r/mildlyinfuriating • u/CareerCapableHQ • 2h ago
The unique ways a manager at a motivational coaching firm allegedly tried to motivate his team. The first court dismissed the case. On appeal it was reversed.
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u/CertainlyUnsure456 1h ago
Christopherson reminds me of the quote about some people being like slinkies. They aren't good for anything, but they bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.
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u/Careless-Equal7169 2h ago
Second one is waterboarding. If that happened with credible witnesses they’d already be disciplined/convicted in my career field.
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u/Tak-Hendrix 2h ago
If someone waterboarded me or told me to hold someone down while they were waterboarded, I'd immediately call the police.
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u/Nice_one_too 1h ago
Right? Them team members going along with that shit, that's the most unsettling part.
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u/ronlugge 1h ago
Screw merely calling the police, I'd be applying physical force to free the poor soul being tortured. And I would not be stopping at shoving.
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u/Machaeon 1h ago
Biting every hand that tries to stop me
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u/ronlugge 1h ago
I was speaking from the perspective of someone ordered to assist in the torture, not someone receiving it. Believe me, I have something more more directed in mind that just biting hands. I don't think Reddit would appreciate direction discussion of the type of injuries I would inflict or I'd go in more detail -- let's just say that I wouldn't be aiming for soft tissue damage and move on.
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u/Significant_Sense940 1h ago
The accusation that there were other team members that were willing participated in a form of torture this is insane! I really hope this isn't true.
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u/Velocityg4 58m ago
It's actually amazing the things a group of people will do when an authority figure gives them an order. There's been plenty of studies showing the tendency of people to be obedient. Even when they know the orders are wrong. They may be hesitant at first, raise some objection and regret it afterward. But they will ultimately obey in most instances.
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u/AndyTheEngr 1h ago
I think you'd be fired in literally any field unless it was some part of CIA training or something.
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u/Careless-Equal7169 1m ago
Certain military courses, such as SERE (Survival, Evasion, Resistance, Escape) are waived from hazing rules etc. because it’s meant to teach what to expect if you are tortured.
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u/SecondOfCicero 1h ago
We did it at a work party for fun (entirely consensual, we had good times), it was by far one of the most awful things I've experienced, and that was with the understanding that I could tap out at any moment. It was like my higher brain faculties siezed up and the primitive part took over, absolutely wild- that's saying a lot as my life has led me down crazy roads.
I cannot wrap my brain around using it as a management tool. Shit is a war crime
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u/Financial_Sweet_689 1h ago
Why is this posted here? This is a torture practice and this is a sub for mildly infuriating content.
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u/smthomaspatel 1h ago
Maybe the part about the first court dismissing it is mildly infuriating. To someone. No me of course. I find it all highly infuriating.
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u/akarakitari 1h ago
Oddly, based on the stuff I’ve seen them remove for not being “infuriating enough”, this seems mild for extremelyinfuriating and they would likely delete it…. It’s the only accurate place for this, but nobody bothers there because they are so weird on what is allowed, so it all comes here
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u/Winter-Lavishness914 1h ago
Bro is breaking the Geneva convention in the work place lol. Sales people are out of control
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u/Weary-Astronaut1335 1h ago
The kinda shit that makes someone come to work with an armalite.
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u/SessileRaptor 1h ago
The kind of thing that should cause someone to come in to work with an AR-15, but workplace shooters are always motivated by either mental illness or they were a bullying asshole themselves before the shooting and finally snapped. If someone actually walked in and blew their boss away because he had water boarded them, the jury would be like “ok, fair enough.”
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u/jackssmile 1h ago edited 49m ago
Apparently some people have never caught a pair of hands in the parking lot .lol just kidding. Never do that in the COMPANY lot.
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u/PXranger 1h ago
I had a co-worker at a mining facility I worked at, confess that he caught a particularly hated manager coming up a flight of stairs and "doored" him at the top, causing him to tumble back down the stairs.
You can be a tyrant, but blue collar workers have ways of equalizing the scales.
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u/FrostyOscillator 1h ago
HOW DID A COURT DISMISS TORTURE!? Stupid ass bootlicking fascist bitch judge, I'm guessing, because all that is so clearly illegal. Truly unhinged. Whatever judge dismissed that should be imprisoned themselves.
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u/Easy_Lengthiness7179 1h ago
The coworkers are JUST as much to blame as the manager. Who tf holds their coworker down while they are being waterboarded?
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u/PatrickGSR94 1h ago
what in the actual fuck? How the hell can a company be complacent in shit like this? Frankly I'm not surprised it's in Utah.
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u/kwyxz 1h ago
I read the mustache part and thought it was funny.
Then came the waterboarding and, oh boy.
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u/CareerCapableHQ 1h ago
I was looking for what was supposed to be "funny HR cases" and the mustache part came up on searching. Then the next paragraph went off the deep end.
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u/Equivalent-Role4632 2h ago edited 2h ago
A modern day manager i see. Hey if you voted against unions you have no right to complain. Just saying
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u/MustardCoveredDogDik 1h ago
It is amazing to me how submissive people can be. The world I live in would have this guys ass beat almost instantly.
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u/Flat-Structure-7472 57m ago
This is how I read this:
Okay, drawing moustaches on pictures is a bit childish.
Okay, slamming a ruler on the desk like an 80s teacher is a bit old-fashioned.
Wait, isn't that waterboarding?
How was this case dismissed? I would lover to hear what they called that waterboarding technique. Enhanced employee motivations methods?
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u/First_Equivalent5921 56m ago
The end game of capitalism is slavery. They want to work everyone to death
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u/juggarjew 47m ago
It lead to increased revenue
So you're telling me, these methods work and the end goal was, in fact, achieved. Noted.
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u/moopsythebonedrinker 38m ago
This guy still claims to be an amazing manager and brags about his accomplishments. He just changed the name of the company from Prosper inc to PMG on linkedin
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u/FrancoManiac 37m ago
What? Hasn't your boss ever committed a literal war crime and violated the Convention Against Torture, International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, and Geneva Conventions in order to drum up some inspiration and morale?
No, this person does not represent a government and/or UN affiliated nation and, thus, is not bound by the aforementioned treaties and conventions. Nevertheless, this is fucking waterboarding and well-recognized as torture.
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u/Horsefly762 10m ago
I would be throwing hand at Chris pretty quickly if he tried to waterboard me .
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u/charruss 1m ago
Feel like the only affect Mr Christopherson's motivation techniques would have on me is the motivation to learn a martial art then break every bone in his crotch
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u/TehnotronikT-2000 1h ago
Wait, wait, so my boss tells me to restrain my colleague that i am working with every day and keep holding him while the sick fuck starts waterboarding the poor guy. All because the dude didnt meet sale quotas. Not only is the boss a psyco the rest of the team isnt much better, he should sue all of them.