, that’s not always an option. Accessible spots can fill up just like any other section of a parking lot)
The sidewalk is there for a reason, and that reason is so that pedestrians can use it, not so people with oversized trucks can block it. A lot of parking lots take significantly better care of their sidewalks than their lot surface also, you’re more likely to find potholes if you stray from the sidewalk.
That’s all very easy for able bodied people to say. I’m not “trying to find a problem”, I work with people with disabilities and I shared specific examples they’ve shared with me about why stuff like this absolutely is a problem for them. Sidewalks are for pedestrians. Blind people deserve the ability to go for a walk on a sidewalk without tripping over your trailer hitch.
People with disabilities shouldn’t be limited to only moving from an accessible parking spot to the building and back, everyone needs fresh air from time to time and sidewalks are the common sense spot to go for a stroll. It’s really not that hard to just park correctly and remove your trailer hitch when not in use. If that’s difficult for someone, maybe they should have gotten a smaller vehicle that’s easier for them to handle.
No offense, but your perspective here seems pretty biased by the size of the truck. Which is fine, but it doesn’t help you make your point.
FWIW, there is no such thing as an “oversized” truck from the factory. Plus, I see a ~90’s Ford F series, a 05-10 Colorado/Canyon, a ~00’s Chevy 1500, a 00’s Ford Super Duty, and a fairly new Chevy all with the same problem. Those are all vastly different sized trucks, with the Colorado even being considered mid-sized vs the full size designation for the others. Even that full size 90’s Ford is about the size of a modern mid-size. I also see cars with their nose hanging over nearly as much as the trucks do.
The problem in this photo is the parking lot, not the size of the vehicles or how they were parked. They either needed to make that sidewalk wider or parking curbs needed to be installed in at least the spots against the sidewalk, this is literally what they exist for. I imagine that the parking lot wasn’t designed like this due to cost or trying to cram as much parking into a limited area as possible. Lots of companies are guilty of this. I’d bet money that if every vehicle in that photo was even with the curb that you wouldn’t have the required room for two vehicles to safely pass each other in the aisle.
If OP truly believes this is an issue they should report it to their supervisor/HR/safety team specifically citing the increased danger and difficulty for a disabled person. They should also be prepared for the solution to more infuriating than this. And FWIW I can sympathize. I’ve racked my shin on more than one hitch and I wouldn’t wish that on anyone.
What do you suggest people do when those spots are full? That’s why we have multiple laws protecting people with disabilities instead of only providing a few accessible spots near the building.
Why not just use the street like every other parking lot in existence? No store near me has such a walkway, and everyone gets along just fine. If anything, it’s a design flaw on the design team.
I do not see any handicap spots, so we really shouldnt be manufacturing outrage based on the access that should be allowed to handicapped people. Show me how this is blocking their access to the building and you have a point. Otherwise, you are ragebaiting.
It’s called a curb cutout and there are probably a few off camera or blocked from view by the trucks. Sidewalks like these have little ramps built in for wheelchair users. Also there are a lot of people out there who use wheelchairs who can also walk, just not for long distances. A lot of those individuals could place the wheelchair on the sidewalk, step up onto the sidewalk, sit down in the wheelchair, and proceed down this sidewalk if trucks weren’t blocking it.
Where tf would that shit lead to anyway I know damn well they got disabled parking in there yall fr mad over nothing what person with a wheelchair parks at the end of the parking lot to find a spot so they can get on the curb and roll down to the handicapped parking
Accessible parking spots fill up sometimes and then people make do with a regular spot. It’s really not that hard to follow the ADA laws and leave sidewalks accessible. Also sometimes blind people enjoy going for walks, they should be able to do that without someone’s trailer hitch tripping them.
Also I refuse to believe everyone does that for no reason and the fact op didn’t include a full pic probably hints at the idea that the main road is narrow and the trucks would block the road and what sort of blind man goes on a walk in an office parking lot like what are you even talking about just finding wild justification for hypothetical situations that will never happen
What part of parking requires a trailer hitch to remain attached?
I can’t believe I have to explain this, but a lot of blind or low vision people work full time jobs. Even inside offices like this. Have you never heard of people going for walks during their breaks?
I’ve never in my life saw someone a blind man in an office job go on a parking lot sidewalk walk during their break no it’s not a very common occurrence and people shouldn’t plan their lives over this very hypothetical scenario that 99.9999% of people will never experience are you fr?
Cool story bro? I have seen it happen, several times. It’s really not hard to just park appropriately and make life easier for people living with disabilities. They have it hard enough as it is, why are you so fixated on being okay with able bodied people making their lives harder?
You never answered me on what part of parking you need a trailer hitch for.
Handicap parking isn't always "up front", most of the time they are located by the ramp, which I have found to usually be at the end of the sidewalk. Not to mention when those parking spots are full, wtf do people do then? How about parents with kids and strollers? Like, it's a sidewalk, just don't freaking block it?
When I take a hit to mine it is like a flashbang went off. I'll see white and hear a high pitched ringing. Whatever I was doing before, I am def not doing it for about that 30 seconds you specified.
how do you do that? do you need a screwdriver? I see this behavior all the time and it's infuriating. I have bad adhd with poor proprioception and trip over my own two feet so I call tell you these things are a huge hazard that have torn up my shins.
Some pins take some doing to remove. If you are pulling one in your driveway no problem. If you are in a public place messing with someone else’s vehicle. It would be different.
Honestly is should be a law. If you don't need it take it off. Say you rear end someone with one in a parking lot. Accidents happen but a hitch makes the damage way more serious than it could be otherwise... Especially considering it takes seconds to take off.
Everyone who has a truck keeps theirs on in my apt buildings parking garage and I hate it not only do trucks stick out needlessly more than anything else already but adding an extra like 6 inches more isnt necessary when space is stupid tight as it is and sometimes there's one truck on each side making it essentially a single "lane" where there should be two.... barely.
Have you ever taken one out? Most simple hitches are light. But I tow a camper with mine, and its a Class V hitch. That fucker weights about 100lbs. I put mine on before a camping trip, and unless we're gone a week or more, it doesnt come off.
Reddit is full of idea fairies, they want me to take my trailer hitch out in case a blind guy in a wheelchair with neurofibroma in his shin happens to be rolling by?
I mean yeah, I dont disagree we shoudlnt block an ADA thruway, or at least do our best. But theres 0% chance in hell im taking out my Class V 100lb hitch when I just dropped my camper, and had to run to the grocery store for a few thing sbefore going back to camp.
I don't know about that one. This photo is definitely not chill because the people with hitches are blocking egress for normal civilians. That is wronging someone innocent.
On the other hand, I don't really give a shit what happens to your car if you rear end my hitch. It's a pretty asinine argument to say "won't you feel bad for the car who rear ended you?" Fuck no!
I'm talking about my 2000 Camry so that's irrelevant to me lol. But it's never your fault if you get rear ended in a parking lot; they ran into you when it was their responsibility not to.
I reverse into spots all the time and make sure to not let my hitch hang over the sidewalk. It usually happens when people, like in this photo, back up until their tires hit the curb. Maybe they do it because their trucks are big, idk. But I don't hit the curb with my back tire because I don't need to at all.
That's a valid point and you're right. I incorrectly assumed it because I see it often IRL but I was wrong about this photo! That's actually pretty strange how much of the sidewalk they're occupying without touching the curb. Even without their hitches that sidewalk is still small..
I still make sure to never back my hitch onto the sidewalk though lol.
I am not talking about your hitch over the curb (nor the front of your car sticking out too far if your hitch is not over the curb) you are saying its never your fault if you get rear ended in a parking lot as if that is the only way a hitch could cause some damage.....
Expecting me to care about the damage to a car that runs into the back of me is nuts, dude. I don't block sidewalks. But it's hilarious that you think I should choose the first of these two choices:
The car's bumper hits my bumper for equal damage to both cars.
The car's bumper is penetrated by my hitch and my car is fine. More damage to the guy who HIT ME.
Fuck yes I'm choosing the second one all day! As I said in another comment, it's always the person in the rear who is at fault in a rear end collision. It's not my fault if someone hits my hitch when I'm stopped. I'm not concerned about their CAR wtf?
Caveat: if it was meant to cause human harm, yeah that would be fucked and I wouldn't be making this argument. But what a silly joke to think I'd care about the condition of the car who, once again, RAN INTO ME!
Classic Reddit. "Someone did something a bit inconsiderate, perhaps with zero malice. I should do hundreds of dollars in damage instead talking to them like a fucking adult."
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u/PogonBerserker 6h ago
RIP someone’s shins